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	Comments on: NASA reconfiguring future SLS planning	</title>
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		By: Michael G.Gallagher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael G.Gallagher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 02:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[May it blow up during it&#039;s first launch!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May it blow up during it&#8217;s first launch!</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasa-reconfiguring-future-sls-planning/#comment-1053412</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 23:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DougSpace, 
I agree that our efforts are better spent on promoting commercial space than in killing SLS; Congress is unwilling to do so.  This does not mean that I will stop complaining about the wasted effort that is put into SLS or stop pointing out how much more could be done by redirecting that money to productive projects.  The problem we have is that Congress does not listen to We the People and does as it wishes; we reelect them despite their irreverence.  

An excellent example of how SLS is harming space exploration is in the delay of the Commercial Crew Development (CCDev) project.  In the past, CCDev received less funding than needed to remain on schedule and SLS received more.  CCDev could have been flying by now, even had there been some delays in development.  Overall CCDev expenditures would have been less and we would not now be paying Russia to get us to the ISS -- money that could also have been put to better use elsewhere.  

SLS and LOP-G are projects without missions.  Had their designers been given missions to fulfill, such as return to the Moon, reach Mars, or both, then they could have designed SLS and LOP-G to match.  It is like buying a car then deciding what you want to do with it.  Did you buy a large pickup truck but will mostly drive it to work, where parking spaces are small?  Or maybe you really needed a family car for long trips to the grandparents.  

So now it looks like we are spending too much money for rockets that launch at a low cadence, meanwhile there are better rockets under development that can launch at a more rapid cadence at far lower cost.  Yet Congress has us committed to spending valuable resources on a low-usefulness rocket rather than on the goals most people want to see accomplished.  

Well done Congress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DougSpace,<br />
I agree that our efforts are better spent on promoting commercial space than in killing SLS; Congress is unwilling to do so.  This does not mean that I will stop complaining about the wasted effort that is put into SLS or stop pointing out how much more could be done by redirecting that money to productive projects.  The problem we have is that Congress does not listen to We the People and does as it wishes; we reelect them despite their irreverence.  </p>
<p>An excellent example of how SLS is harming space exploration is in the delay of the Commercial Crew Development (CCDev) project.  In the past, CCDev received less funding than needed to remain on schedule and SLS received more.  CCDev could have been flying by now, even had there been some delays in development.  Overall CCDev expenditures would have been less and we would not now be paying Russia to get us to the ISS &#8212; money that could also have been put to better use elsewhere.  </p>
<p>SLS and LOP-G are projects without missions.  Had their designers been given missions to fulfill, such as return to the Moon, reach Mars, or both, then they could have designed SLS and LOP-G to match.  It is like buying a car then deciding what you want to do with it.  Did you buy a large pickup truck but will mostly drive it to work, where parking spaces are small?  Or maybe you really needed a family car for long trips to the grandparents.  </p>
<p>So now it looks like we are spending too much money for rockets that launch at a low cadence, meanwhile there are better rockets under development that can launch at a more rapid cadence at far lower cost.  Yet Congress has us committed to spending valuable resources on a low-usefulness rocket rather than on the goals most people want to see accomplished.  </p>
<p>Well done Congress.</p>
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		By: wodun		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wodun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 21:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Later, the Washington cartel of big aerospace companies, NASA, Congress, and our international partners in Europe and Russia are gearing up to get LOP-G funded as well, with SLS the vehicle to launch and supply it.&lt;/i&gt;

IIRC, the SLS is only needed to deliver segments of the station that don&#039;t use Orion as propulsion.

&lt;i&gt;COTS, Commercial Cargo, &#038; Commercial Crew continued despite spending on SLS, Orion, &#038; ISS.&lt;/i&gt;

Yup, we have a dual track system and it is probably the best we can get. The commercial side isn&#039;t suffering for funding either, so that&#039;s good. But the LOP-G is also supposed to utilize a COTS like approach to how it is built, who knows how that will look? And the new lunar prospecting will also use a COTS like approach for rovers and such. It will be interesting to see how these companies use their landers for commerce as well as the infrastructure used to support them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Later, the Washington cartel of big aerospace companies, NASA, Congress, and our international partners in Europe and Russia are gearing up to get LOP-G funded as well, with SLS the vehicle to launch and supply it.</i></p>
<p>IIRC, the SLS is only needed to deliver segments of the station that don&#8217;t use Orion as propulsion.</p>
<p><i>COTS, Commercial Cargo, &amp; Commercial Crew continued despite spending on SLS, Orion, &amp; ISS.</i></p>
<p>Yup, we have a dual track system and it is probably the best we can get. The commercial side isn&#8217;t suffering for funding either, so that&#8217;s good. But the LOP-G is also supposed to utilize a COTS like approach to how it is built, who knows how that will look? And the new lunar prospecting will also use a COTS like approach for rovers and such. It will be interesting to see how these companies use their landers for commerce as well as the infrastructure used to support them.</p>
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		By: DougSpace		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasa-reconfiguring-future-sls-planning/#comment-1053326</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DougSpace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2018 14:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[COTS, Commercial Cargo, &#038; Commercial Crew continued despite spending on SLS, Orion, &#038; ISS.  Getting adequate funding for a human-scale lander (e.g. XEUS/ACES) is more important than killing the SLS.  For pragmatic reasons, we should be pushing hard for the commercial lander.  Fighting the noble but probably unwinable battle against SLS shouldn’t distract from the main prize which is the commercial lander.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COTS, Commercial Cargo, &amp; Commercial Crew continued despite spending on SLS, Orion, &amp; ISS.  Getting adequate funding for a human-scale lander (e.g. XEUS/ACES) is more important than killing the SLS.  For pragmatic reasons, we should be pushing hard for the commercial lander.  Fighting the noble but probably unwinable battle against SLS shouldn’t distract from the main prize which is the commercial lander.</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2018 06:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And our long national nightmare continues...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And our long national nightmare continues&#8230;</p>
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