Comments on: NASA’s first test flight of both the Orion capsule and the heavy-lift SLS rocket in 2017 might be delayed because of design problems with the European-built service module. https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/ Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:55:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Kelly Starks https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-141347 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:55:25 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-141347 In reply to DougSpace.

SpaceX promises big — but their success rates less impressive..once you get past their pr.

Their the Solyndra of space launch.

]]> By: Tim M https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140968 Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:19:42 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140968 Spacex MaY fly their crew capsule Qual unit w their own crew first, by the end if 2015. But most likely they will Officially fly w / crew per NASA in 2016. And so far they are in the lead for milestone completions with Boeing in 2nd and Sierra Nevada in 3rd However I’m not certain why Boeing has more than the others but theirs are much easier to complete.
When completed, nonetheless, I truelly believe that the Dragon crewed capsule will be THE safest vehicle ever built for space transport. It’s… BADASS!!

]]> By: Kelly Starks https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140829 Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:09:16 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140829 In reply to Chris L.

That argument is rather specious. Its such a trivial amount of money by the standards of the feds, it just isn’t worth arguing about – especially since there would clearly be a big political fight if you propose ending NASA’s manned space capacity and missions, or even capacity to start such things in the future. Its just not worth the effort.

Really it becomes a “if not this, what?” question. So there are alternates you could propose, but they would likely cost about as much, so budgets not going to push this decision.

]]> By: DougSpace https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140730 Fri, 17 Jan 2014 00:47:17 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140730 There’s a video of Gwynn Shotwell saying that she expects a manned Dragon flight in early 2015.

]]> By: Edward https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140726 Fri, 17 Jan 2014 00:24:54 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140726 In reply to Juan in TN.

It seems to work out that way all too often.

]]> By: Chris L https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140708 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:25:47 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140708 Since 2017 happens after the 2016 election, it’s more than possible that SLS will never fly. The next administration is going to have to male real grown up choices about what to spend money on, and this white elephant doesn’t meet the grade.

]]> By: Kelly Starks https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140679 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:16:23 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140679 Dream chasers supposed to start test flights in 2016, so they might be flying people by/in 2017, I expect CST will about then to. They seem to be the farthest ahead on their engineering work and would not want to be late to the party.

course in the end everything takes longer and costs more.

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]]> By: Juan in TN https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140670 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:29:16 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140670 I am paraphrasing of course from the movie Contact but, the first rule of government contracting, why have just 1 when you can have 0 at twice the price.

]]> By: Matt in AZ https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/nasas-first-test-flight-of-both-the-orion-capsule-and-the-heavy-lift-sls-rocket-in-2017-might-be-delayed-because-of-design-problems-with-the-european-built-service-module/#comment-140658 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:49:04 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=26965#comment-140658 I’d somehow missed that SpaceX’s manned Dragon is to be called “Dragonrider”, I like it!

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