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	Comments on: New Hubble data baffles cosmologists about universe&#8217;s expansion rate	</title>
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		By: Snailmailtrucker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Confused ? Here&#039;s why !

NASA = Never A Straight Answer !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confused ? Here&#8217;s why !</p>
<p>NASA = Never A Straight Answer !</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 23:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John--
Dr. Penrose is the Master of the overhead projector! (he doesn&#039;t like the &#039;camera&#039; type projectors)
He uses the same set of transparencies&#039; for most all his &quot;C.C.C.&quot; type lectures.

from his new book---

&quot;Fashion, Faith and Fantasy in Physics&quot; 
 Sir Dr. Roger Penrose
March 2017, Royal Institution lecture
https://youtu.be/iH4XJHJ8AOw
1:03:50

&quot;With a focus on string theory, quantum mechanics, and cosmology, Sir Roger Penrose looks at how physicists are just as susceptible to flights of fantasy, fashion and blind faith as anyone else.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8211;<br />
Dr. Penrose is the Master of the overhead projector! (he doesn&#8217;t like the &#8216;camera&#8217; type projectors)<br />
He uses the same set of transparencies&#8217; for most all his &#8220;C.C.C.&#8221; type lectures.</p>
<p>from his new book&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;Fashion, Faith and Fantasy in Physics&#8221;<br />
 Sir Dr. Roger Penrose<br />
March 2017, Royal Institution lecture<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/iH4XJHJ8AOw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/iH4XJHJ8AOw</a><br />
1:03:50</p>
<p>&#8220;With a focus on string theory, quantum mechanics, and cosmology, Sir Roger Penrose looks at how physicists are just as susceptible to flights of fantasy, fashion and blind faith as anyone else.&#8221;</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 16:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wayne- Watching Penrose lecture with old school slides and projectors was awesome.  He conveys ideas with that method better than any power point.  Thanks for posting the aeons before big bang link.  

They&#039;re really analyzing that CMB radiation for all it&#039;s worth, and the wikipedia on conformal cyclic cosmology hints that there may be circular imprints.

Still doesn&#039;t cover the tension between Hubble and Planck data posted here ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne- Watching Penrose lecture with old school slides and projectors was awesome.  He conveys ideas with that method better than any power point.  Thanks for posting the aeons before big bang link.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re really analyzing that CMB radiation for all it&#8217;s worth, and the wikipedia on conformal cyclic cosmology hints that there may be circular imprints.</p>
<p>Still doesn&#8217;t cover the tension between Hubble and Planck data posted here ;)</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 00:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mr. Fusion&quot; 
(Back to the Future II )
https://youtu.be/ptlhgFaB89Y
0:31]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr. Fusion&#8221;<br />
(Back to the Future II )<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/ptlhgFaB89Y" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/ptlhgFaB89Y</a><br />
0:31</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 00:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[wayne wrote: &quot;&lt;i&gt;It’s one of the few cosmological theories that actually addresses the laws of thermodynamics, and he has little use for the concept of &#039;inflation.&#039;&lt;/i&gt;&quot;  

The idea of dark energy is attractive.  It means that there is a free energy source just laying around waiting for us to tap into it.  Who needs fossil fuels, wind turbines, or solar panels when all you have to do is plug into the dark energy outlet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wayne wrote: &#8220;<i>It’s one of the few cosmological theories that actually addresses the laws of thermodynamics, and he has little use for the concept of &#8216;inflation.&#8217;</i>&#8221;  </p>
<p>The idea of dark energy is attractive.  It means that there is a free energy source just laying around waiting for us to tap into it.  Who needs fossil fuels, wind turbines, or solar panels when all you have to do is plug into the dark energy outlet.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[on the other hand.....

&quot;Space-time and Quantum Mechanics are the pillars of our modern understanding of fundamental physics. However, there are storm clouds on the horizon indicating that these principles are approximate and must be replaced with something deeper. The union of quantum mechanics and gravity strongly suggests that &quot;space-time is doomed&quot;.&quot;

&quot;The Doom of Space Time: Why It Must Dissolve Into More Fundamental Structures&quot;
Dr. Arkani-Hamed 
Philosophical Society of Washington (PSW) meeting #2384, December 2017
https://youtu.be/qTx98PUW6lE?t=849
(2:07:09)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the other hand&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;Space-time and Quantum Mechanics are the pillars of our modern understanding of fundamental physics. However, there are storm clouds on the horizon indicating that these principles are approximate and must be replaced with something deeper. The union of quantum mechanics and gravity strongly suggests that &#8220;space-time is doomed&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Doom of Space Time: Why It Must Dissolve Into More Fundamental Structures&#8221;<br />
Dr. Arkani-Hamed<br />
Philosophical Society of Washington (PSW) meeting #2384, December 2017<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/qTx98PUW6lE?t=849" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/qTx98PUW6lE?t=849</a><br />
(2:07:09)</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Prof. Sir Roger Penrose 
&quot;Are we seeing Hawking Points in Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation?&quot;
[Quantum Spacetime 2019 Conference-- public lecture speech]
March 2019
https://youtu.be/LPSzTcyXU7o?t=765
1:41:14]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof. Sir Roger Penrose<br />
&#8220;Are we seeing Hawking Points in Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation?&#8221;<br />
[Quantum Spacetime 2019 Conference&#8211; public lecture speech]<br />
March 2019<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/LPSzTcyXU7o?t=765" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/LPSzTcyXU7o?t=765</a><br />
1:41:14</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Highly recommend any of the Conformal Cyclic Cosmology lectures by Penrose. It&#039;s one of the few cosmological theories that actually addresses the laws of thermodynamics, and he has little use for the concept of &quot;inflation.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highly recommend any of the Conformal Cyclic Cosmology lectures by Penrose. It&#8217;s one of the few cosmological theories that actually addresses the laws of thermodynamics, and he has little use for the concept of &#8220;inflation.&#8221;</p>
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		By: m d mill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m d mill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 04:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[correction: I should have said a 2 to 1 variation not &quot;200%&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: I should have said a 2 to 1 variation not &#8220;200%&#8221;</p>
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		By: m d mill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m d mill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 04:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually the theory and observations are not that far off(~10%), considering the uncertainties...If only Climate Science were any where near this certain....The &quot;best&quot; Climate models give a 200% variation in theoretical sensitivity values.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the theory and observations are not that far off(~10%), considering the uncertainties&#8230;If only Climate Science were any where near this certain&#8230;.The &#8220;best&#8221; Climate models give a 200% variation in theoretical sensitivity values.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 01:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Roger Penrose, 
&quot;Aeons before the Big Bang&quot;
 (Copernicus Center Lecture 2010) 
https://youtu.be/4YYWUIxGdl4?t=336
1:57:35]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Roger Penrose,<br />
&#8220;Aeons before the Big Bang&#8221;<br />
 (Copernicus Center Lecture 2010)<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/4YYWUIxGdl4?t=336" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/4YYWUIxGdl4?t=336</a><br />
1:57:35</p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 00:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Touting a prediction (model) over confirmed evidence is a sure sign of an ulterior motive.  Climate Science is the poster child for that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touting a prediction (model) over confirmed evidence is a sure sign of an ulterior motive.  Climate Science is the poster child for that.</p>
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