NY, Illinois, California populations in decline
According to several different analyses of census data, all released in the past few days, the Democratically-controlled liberal states of New York, Illinois, and California are seeing either historic drops in population or historic drops in population growth.
- New York is losing residents at an alarming rate
- Illinois saw nation’s worst population loss during the decade
- California’s population growth hits 80-year low
For these major states to experience reductions in population growth or declines at this time, during an economic expansion, suggests that other factors are driving people from them. Could it be their leftist socialist policies, which routinely bring high taxes, heavy regulation, and an oppressive political climate? I suspect so, especially because in the past century such socialist/communist policies have routinely caused the same result repeatedly in other countries. People fled the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc in Europe (controlled by the Soviet Union), they fled North Korea, they fled China for Hong Kong, they fled Cuba, and they have been fleeing from Venezuela.
And where do they go? Foreign refugees in large numbers clamor to enter the U.S., but if that destination is unavailable they then favor other capitalist nations, where freedom and private enterprise are honored. And in the U.S. the populations continues to generally shift toward more conservative states, places where those same concepts are also honored.
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According to several different analyses of census data, all released in the past few days, the Democratically-controlled liberal states of New York, Illinois, and California are seeing either historic drops in population or historic drops in population growth.
- New York is losing residents at an alarming rate
- Illinois saw nation’s worst population loss during the decade
- California’s population growth hits 80-year low
For these major states to experience reductions in population growth or declines at this time, during an economic expansion, suggests that other factors are driving people from them. Could it be their leftist socialist policies, which routinely bring high taxes, heavy regulation, and an oppressive political climate? I suspect so, especially because in the past century such socialist/communist policies have routinely caused the same result repeatedly in other countries. People fled the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc in Europe (controlled by the Soviet Union), they fled North Korea, they fled China for Hong Kong, they fled Cuba, and they have been fleeing from Venezuela.
And where do they go? Foreign refugees in large numbers clamor to enter the U.S., but if that destination is unavailable they then favor other capitalist nations, where freedom and private enterprise are honored. And in the U.S. the populations continues to generally shift toward more conservative states, places where those same concepts are also honored.
The support of my readers through the years has given me the freedom and ability to analyze objectively the ongoing renaissance in space, as well as the cultural changes -- for good or ill -- that are happening across America. Four years ago, just before the 2020 election I wrote that Joe Biden's mental health was suspect. Only in the past two weeks has the mainstream media decided to recognize that basic fact.
Fourteen years ago I wrote that SLS and Orion were a bad ideas, a waste of money, would be years behind schedule, and better replaced by commercial private enterprise. Even today NASA and Congress refuses to recognize this reality.
In 2020 when the world panicked over COVID I wrote that the panic was unnecessary, that the virus was apparently simply a variation of the flu, that masks were not simply pointless but if worn incorrectly were a health threat, that the lockdowns were a disaster and did nothing to stop the spread of COVID. Only in the past year have some of our so-called experts in the health field have begun to recognize these facts.
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They all move away because they can no longer stand the outrageous taxation that their own mindless Liberal Democrat voting has resulted in.
And then they move.
And they bring those same Liberal voting patterns and thought processes to that new location. HELLO.
I agree with your reasons stated, but there is also the safety factor related to criminals being held responsible for their actions.
Who would want to live where you can get robbed and the police can do nothing.
The rule of law and the economic factors top my list of reasons!
Phill O:
If you are responding to me I have extensively reported on and pointed out the folly and destructive nature of the “Progressive” agenda and how it destroys law and order and calls it “Social Justice” and “Equality” both in NYC and specifically in Seattle which is the model for what is now coming to New York in a new and more enabled manner.
All Leftist driven political agendas that are in opposition to the Founding of our country.
They move for a less thought of reason.
Retirement.
They are now retired and find that they can sell their 500,000 home in California and move someplace that is cheaper. They are thinking of spreading their retirements farther.
Liberals tend to think that it was their liberal policies that made their states great. They forget that their states were built by and on capitalism for hundreds of years before modern liberalism came about. Since modern liberalism has come about in the 1960’s the quality of life in those areas has gone down. More crime, more poverty, more gap between the haves and have knots.
But as long as the wealthy liberals have a louder voice than the poor they will go on thinking they have all the correct answers.
Now they are bringing those very same liberal policies with them when they move in retirement.
Cotour Bob was the direction of my comment! I am sure he had a short slip and forgot the safety issue.
I sure like the actions of those in the CoC in Texas. We are not going to tolerate this terrorism for what ever reason. The mother of the stabbing of the Rabbi said he was a gentle giant: Really?
As others stated, they bring their liberal thinking and infect the places they relocate to. Your proof is Texas. It is certain that their relocating is a bad thing, unfortunately, for conservative states.
Phill O: This is the real world result of the newly implemented “Progressive” agenda in NY State and NY City. “Progressives”, and to be clear the term has no relation to any logical progression or progress other than to further their Leftist agenda. It relates to subjective “Social Justice” and “Equality” and “Fairness” all three of which are based in real bias and emotion and having nothing to do with objective rational thought process in which all sane law is based. In other words this is much like reparations. Mayor DeBlasio, Leftist, is all about evening the score between the “evil” white man and that he has oppressed in the world. That has become my reasonable conclusion about him and his fellow travelers anyway, I have no doubt.
And the more rational and every day Americans who define themselves as being a part of the Democrat party are all forced to take the Socialist and really Fascistic ride. This is “Social Justice”. And then these operatives accuse the Right of being fascist. What they in fact are doing they accuse their opponents of doing, we have seen this very clearly in the last three years in America related to the “Russia Collusion” / Mueller investigation when it has clearly been the Democrats and Hillary herself who have been in collusion with and receiving masses of millions from the Russians and not Trump.
“Suspects arrested in last week’s spree of eight anti-Semitic attacks are being quickly released right back into the neighborhoods they terrorized thanks to “bail reform” legislation — which doesn’t even take effect until Jan. 1.”
https://nypost.com/2019/12/28/suspects-released-without-bail-after-shocking-attacks-on-jews/
“It’s open season in New York — open season on innocent people. On Jews, on Muslims, on gay people. It applies to anybody. But it’s the Jewish people in particular who have been targeted.”
The Leftists have now functionally flipped the formal definition of Fascism on its head: (A brilliant and effective strategy)
Fascism: “Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.” This now accurately describes the Left in American politics.
This is what the Left accuses Trump of being and he is nothing of the sort. And now they have legislative majorities in several states and the every day American Democrats are now faced with a clear choice. What will they do?
PS: Happy New Year, 2020 is going to be a year where most all are going to be amazed and shocked, all for the long term good IMO.
At least in case of New York they move because of economics. Except for finance and entertainment, concentrated in New York City and it’s suburbs, the state doesn’t have economy. Eastern Long Island, the Hudson Valley (except for the Albany reason which thrives off taxes used to pay its swollen bureaucracy and their infrastructure – there are few symbols of isolation and hubris more potent than the sterile Empire State Plaza and its dozen or so office towers stuffed with over 11,000 bureaucrats running the lives of its citizens
“The scale of the buildings in the plaza is imposing, and the complex is the most easily recognizable aspect of the Albany skyline. The Corning Tower is the tallest building in New York State outside of New York City; the Swan Street Building is more than a quarter of a mile long (400 meters), and modeled partly on Pharaoh Hatshepsut’s Temple at Deir el-Bahri, Egypt.[citation needed] The Main Platform of the plaza itself is one of the largest buildings in the world”
From PBS’s “The Shock of the New” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UCT6J0u8B4
The rest of Upstate, with the exception of Corning, to the Canadian Border and to Buffalo is an economic wasteland.
So people, knowing they can do better working, rather than living as wards of the state are headed out if they can afford it.
Col B:
Excellent point.
The money machine that is Wall Street and all the rest gives a “Progressive” like DeBlasio and a Liberal like Cuomo the tax base and cash flow to monkey around and pander to their fellow Liberals, Leftists and those in the culture of dependency to keep it all going.
Without that massive money machine these operatives and political panderers would be dead in the water. These politcos need people held in the dark clutches of poverty in order to survive. What a cynical way to live ones life. To be forced to promote the darkness of poverty and dependency over the light of hard work and the freedom of true personal empowerment to make one relevant.
Dark indeed.
NEW FOR 2020: CLARIFYING DEFINITIONS IN THE NEW YEAR
NEW FOR 2020:
“Progressivism”: Is a parasitic stealth form of far-Left authoritarian ultra socialism characterized by dictatorial party power, “Social Justice”, faux equality and racism, fear, subjective emotional guilt, forcible suppression of opposition through control of government law enforcement and other governmental agencies by sympathetic individuals who find themselves in positions of power within government, media and media corporate entities who pose as unbiased journalists, strong regimentation of primarily the American Democrat party by a minority of persons who adhere to Leftist I.E. Marxist based theology with the agenda to use the American Constitution against itself in order to raze it and recast it in a hollowed out form in order to serve the Socialist / Globalist agenda. This political movement of a minority of extremist Leftist Democrat ideologues forces the more traditional majority of American Democrat voters through coercion, disinformation and faulty emotional logic to support and empower their Leftist agenda.
OLD:
Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultra nationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.
“Progressivism” is just extremist Right wing Fascism adopted and “improved” by the Left with an extremist Left wing twist. Let us not further allow the Left and the Democrats who are now controlled by them in our country to continue to confuse the ill educated and politically uninitiated. Ignorance is a power we must deny them.
Cotour,
The “old” definition of Fascism you provide is, in fact, the revisionist version that the Left has been flogging for decades. Fascism is not, in any sense, a “right-wing” political philosophy. It was invented as the first form of national socialism by Benito Mussolini who, before inventing Fascism, had been one of the leading theoreticians of the international socialist movement – a Marxist movement.
International socialism of the Marxist variety was, and is, a “One-World” movement. The various forms of national socialism – mainly Fascism in Italy and Nazism in Germany – were also socialist movements, just ones with a strong nationalistic component and, in the case of Nazism, crack-brained “racial theory.”
Prior to WW2, both Mussolini and Hitler had many admirers among leftists in the U.S. – including the Nazi race theory stuff. One of FDR’s cabinet secretaries – I forget which one – even had a portrait of Mussolini on his office wall. Even Hitler’s policy of euthanizing the incurably ill, the mentally defective and the members of “inferior” races was endorsed by U.S. leftist advocates of eugenics such as Margaret Sanger who founded Planned Parenthood with the idea of eventually rendering the U.S. free of blacks.
The idea that Fascism/Nazism was/is a “right-wing” political philosophy was a lie that U.S. and European leftists started promulgating after WW2 as part of their attempt to put the erstwhile Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939 down the Orwellian memory hole and cast Fascism/Nazism as antithetical to socialism/communism/Marxism. All complete balderdash of course.
The Soviets had the Komsomol and the Nazis had the Hitler Youth. The Nazis also had something fairly similar, if much more militaristic, to the American Depression-era Works Progress Administration (WPA) and Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC), both products of the early Roosevelt administration. In Leni Riefenstahl’s classic pro-Nazi propaganda film Triumph of the Will, there is a brief vignette showing one of these quasi-military “civilian” formations doing something pretty much like close order drill only with shovels, not rifles. The translated narration reads like something out of the Communist Manifesto.
There are centralist, authoritarian forms of right-wing government – royalism and hereditary aristocracy being the main one of historical consequence – but Fascism and Nazism are not numbered among these.
The Big 3 Leftist Hellhole states are, indeed, all losing population.
Illinois might be worst off because it has no ready source of fresh immigrants with which to backfill its losses of native population.
New York is not doing too well in this respect either. Upstate is, increasingly, a series of ghost towns. Even NYC has pretty much just been treading water in terms of total population since the 50’s. Immigrants, especially from the Caribbean islands, continue to displace whites and blacks with deeper roots in the state, but even Puerto Rico is not a bottomless source of new New Yorkers – there are already more Puerto Ricans in the NY-NJ NYC metroplex than there are remaining in Puerto Rico itself.
California, where I have lived for 45 years, has been bleeding long-term residents – and backfilling with recent arrivals mainly from Mexico – for the most recent 30 of those years. The annual rate is now above 500K and will soon be 600K the way things are going. California’s once vigorous population growth has pretty much plateaued and, after this year’s upcoming census, and the legislative redistricting it will usher in, CA is all but certain to lose U.S. Congressional seats for the first time in its history. But the losses of CA Congressional seats in 2022 will likely be dwarfed by those coming in 2032 as Pres. Trump’s border control measures and anti-illegal immigration diplomatic efforts begin to bite and are carried on after he leaves office.
Given that California used to be a reliably Republican state, I don’t think the exodus of what I like to call the “Reverse Okies” in recent years has necessarily been turning their destination states as Blue as some have alleged. Much of said exodus seems to have been by people who are still Republicans, but no longer, alas, CA Republicans.
That isn’t to say that influxes of freshly emigrated Californians haven’t caused some problems in their new states of residence. One is that increasing demand has driven up home prices rapidly in certain Western states. The way I see it, natives of those states who complain about this, and who used to also complain that their states were losing all their young people to CA and NY have some deciding to do anent what their preferred problem is to have.
Dick–
Great stuff.
Creeping Marxism -The Fabian Society – Aims & Origins
https://youtu.be/BM7myQUfW5E
6:20
Part of the problem we have with discussing politics today, is the Lefts total twisting of the vocabulary and language of history.
Marxists preach international-revolution, but in a country with a large ‘middle class’ such as the United States, the ‘working class’ is Not going to violently up rise and impose the socialist utopia.
The coup has to happen gradually and with the support of the “middle class.’
Nazi’s were nationalist-socialists, Marxists were internationalist-socialists.