*Sigh* If only HSAs were like IRAs instead of having to go through an employer. My IRA is currently my “HSA.”

But then, HSAs such as this would defeat the incentive to the insurance companies — the tyrannical, mandated purchase of policies. Talk about crony capitalism, this is the ultimate, creating a tyranny just to make one industry happy.

[I had to delete the rest of this reply, because it quickly degraded into cursing — both the words and placing curses and poxes on government and certain officials within or formerly within government.]

Kaiser Permanente boasted of it’s part in crafting the AHA. In other words, huge healthcare/health insurance companies wrote the legislation which the our representatives didn’t have time to read.

Is it any wonder our insurance costs have grown much higher.

This is what would be called “social justice” and it is quite literally a mechanism to redistribute individual American’s money and their freedom. This must not remain and or accepted.

A responsible person who saved their premiums rather than giver them to an insurer would be better off in most cases but the key is you still have to save. I think more people would have been in favor of a HSA type of thing that mandated saving rather than the current plan that mandates spending.

It feels like a rip off to pay in and get nothing back while you read about people whose plans are subsidized through your premiums getting massage therapy and knee reconstructions.

Ya, that is about what happened to mine only its $6350 or whatever the cap is. So yours can still inch up a bit :(

These high deductibles, the high premiums that go along with them, and the 50% co-pay for anything that exceeds my deductible (up to a fairly high limit) are why I am now a scofflaw. I figured out that I break even in just about a dozen years for a $100,000 disease (if I got such a bill, the cost of the insurance and the out of pocket expenses would have come to the same amount). That calculation was last year when the Bronze Turd Plan premiums were only $7,000 (actually, a couple of hundred or so dollars more than that), before the premiums increased for this year. As premiums increase, the break even point gets shorter and shorter. It just isn’t worth it for a still-healthy person like me to start paying the high premiums.

From the article: “If you couldn’t afford insurance before ObamaCare, this likely isn’t affordable either. At least before ObamaCare, high deductible policies had low monthly costs, and a wise consumer could save the money they weren’t spending on high premiums. But those plans aren’t ACA compliant and are no longer available.”

It was worth it back when I could get high deductibles for low monthly costs — the money I saved on premiums went into a savings account to cover the high deductible. Now the deductibles are high, the monthly payment is high, and there is now a high co-pay even after the deductible is reached.

*BAH!*

Mine is $6000.00 now, if I remember correctly it was $1200.00 previously, before Obamacare.

https://youtu.be/rtBvQj2k6xo

The Pope pointed it out today in his speech to Congress today.