<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: OneWeb faces bankruptcy, even as it is about to launch more satellites	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2020 07:41:11 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Richard M		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077846</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2020 07:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077846</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[&quot;So it is highly likely that the hardware will be used by someone.&quot;

Yup.

Just look at Iridium.

The difficulty, of course, is not that the existing sats will be abandoned, but that OneWeb&#039;s deployment of the constellation will get paused, possibly long enough to lose its chance of reaching the size required to secure its frequencies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So it is highly likely that the hardware will be used by someone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup.</p>
<p>Just look at Iridium.</p>
<p>The difficulty, of course, is not that the existing sats will be abandoned, but that OneWeb&#8217;s deployment of the constellation will get paused, possibly long enough to lose its chance of reaching the size required to secure its frequencies.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077842</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2020 05:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077842</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[allow an MBA to shed some light here. Bankruptcy under Chapter 11 does not mean &quot;we&#039;re ceasing to operate&quot;, it means &quot;we&#039;re no longer paying our debts&quot;. Three outcomes are possible 1) The firm is reorganized with stockholders being wiped out and the creditors becoming equity holders with new stock. 2) The firm is sold (usually at a deep discount) to a either new investors or an existing entity 3) The firm is broken up and the pieces sold off. In outcomes 2 and 3, the stockholders are wiped out and the creditors take a haircut getting (usually) pennies on the dollar. So it is highly likely that the hardware will be used by someone]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>allow an MBA to shed some light here. Bankruptcy under Chapter 11 does not mean &#8220;we&#8217;re ceasing to operate&#8221;, it means &#8220;we&#8217;re no longer paying our debts&#8221;. Three outcomes are possible 1) The firm is reorganized with stockholders being wiped out and the creditors becoming equity holders with new stock. 2) The firm is sold (usually at a deep discount) to a either new investors or an existing entity 3) The firm is broken up and the pieces sold off. In outcomes 2 and 3, the stockholders are wiped out and the creditors take a haircut getting (usually) pennies on the dollar. So it is highly likely that the hardware will be used by someone</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 23:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077818</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[eddie willers,

What Edward said except for the following - &quot;Communications between the satellites was designed to be only within each constellation.&quot;

OneWeb&#039;s satellites have no inter-satellite communications capability.  Any communication between them has to go through ground stations.  That is currently true of Starlink also, but inter-satellite comm links as well as on-orbit switching are planned for future versions of the Starlink birds, some of which may be launched later this year.

This is a big deal long-term because networks with no inter-satellite links will be both slower than those with such links and will also be subject to potential censorship of content at any ground station needed to relay content.

OneWeb deliberately crippled its network in this fashion to curry favor with totalitarian regimes such as those in Russia and China.  In the case of Russia, OneWeb was also going to have to surrender half the revenue from Russian operations to Putin and his cronies.  Even after making all these concessions the Russians still reneged on the tentative deal to allow OneWeb access to its market.  That likely contributed to OneWeb&#039;s financial difficulties.

A further, and perhaps even more consequential, contributor to OneWeb&#039;s woes is that China already plans a LEO broadband constellation of its own and, so, can also ban OneWeb with no consequences.  There&#039;s also the high probability that the West in general, and the U.S. in particular, will be looking to unwind many of its current ties to China in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic.

In the rest of the world, OneWeb is faced with the daunting challenge of competing on price and capacity with Starlink and perhaps, someday, even the still-notional Kuiper constellation Amazon has announced it intends to put up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eddie willers,</p>
<p>What Edward said except for the following &#8211; &#8220;Communications between the satellites was designed to be only within each constellation.&#8221;</p>
<p>OneWeb&#8217;s satellites have no inter-satellite communications capability.  Any communication between them has to go through ground stations.  That is currently true of Starlink also, but inter-satellite comm links as well as on-orbit switching are planned for future versions of the Starlink birds, some of which may be launched later this year.</p>
<p>This is a big deal long-term because networks with no inter-satellite links will be both slower than those with such links and will also be subject to potential censorship of content at any ground station needed to relay content.</p>
<p>OneWeb deliberately crippled its network in this fashion to curry favor with totalitarian regimes such as those in Russia and China.  In the case of Russia, OneWeb was also going to have to surrender half the revenue from Russian operations to Putin and his cronies.  Even after making all these concessions the Russians still reneged on the tentative deal to allow OneWeb access to its market.  That likely contributed to OneWeb&#8217;s financial difficulties.</p>
<p>A further, and perhaps even more consequential, contributor to OneWeb&#8217;s woes is that China already plans a LEO broadband constellation of its own and, so, can also ban OneWeb with no consequences.  There&#8217;s also the high probability that the West in general, and the U.S. in particular, will be looking to unwind many of its current ties to China in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic.</p>
<p>In the rest of the world, OneWeb is faced with the daunting challenge of competing on price and capacity with Starlink and perhaps, someday, even the still-notional Kuiper constellation Amazon has announced it intends to put up.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: talgus		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[talgus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077815</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[soon, those with dark skys will only see internet low orbit satellites]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soon, those with dark skys will only see internet low orbit satellites</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: jhon		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077807</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jhon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077807</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Space junk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Space junk</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: wayne		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077806</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077806</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Phill --
I agree that things, are getting out of hand. 

Ref-- Oneweb-- 
I don&#039;t have the time, but dig up the actual Filing.  
It has a value to somebody, either the parts (I would defer to others) or as a potentially (18%... hmm) going-concern, but at a hugely steep haircut. 
[this, however, is an extremely bad time to have cash flow problems]
Lower in the article is this gem--
&quot;Musk’s SpaceX is working on the Starlink network, and Amazon has plans for its own satellite constellation named Kuiper, to provide broadband connectivity from space.&quot;
Musk is totally on track to be THE low cost provider, and Bezo&#039;s has deep pockets, tough to compete against that pair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phill &#8212;<br />
I agree that things, are getting out of hand. </p>
<p>Ref&#8211; Oneweb&#8211;<br />
I don&#8217;t have the time, but dig up the actual Filing.<br />
It has a value to somebody, either the parts (I would defer to others) or as a potentially (18%&#8230; hmm) going-concern, but at a hugely steep haircut.<br />
[this, however, is an extremely bad time to have cash flow problems]<br />
Lower in the article is this gem&#8211;<br />
&#8220;Musk’s SpaceX is working on the Starlink network, and Amazon has plans for its own satellite constellation named Kuiper, to provide broadband connectivity from space.&#8221;<br />
Musk is totally on track to be THE low cost provider, and Bezo&#8217;s has deep pockets, tough to compete against that pair.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Phill O		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077801</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phill O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077801</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Who needs to reframe the criteria for calling a pandemic!  This is all ludicrous considering the deaths from the flu.  As more people are tested (not just the critically ill) we will see the death rate drop to current flu rates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who needs to reframe the criteria for calling a pandemic!  This is all ludicrous considering the deaths from the flu.  As more people are tested (not just the critically ill) we will see the death rate drop to current flu rates.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Edward		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077800</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 04:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077800</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[eddie willers asked: &quot;&lt;i&gt;Can SpaceX configure those satellites to work within their own system?&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

Probably not.  The frequencies are different and the antennas are set up to work differently.  Communications between the satellites was designed to be only within each constellation.  In the case of bankruptcy, the best bet is for someone to buy OneWeb&#039;s constellation and ground support and complete them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eddie willers asked: &#8220;<i>Can SpaceX configure those satellites to work within their own system?</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>Probably not.  The frequencies are different and the antennas are set up to work differently.  Communications between the satellites was designed to be only within each constellation.  In the case of bankruptcy, the best bet is for someone to buy OneWeb&#8217;s constellation and ground support and complete them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: eddie willers		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/oneweb-faces-bankruptcy-even-as-it-is-about-to-launch-more-satellites/#comment-1077796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eddie willers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 04:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://behindtheblack.com/?p=64370#comment-1077796</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[This question is for anyone.

Can SpaceX configure those satellites to work within their own system?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question is for anyone.</p>
<p>Can SpaceX configure those satellites to work within their own system?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
