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		By: Paul Lewis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2022 22:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fact that BLACKROCK Investments owns them should be enough NOT to do business with Paypal. I closed a 24 year old account with them last month. They are under attack by hackers and it was affecting me. Their 2-step verification is worthless and can be bypassed. I don&#039;t trust them now after Blackrock become an owner. You shouldn&#039;t either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that BLACKROCK Investments owns them should be enough NOT to do business with Paypal. I closed a 24 year old account with them last month. They are under attack by hackers and it was affecting me. Their 2-step verification is worthless and can be bypassed. I don&#8217;t trust them now after Blackrock become an owner. You shouldn&#8217;t either.</p>
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		By: Leroy Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leroy Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 12:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I too cancelled my account with PayPal, years ago. 

Finding an alternative can be a chore but I would urge your readers to do their own research on potential peer to peer banking services companies. As an example, I learned that Venmo, (a recommended alternative), is in fact owned by PayPal. I guess I will not be using them even though friends and family members like them. I will not use a company I don&#039;t research first.

Zelle, which was mentioned in this article, is owned by a number of different banks like Chase, Capitol One, JP Morgan, US Bank, Wells Fargo and some other smaller banks. This raises a red flag with me as these are the banks that took Federal Bail Out Money to bolster their bottom line, not to help their customers. Remember the phrase &quot;To Big To Fail&quot;? Yep, that&#039;s them....

Patreon, also mentioned in this article, is more of a subscription service geared to the Artsy, Fartsy Liberals. Look at their track record, they have been banning Conservatives since 2014. This POS outfit was started in 2013 so they didn&#039;t waste any time. Patreon is not free either, you have to pay for their service.

On a personal note, if I have to send money Peer to Peer, the receiver of my cash will have to wait on the US Postal Service and accept a hand written check. If not well then I will take my business elsewhere.

Bottom line here folks, do your own research, know who you are dealing with, it takes mere moments to find out who is who.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too cancelled my account with PayPal, years ago. </p>
<p>Finding an alternative can be a chore but I would urge your readers to do their own research on potential peer to peer banking services companies. As an example, I learned that Venmo, (a recommended alternative), is in fact owned by PayPal. I guess I will not be using them even though friends and family members like them. I will not use a company I don&#8217;t research first.</p>
<p>Zelle, which was mentioned in this article, is owned by a number of different banks like Chase, Capitol One, JP Morgan, US Bank, Wells Fargo and some other smaller banks. This raises a red flag with me as these are the banks that took Federal Bail Out Money to bolster their bottom line, not to help their customers. Remember the phrase &#8220;To Big To Fail&#8221;? Yep, that&#8217;s them&#8230;.</p>
<p>Patreon, also mentioned in this article, is more of a subscription service geared to the Artsy, Fartsy Liberals. Look at their track record, they have been banning Conservatives since 2014. This POS outfit was started in 2013 so they didn&#8217;t waste any time. Patreon is not free either, you have to pay for their service.</p>
<p>On a personal note, if I have to send money Peer to Peer, the receiver of my cash will have to wait on the US Postal Service and accept a hand written check. If not well then I will take my business elsewhere.</p>
<p>Bottom line here folks, do your own research, know who you are dealing with, it takes mere moments to find out who is who.</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I managed to cancel my account a couple hours before the new policy kicked in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I managed to cancel my account a couple hours before the new policy kicked in.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2022 02:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to rumors, many of the people who cancelled their accounts had a small cash balance. Basically, this is the equivalent of a ‘run’ on a bank and has impacted the company’s liquidity. The company will report earnings this week, and we should get a glimpse of the impact of this debacle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to rumors, many of the people who cancelled their accounts had a small cash balance. Basically, this is the equivalent of a ‘run’ on a bank and has impacted the company’s liquidity. The company will report earnings this week, and we should get a glimpse of the impact of this debacle.</p>
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		By: Johnny Lanctot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny Lanctot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It took some effort, but I finally got my PayPal account closed.  I used it because I bought and sold items on eBay. I had been a customer with PP since 2001 and with eBay even longer.  EBay was going south as well and I was using them less and less.  I buying fewer items and plan on just donating the things I would have sold in the past.  Life will be less complicated and I can well afford to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took some effort, but I finally got my PayPal account closed.  I used it because I bought and sold items on eBay. I had been a customer with PP since 2001 and with eBay even longer.  EBay was going south as well and I was using them less and less.  I buying fewer items and plan on just donating the things I would have sold in the past.  Life will be less complicated and I can well afford to do so.</p>
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		By: The Last Optimist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Last Optimist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cancelled my PayPal account when the news first broke.  My problem is that neither of my credit unions support most of the alternate money transfer services.  I could add my debit card to a digital wallet for tap to pay, but sending money to a friend or family member?  Right now I would need to mail them a check.

Their reluctance to adopt other payment platforms stems from the lack of auditing and system controls to ensure the person paying authorized the transaction.  I had two different Zelle accounts pull money from the checking account at my credit union without authorization.  They stated they experience dozens of those events weekly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cancelled my PayPal account when the news first broke.  My problem is that neither of my credit unions support most of the alternate money transfer services.  I could add my debit card to a digital wallet for tap to pay, but sending money to a friend or family member?  Right now I would need to mail them a check.</p>
<p>Their reluctance to adopt other payment platforms stems from the lack of auditing and system controls to ensure the person paying authorized the transaction.  I had two different Zelle accounts pull money from the checking account at my credit union without authorization.  They stated they experience dozens of those events weekly.</p>
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		By: Robert Scrape		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Scrape]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The specifics of the reported $2,500 penalty -- who and what it applies to -- don&#039;t matter as much as the fact that PayPal has asserted that it has the right to seize a sizable chunk of users&#039; funds because it doesn&#039;t like those users&#039; beliefs or activities.  What person, of ANY political stripe, is going to feel comfortable entrusting funds to a financial institution that claims the right to ransom your money if it doesn&#039;t like you?  

Didn&#039;t something similar happen during the trucker&#039;s stripe in Canada?  IIRC, the government was going to start seizing money from the bank accounts of people suspected of involvement in that protest.  Almost immediately, there was a run on the banks, so the government had to reverse course.  Lesson: faith in financial institutions is precious, so don&#039;t squander it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The specifics of the reported $2,500 penalty &#8212; who and what it applies to &#8212; don&#8217;t matter as much as the fact that PayPal has asserted that it has the right to seize a sizable chunk of users&#8217; funds because it doesn&#8217;t like those users&#8217; beliefs or activities.  What person, of ANY political stripe, is going to feel comfortable entrusting funds to a financial institution that claims the right to ransom your money if it doesn&#8217;t like you?  </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t something similar happen during the trucker&#8217;s stripe in Canada?  IIRC, the government was going to start seizing money from the bank accounts of people suspected of involvement in that protest.  Almost immediately, there was a run on the banks, so the government had to reverse course.  Lesson: faith in financial institutions is precious, so don&#8217;t squander it.</p>
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		By: MarkInKansas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I eagerly await the payment and money services that I expect Elon Musk will offer with his newly reconfigured platform, Twitter.]]></description>
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		By: Richard DP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard DP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent news!

I did my part, cancelling a dormant paypal account soon after the news broke. Hoping for an alternate payment processor to gain traction.

There are a bunch of zombie companies like Uber, Lyft, Wayfair, etc. out there. They cannot turn a profit, and investors are turning against them. They cannot survive higher interest rates. In six months, they will be bleeding cash and market share.

They don&#039;t like patriots. When the time comes, let&#039;s boycott them and push them into bankruptcy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent news!</p>
<p>I did my part, cancelling a dormant paypal account soon after the news broke. Hoping for an alternate payment processor to gain traction.</p>
<p>There are a bunch of zombie companies like Uber, Lyft, Wayfair, etc. out there. They cannot turn a profit, and investors are turning against them. They cannot survive higher interest rates. In six months, they will be bleeding cash and market share.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t like patriots. When the time comes, let&#8217;s boycott them and push them into bankruptcy.</p>
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		By: Jonathan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The details of the $2500 fine don&#039;t matter anymore.  A smart company would have front-run this story and created a campaign to exclaim that it would never capriciously fine any customer for any amount.  Instead, you have PayPal dithering and dodging, making statements that are neither clear, nor helpful.  This is a text-book case on how NOT to run a successful company.  Those who called for PayPal to fail in this decade were prescient, probably even more than they imagined.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The details of the $2500 fine don&#8217;t matter anymore.  A smart company would have front-run this story and created a campaign to exclaim that it would never capriciously fine any customer for any amount.  Instead, you have PayPal dithering and dodging, making statements that are neither clear, nor helpful.  This is a text-book case on how NOT to run a successful company.  Those who called for PayPal to fail in this decade were prescient, probably even more than they imagined.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 15:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:

AMERICA IDENTIFIES THE SYMBOLS OF ITS PROBLEMS: DEMOCRATS
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Both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are as I have correctly been pointing out now for several years not leaders but are empty facades for their political masters and betters, the radical Obama lead &quot;Progressive&quot; Democrat party machine masterminds that seek to &quot;Fundamentally transform America&quot;. 

And all America can now clearly see the results of these efforts with the rampant crime, gang shootings, the insane and drug addled living and crapping on the streets, inflation, high cost of energy, destabilizing sexual perversion and anti-American theories and indoctrination, racism and hatred, you will comply with government mandates being taught in schools. 

And the entire world having no respect for and serious doubts about what exactly America now represents. And it all squarely sits upon the Democrat party machines leaderships shoulders. Well done, Democrats! 

Obama rally for Fetterman, one more obedient empty facade: &quot;EF Joe Biden!&quot; :https://youtu.be/M4BlKGaEQGg  45 sec.

Sky News Australia: America today:  https://youtu.be/rNU8Ypk2hAI    1:38 min.

 And the Democrat party is about to pay a very heavy political price for their deceit and desperate corruption in an attempt to retain and further acquire political power and control. The Democrats treasonous attempts to &quot;Transform America&quot; as per former president Obama into a Constitutionally hollow shell filled with the American people living in fear of their government and their Communistic use of the DOJ and the FBI as political weapons and enforcers for their agenda. 

Treasonous all because they have systematically weakened the country both domestically, economically and militarily and have actively pandered to and sold out to the enemies of America in a broad spectrum of ways. 

A very big and well deserved *NO THANK YOU* is coming on November 8th.  (It&#039;s going to be massive IMO)

You are a Democrat? You vote Democrat? Not this year.  

The three persons below are essentially enemy operatives within our government and not leaders.

https://apis.mail.aol.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-_95qz8vtNQnj2guvJpSi615JXjYizy9bcZuM2MCqJDk8zBIwKj0CmLH_qmCDE5NsTJVJXmOu9vG5vVhaOWavzw/messages/@.id==ACa2VTEJdAMnY16T0QGOcIzslAM/content/parts/@.id==2/thumbnail?appid=AolMailNorrin&#038;downloadWhenThumbnailFails=true&#038;pid=2]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:</p>
<p>AMERICA IDENTIFIES THE SYMBOLS OF ITS PROBLEMS: DEMOCRATS<br />
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<p>Both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are as I have correctly been pointing out now for several years not leaders but are empty facades for their political masters and betters, the radical Obama lead &#8220;Progressive&#8221; Democrat party machine masterminds that seek to &#8220;Fundamentally transform America&#8221;. </p>
<p>And all America can now clearly see the results of these efforts with the rampant crime, gang shootings, the insane and drug addled living and crapping on the streets, inflation, high cost of energy, destabilizing sexual perversion and anti-American theories and indoctrination, racism and hatred, you will comply with government mandates being taught in schools. </p>
<p>And the entire world having no respect for and serious doubts about what exactly America now represents. And it all squarely sits upon the Democrat party machines leaderships shoulders. Well done, Democrats! </p>
<p>Obama rally for Fetterman, one more obedient empty facade: &#8220;EF Joe Biden!&#8221; :<a href="https://youtu.be/M4BlKGaEQGg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/M4BlKGaEQGg</a>  45 sec.</p>
<p>Sky News Australia: America today:  <a href="https://youtu.be/rNU8Ypk2hAI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/rNU8Ypk2hAI</a>    1:38 min.</p>
<p> And the Democrat party is about to pay a very heavy political price for their deceit and desperate corruption in an attempt to retain and further acquire political power and control. The Democrats treasonous attempts to &#8220;Transform America&#8221; as per former president Obama into a Constitutionally hollow shell filled with the American people living in fear of their government and their Communistic use of the DOJ and the FBI as political weapons and enforcers for their agenda. </p>
<p>Treasonous all because they have systematically weakened the country both domestically, economically and militarily and have actively pandered to and sold out to the enemies of America in a broad spectrum of ways. </p>
<p>A very big and well deserved *NO THANK YOU* is coming on November 8th.  (It&#8217;s going to be massive IMO)</p>
<p>You are a Democrat? You vote Democrat? Not this year.  </p>
<p>The three persons below are essentially enemy operatives within our government and not leaders.</p>
<p><a href="https://apis.mail.aol.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-_95qz8vtNQnj2guvJpSi615JXjYizy9bcZuM2MCqJDk8zBIwKj0CmLH_qmCDE5NsTJVJXmOu9vG5vVhaOWavzw/messages/@.id==ACa2VTEJdAMnY16T0QGOcIzslAM/content/parts/@.id==2/thumbnail?appid=AolMailNorrin&#038;downloadWhenThumbnailFails=true&#038;pid=2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://apis.mail.aol.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-_95qz8vtNQnj2guvJpSi615JXjYizy9bcZuM2MCqJDk8zBIwKj0CmLH_qmCDE5NsTJVJXmOu9vG5vVhaOWavzw/messages/@.id==ACa2VTEJdAMnY16T0QGOcIzslAM/content/parts/@.id==2/thumbnail?appid=AolMailNorrin&#038;downloadWhenThumbnailFails=true&#038;pid=2</a></p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sailorcurt noted &quot;I suppose its because convenience is more important to them than principles…which doesn’t say much for their character.&quot;

Cast your mind back to the past three years. If you wanted to do business locally, a lot more convenient to wear a mask, wasn&#039;t it? Not many defied the Mandate, because it&#039;s easier to go along to get along. No outcry about the assault on individual liberty and dignity, because it was inconvenient. 

When The People find that convenience trumps principle, a society is done as an ideal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sailorcurt noted &#8220;I suppose its because convenience is more important to them than principles…which doesn’t say much for their character.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cast your mind back to the past three years. If you wanted to do business locally, a lot more convenient to wear a mask, wasn&#8217;t it? Not many defied the Mandate, because it&#8217;s easier to go along to get along. No outcry about the assault on individual liberty and dignity, because it was inconvenient. </p>
<p>When The People find that convenience trumps principle, a society is done as an ideal.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 16:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t know what Pay Pal expected.  The last I heard, the average income for Americans is $50,000, and PP is threatening to confiscate 5% of that amount.  That is a &lt;em&gt;lot &lt;/em&gt;of money to most people, and  risking that PP will arbitrarily deem something said is finable has heavy consequences.  I think most people are not prepared for such a gamble.  Whatever happened to free speech in America?  The whole idea was for We the People to be free to express grievances against those in power, such as the companies that we do business with.  If we cannot complain about the service, how are they to know that we are dissatisfied and want improved service?  

It looks like a lot of people are waking up and realizing that &quot;it can&#039;t happen to me&quot; is just a fantasy, and that it could happen, even here in America.  This country has changed during the course of this century, and not for the better.  In 2005, for example, would any company have thought that they could do this?  Answer: one of the car rental companies tried it in the 1990s for people driving faster than the speed limit, but the courts shut them down on the first court case.  

I suspect that people who are too heavily tied to PP are the ones who are staying with their service, but an undeserved $2,500 &quot;fine&quot; is high for a &quot;cost of doing business.&quot;  

Welcome to Obama&#039;s fundamentally transformed America, land of the formerly free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know what Pay Pal expected.  The last I heard, the average income for Americans is $50,000, and PP is threatening to confiscate 5% of that amount.  That is a <em>lot </em>of money to most people, and  risking that PP will arbitrarily deem something said is finable has heavy consequences.  I think most people are not prepared for such a gamble.  Whatever happened to free speech in America?  The whole idea was for We the People to be free to express grievances against those in power, such as the companies that we do business with.  If we cannot complain about the service, how are they to know that we are dissatisfied and want improved service?  </p>
<p>It looks like a lot of people are waking up and realizing that &#8220;it can&#8217;t happen to me&#8221; is just a fantasy, and that it could happen, even here in America.  This country has changed during the course of this century, and not for the better.  In 2005, for example, would any company have thought that they could do this?  Answer: one of the car rental companies tried it in the 1990s for people driving faster than the speed limit, but the courts shut them down on the first court case.  </p>
<p>I suspect that people who are too heavily tied to PP are the ones who are staying with their service, but an undeserved $2,500 &#8220;fine&#8221; is high for a &#8220;cost of doing business.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Welcome to Obama&#8217;s fundamentally transformed America, land of the formerly free.</p>
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		By: Sailorcurt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 14:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s amazing to me that it&#039;s taken this long for so many Paypal users to realize that they&#039;re doing business with a totalitarian company that hates them and their worldview.

Why people would continue to support a business like that is beyond me.  I suppose its because convenience is more important to them than principles...which doesn&#039;t say much for their character.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s amazing to me that it&#8217;s taken this long for so many Paypal users to realize that they&#8217;re doing business with a totalitarian company that hates them and their worldview.</p>
<p>Why people would continue to support a business like that is beyond me.  I suppose its because convenience is more important to them than principles&#8230;which doesn&#8217;t say much for their character.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 12:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[V for Vendetta
&quot;The Dominoes Fall&quot;
https://youtu.be/yde6t4WG5uY?t=141]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V for Vendetta<br />
&#8220;The Dominoes Fall&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/yde6t4WG5uY?t=141" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/yde6t4WG5uY?t=141</a></p>
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		By: David Eastman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 06:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d love to know what the lawyers who tell them this will fly really thought. I&#039;d imagine it must have been something along the lines of &quot;the people we&#039;ll enforce this against won&#039;t be able to challenge us effectively in court, and I&#039;ll get paid either way.&quot; Imagine if a restaurant or any other business tried saying &quot;you, as our customer, are subject to all of our policies, and if you, in our sole opinion, violate them we will just bill you another $2,500.&quot;  They&#039;d never collect, and you might put them out of business if they tried.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to know what the lawyers who tell them this will fly really thought. I&#8217;d imagine it must have been something along the lines of &#8220;the people we&#8217;ll enforce this against won&#8217;t be able to challenge us effectively in court, and I&#8217;ll get paid either way.&#8221; Imagine if a restaurant or any other business tried saying &#8220;you, as our customer, are subject to all of our policies, and if you, in our sole opinion, violate them we will just bill you another $2,500.&#8221;  They&#8217;d never collect, and you might put them out of business if they tried.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 02:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let &#039;em die.  

Let them find out you brought or sold a rifle stock, trigger, or pistol grip and see what happens.  

Conservatives should have canceled them a long time ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let &#8217;em die.  </p>
<p>Let them find out you brought or sold a rifle stock, trigger, or pistol grip and see what happens.  </p>
<p>Conservatives should have canceled them a long time ago.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 01:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As they say on the hardwood: &quot;Ball don&#039;t lie.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As they say on the hardwood: &#8220;Ball don&#8217;t lie.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Go woke, go broke; pal]]></description>
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		By: t-dub		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s my understanding that the &quot;new&quot; $2,500 fine is for &quot;sellers&quot; that break the rules by offering firearms, porn, illicit drugs and other items against their user agreement.  I use PP as a clearing house to sometimes buy things I want when it&#039;s convenient, but keep no funds in it, no linked bank account, just a credit card which has it&#039;s own protections.  Storing $$$ in Pay Pal, or directly linking a checking account, is unwise.  Should Gab Pay or another service become as widely accepted I will gladly change but some purchases, especially online ones through a phone, sometimes require PP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that the &#8220;new&#8221; $2,500 fine is for &#8220;sellers&#8221; that break the rules by offering firearms, porn, illicit drugs and other items against their user agreement.  I use PP as a clearing house to sometimes buy things I want when it&#8217;s convenient, but keep no funds in it, no linked bank account, just a credit card which has it&#8217;s own protections.  Storing $$$ in Pay Pal, or directly linking a checking account, is unwise.  Should Gab Pay or another service become as widely accepted I will gladly change but some purchases, especially online ones through a phone, sometimes require PP.</p>
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