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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 08:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the things I worry about is this:
https://columbialawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Gillette-C.P..pdf

Now, one argument is that an out of control city like Chicago needs to be brought to heel—but things can also go the other way.

Home rule—support it or be run over]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I worry about is this:<br />
<a href="https://columbialawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Gillette-C.P" rel="nofollow ugc">https://columbialawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Gillette-C.P</a>..pdf</p>
<p>Now, one argument is that an out of control city like Chicago needs to be brought to heel—but things can also go the other way.</p>
<p>Home rule—support it or be run over</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 20:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428488&quot;&gt;Cotour&lt;/a&gt;.

Cotour: Hell will freeze over before I ban anyone from BtB based on fake slanders like anon posted. Consider, I&#039;ve spent the last three years documenting blacklisting of a similar kind, almost always for the same kinds of hateful undocumented slander. I surely am not going to join in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428488">Cotour</a>.</p>
<p>Cotour: Hell will freeze over before I ban anyone from BtB based on fake slanders like anon posted. Consider, I&#8217;ve spent the last three years documenting blacklisting of a similar kind, almost always for the same kinds of hateful undocumented slander. I surely am not going to join in.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate your position but things like this in my and your experience end pretty quickly, not much there. I encourage push back and testing.

NONE of them in my experience have much of anything backing them up, most are poorly prepared to go much further than throwing a stone or two. Once in a while one dimensional nuggets of truth here and there but not much more than that. It is a part of the illness. 

I deal with similar all the time; civil conversations end very fast because I will ask for substance and not self-fulfilling media agenda rumor or just name calling or finger pointing.

But not being allowed to post on BTB because someone on Facebook allegedly banned me? To my point, silly really.

Since I am at it: Related.

The other night at dinner a friend who&#039;s wife has banned her husband and me from talking politics in their house. Which I respect, unless a question is asked, and I respond in one or two sentences, usually a question and end it. (His wife is an excellent cook, don&#039;t want to piss her off  :)

He brings up NJ Senator Menendez and his being indicted (He is also from NJ). I laughed and told him the first thing that Menendez did was accuse the Democrat controlled government / DOJ of being racist because he is Hispanic! Which I thought was hilarious as did he.

Then he throws in: &quot;But Clearance Thomas and his wife Ginnie have to go!&quot;.

I asked, Why is that? And I know they are both Conservatives but so what? And I know that she let her opinions be known about Jan 6th. 

He goes on, &quot;She was involved in renting the &quot;coup busses&quot;. 

I asked, What are the coup busses? I have not heard about them.

&quot;She rented 80 busses to transport all of the people who tried to take over the government on Jan 6th.&quot;. (Really!? Looked like a riot to me)

I said that I had not heard of this and that I would look into it and get back to him on it. Sounded ridiculous to me, much like anon and his or her situation. 

And this is what I found:  https://knowyourmeme.com/news/satire-about-ginni-thomas-venmo-requests-for-coup-buses-is-interpreted-as-truth-until-debunked

He once told me that he was informed about politics because he reads the NYT&#039;s. I told him is not in the least bit informed about politics especially because it is the NYT&#039;s that he was reading for his information. Nor was he familiar with history and what is what concerning the Constitution and related issues.

Anon is much like my friend, but my friend only dares throw a small pebble now and then to test the waters when he cannot control himself. It never ends as he imagines it would end though and he becomes very quiet. Great guy, hard worker, considers himself a Liberal Democrat, knows what MESSNBC and CNN tells him he knows.

https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/not-your-fathers-liberal-democrat-party-this-will-destroy-new-york-city

Your fathers Liberal Democrat party is long dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your position but things like this in my and your experience end pretty quickly, not much there. I encourage push back and testing.</p>
<p>NONE of them in my experience have much of anything backing them up, most are poorly prepared to go much further than throwing a stone or two. Once in a while one dimensional nuggets of truth here and there but not much more than that. It is a part of the illness. </p>
<p>I deal with similar all the time; civil conversations end very fast because I will ask for substance and not self-fulfilling media agenda rumor or just name calling or finger pointing.</p>
<p>But not being allowed to post on BTB because someone on Facebook allegedly banned me? To my point, silly really.</p>
<p>Since I am at it: Related.</p>
<p>The other night at dinner a friend who&#8217;s wife has banned her husband and me from talking politics in their house. Which I respect, unless a question is asked, and I respond in one or two sentences, usually a question and end it. (His wife is an excellent cook, don&#8217;t want to piss her off  :)</p>
<p>He brings up NJ Senator Menendez and his being indicted (He is also from NJ). I laughed and told him the first thing that Menendez did was accuse the Democrat controlled government / DOJ of being racist because he is Hispanic! Which I thought was hilarious as did he.</p>
<p>Then he throws in: &#8220;But Clearance Thomas and his wife Ginnie have to go!&#8221;.</p>
<p>I asked, Why is that? And I know they are both Conservatives but so what? And I know that she let her opinions be known about Jan 6th. </p>
<p>He goes on, &#8220;She was involved in renting the &#8220;coup busses&#8221;. </p>
<p>I asked, What are the coup busses? I have not heard about them.</p>
<p>&#8220;She rented 80 busses to transport all of the people who tried to take over the government on Jan 6th.&#8221;. (Really!? Looked like a riot to me)</p>
<p>I said that I had not heard of this and that I would look into it and get back to him on it. Sounded ridiculous to me, much like anon and his or her situation. </p>
<p>And this is what I found:  <a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/news/satire-about-ginni-thomas-venmo-requests-for-coup-buses-is-interpreted-as-truth-until-debunked" rel="nofollow ugc">https://knowyourmeme.com/news/satire-about-ginni-thomas-venmo-requests-for-coup-buses-is-interpreted-as-truth-until-debunked</a></p>
<p>He once told me that he was informed about politics because he reads the NYT&#8217;s. I told him is not in the least bit informed about politics especially because it is the NYT&#8217;s that he was reading for his information. Nor was he familiar with history and what is what concerning the Constitution and related issues.</p>
<p>Anon is much like my friend, but my friend only dares throw a small pebble now and then to test the waters when he cannot control himself. It never ends as he imagines it would end though and he becomes very quiet. Great guy, hard worker, considers himself a Liberal Democrat, knows what MESSNBC and CNN tells him he knows.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/not-your-fathers-liberal-democrat-party-this-will-destroy-new-york-city" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/not-your-fathers-liberal-democrat-party-this-will-destroy-new-york-city</a></p>
<p>Your fathers Liberal Democrat party is long dead.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 17:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428470&quot;&gt;Cotour&lt;/a&gt;.

Cotour: I suspected as much. I have not banned anon as yet, but based on this one comment, his future here is quite dim. His one saving grace is that he well illustrates &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/obamas-legacy-of-hate/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;Obama&#039;s legacy of hate&lt;/a&gt;. Don&#039;t debate conservatives, slander them!

I however will not tolerate this behavior here on my webpage. Slander is far worse than insults, because it is not simply hurtful but includes lies that can damage the reputation of the victim.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428470">Cotour</a>.</p>
<p>Cotour: I suspected as much. I have not banned anon as yet, but based on this one comment, his future here is quite dim. His one saving grace is that he well illustrates <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/obamas-legacy-of-hate/" rel="ugc">Obama&#8217;s legacy of hate</a>. Don&#8217;t debate conservatives, slander them!</p>
<p>I however will not tolerate this behavior here on my webpage. Slander is far worse than insults, because it is not simply hurtful but includes lies that can damage the reputation of the victim.</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 15:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related: https://youtu.be/7pyA9B0Mua0?si=ZTR7eL1PZosTTC_w

I wonder if Daves family and friends have him blocked on Facebook?

Interesting, Dave sold his company to another company for $500 million, and they could not make it work for them.

Dave bought it back for $1.00.

I like Dave, he asks why someone is disparaging or lying about him, and no one can answer in a rational manner how they have arrived at their opinion. 

Four poles in the water:  https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.kUB9h204HfBUZN6obZ9Y6QHaE8?pid=ImgDet&#038;rs=1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related: <a href="https://youtu.be/7pyA9B0Mua0?si=ZTR7eL1PZosTTC_w" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/7pyA9B0Mua0?si=ZTR7eL1PZosTTC_w</a></p>
<p>I wonder if Daves family and friends have him blocked on Facebook?</p>
<p>Interesting, Dave sold his company to another company for $500 million, and they could not make it work for them.</p>
<p>Dave bought it back for $1.00.</p>
<p>I like Dave, he asks why someone is disparaging or lying about him, and no one can answer in a rational manner how they have arrived at their opinion. </p>
<p>Four poles in the water:  <a href="https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.kUB9h204HfBUZN6obZ9Y6QHaE8?pid=ImgDet&#038;rs=1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.kUB9h204HfBUZN6obZ9Y6QHaE8?pid=ImgDet&#038;rs=1</a></p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 14:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting.

I do not post on Facebook. Don&#039;t have a Facebook account.

My interpretation and version of the truth bothers someone.

&quot;It’s kind of you to let “Cotour” keep posting here after all his friends and family have blocked him on Facebook&quot;

Now how would the Zman understand that my &quot;Friends and family&quot; had me blocked on Facebook, and why in the world would that be any kind of criteria for not allowing my continued posting?

Why not just specifically tell me what you do not agree with that I post here on BTB and why and we can see if we can come to some agreement about disagreeing. 

Or convince me about why I am incorrect or confused. 

Please, what exactly bothers you about what I have to say?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.</p>
<p>I do not post on Facebook. Don&#8217;t have a Facebook account.</p>
<p>My interpretation and version of the truth bothers someone.</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s kind of you to let “Cotour” keep posting here after all his friends and family have blocked him on Facebook&#8221;</p>
<p>Now how would the Zman understand that my &#8220;Friends and family&#8221; had me blocked on Facebook, and why in the world would that be any kind of criteria for not allowing my continued posting?</p>
<p>Why not just specifically tell me what you do not agree with that I post here on BTB and why and we can see if we can come to some agreement about disagreeing. </p>
<p>Or convince me about why I am incorrect or confused. </p>
<p>Please, what exactly bothers you about what I have to say?</p>
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		By: Slaty Cleavage		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 13:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cotour is one of the most intelligent and prolific contributors on this site.  It&#039;s puzzling why someone would say such hurtful things about Contour without nefarious intent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cotour is one of the most intelligent and prolific contributors on this site.  It&#8217;s puzzling why someone would say such hurtful things about Contour without nefarious intent.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428452&quot;&gt;Robert Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt;.

anon: Moreover, you are located in Colorado, which is quite a distance from New York, where Cotour is based. I wonder how you even know about this stuff. Your IP address also shows up on two services that track spam.

As I say, explain yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428452">Robert Zimmerman</a>.</p>
<p>anon: Moreover, you are located in Colorado, which is quite a distance from New York, where Cotour is based. I wonder how you even know about this stuff. Your IP address also shows up on two services that track spam.</p>
<p>As I say, explain yourself.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428451&quot;&gt;anon&lt;/a&gt;.

anon: I have no idea if your claim is true, but if so, are you happy this person has been ostracized by friends and family? What you wrote appeared strongly like you were trying to cause pain to Cotour, for reasons that baffle me. Why?  And if you didn&#039;t mean to do that, then explain yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428451">anon</a>.</p>
<p>anon: I have no idea if your claim is true, but if so, are you happy this person has been ostracized by friends and family? What you wrote appeared strongly like you were trying to cause pain to Cotour, for reasons that baffle me. Why?  And if you didn&#8217;t mean to do that, then explain yourself.</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ugly..?&quot;

I didn&#039;t even use any naughty words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ugly..?&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even use any naughty words.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428448&quot;&gt;James Street&lt;/a&gt;.

James Street: Based on conversations I&#039;ve had with my Jewish Orthodox relatives, Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament recognizes the existence of evil, and in fact makes that existence a fundamental reality that all humans must deal with. We are not required to be good. God leaves us freedom of choice, but then lays out the rules (in the Old Testament) for avoiding that evil.

The devil is just a simple concept for defining and describing that evil. It is in us all, as is good. We must make a conscious choice (make a good book title) on which to follow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428448">James Street</a>.</p>
<p>James Street: Based on conversations I&#8217;ve had with my Jewish Orthodox relatives, Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament recognizes the existence of evil, and in fact makes that existence a fundamental reality that all humans must deal with. We are not required to be good. God leaves us freedom of choice, but then lays out the rules (in the Old Testament) for avoiding that evil.</p>
<p>The devil is just a simple concept for defining and describing that evil. It is in us all, as is good. We must make a conscious choice (make a good book title) on which to follow.</p>
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		By: James Street		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Street]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 05:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good for Pastor McClure and Calvary Chapel San Jose. Most of Christendom is either oblivious to what&#039;s going on or have joined the other side. But there are still 7,000 who have not bowed their knee to Baal.
 
Canadian psychologist Jordan Peterson is having a round table discussion series on his YouTube channel of the biblical book of Exodus with a half dozen theologians and religious scholars. One of the them, Dennis Prager who is Jewish, was asked if Jewish theology believes there are demonic beings. He replied:
&quot;I&#039;m a strict monotheist. There&#039;s one God, end of issue. There are no demons. I will say though to my own shock the last years in the western world have opened me up for the first time to the belief that there may be a devil. I&#039;m not kidding, I wish I were, there&#039;s no levity to what I&#039;m saying but it is almost impossible to explain the rejection of what is good and the celebration of what is wrong so radically and so quickly without recourse to some other force in the universe...&quot;
https://youtu.be/CDTFRTBWA28?t=3441
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Pastor McClure and Calvary Chapel San Jose. Most of Christendom is either oblivious to what&#8217;s going on or have joined the other side. But there are still 7,000 who have not bowed their knee to Baal.</p>
<p>Canadian psychologist Jordan Peterson is having a round table discussion series on his YouTube channel of the biblical book of Exodus with a half dozen theologians and religious scholars. One of the them, Dennis Prager who is Jewish, was asked if Jewish theology believes there are demonic beings. He replied:<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m a strict monotheist. There&#8217;s one God, end of issue. There are no demons. I will say though to my own shock the last years in the western world have opened me up for the first time to the belief that there may be a devil. I&#8217;m not kidding, I wish I were, there&#8217;s no levity to what I&#8217;m saying but it is almost impossible to explain the rejection of what is good and the celebration of what is wrong so radically and so quickly without recourse to some other force in the universe&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/CDTFRTBWA28?t=3441" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/CDTFRTBWA28?t=3441</a><br />
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 04:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428442&quot;&gt;anon&lt;/a&gt;.

anon: I find something about your comment very ugly. Why even say such things, other than to seed anger and hate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428442">anon</a>.</p>
<p>anon: I find something about your comment very ugly. Why even say such things, other than to seed anger and hate?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 04:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Bob, love your work.

It&#039;s kind of you to let &quot;Cotour&quot; keep posting here after all his friends and family have blocked him on Facebook]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob, love your work.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of you to let &#8220;Cotour&#8221; keep posting here after all his friends and family have blocked him on Facebook</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 17:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428407&quot;&gt;Man in the Middle&lt;/a&gt;.

Man in the Middle: This pro-bono legal firm is excellent, deserves support, as do all such similar legal firms that have come forward in the past few years to replace the leftist and failed ACLU. See my list here:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/where-to-get-legal-help-if-you-have-been-illegally-blacklisted/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;Where to get legal help if you have been illegally blacklisted&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428407">Man in the Middle</a>.</p>
<p>Man in the Middle: This pro-bono legal firm is excellent, deserves support, as do all such similar legal firms that have come forward in the past few years to replace the leftist and failed ACLU. See my list here:</p>
<p><a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/where-to-get-legal-help-if-you-have-been-illegally-blacklisted/" rel="ugc">Where to get legal help if you have been illegally blacklisted</a></p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428411&quot;&gt;Gerald Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;.

Gerald Wheeler: I disagree with you in only one way: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Everyone&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, not just Christians, should ignore and resist any attempted shut downs in the future. Tell these thugs to go to hell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428411">Gerald Wheeler</a>.</p>
<p>Gerald Wheeler: I disagree with you in only one way: <strong><em>Everyone</em></strong>, not just Christians, should ignore and resist any attempted shut downs in the future. Tell these thugs to go to hell.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 17:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428400&quot;&gt;Jim Harr&lt;/a&gt;.

Jim Harr: Point very well taken, especially since my entire conclusion has nothing to do with the Wuhan panic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-california-county-sued-for-using-cellphones-to-track-movements-of-church-goers/#comment-1428400">Jim Harr</a>.</p>
<p>Jim Harr: Point very well taken, especially since my entire conclusion has nothing to do with the Wuhan panic.</p>
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		By: Gerald Wheeler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All Christians should ignore and resist any attempted shut downs in the future. Those who did shut down last time are guilty of genocide. 25% of congregations of churches died away. Shame!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Christians should ignore and resist any attempted shut downs in the future. Those who did shut down last time are guilty of genocide. 25% of congregations of churches died away. Shame!</p>
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		By: Man in the Middle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 14:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t the only way in which Santa Clara County has been trying to punish Calvary Chapel, San Jose for staying open during COVID-19. Fortunately, the legal charity Advocates for Faith and Freedom have been defending them throughout, at no charge.
That&#039;s why I donate generously to that legal charity every year, and invite others to do so as well, here: https://faith-freedom.com/home]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the only way in which Santa Clara County has been trying to punish Calvary Chapel, San Jose for staying open during COVID-19. Fortunately, the legal charity Advocates for Faith and Freedom have been defending them throughout, at no charge.<br />
That&#8217;s why I donate generously to that legal charity every year, and invite others to do so as well, here: <a href="https://faith-freedom.com/home" rel="nofollow ugc">https://faith-freedom.com/home</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Harr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 09:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The highlighted sentence is the bottom line.&quot;

The highlighted sentence is NOT the bottom line. To say this is to imply that if Covid cases could be traced back to the church, then this tracking would be ok. It would not. It would make no difference whatsoever to the unconstitutional nature of this tracking. Tragically, even if the church is successful in its suit, this is simply one more step down the road to the tyranny to which we are heading. The genie is out of the bottle, and he&#039;s not going back in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The highlighted sentence is the bottom line.&#8221;</p>
<p>The highlighted sentence is NOT the bottom line. To say this is to imply that if Covid cases could be traced back to the church, then this tracking would be ok. It would not. It would make no difference whatsoever to the unconstitutional nature of this tracking. Tragically, even if the church is successful in its suit, this is simply one more step down the road to the tyranny to which we are heading. The genie is out of the bottle, and he&#8217;s not going back in.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 00:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, even if the church wins, the settlement comes out of us taxpayers. Oh how I wish the tyrants in charge would be held criminally, or at least civilly fiscally liable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, even if the church wins, the settlement comes out of us taxpayers. Oh how I wish the tyrants in charge would be held criminally, or at least civilly fiscally liable.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 22:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We lost the 4th Amendment due to the drug war and no-knock warrants...anti-gang ordinances criminalize associations. The right has its own blind spots same as the left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We lost the 4th Amendment due to the drug war and no-knock warrants&#8230;anti-gang ordinances criminalize associations. The right has its own blind spots same as the left.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a bunch of tyrannical banana republic BS.]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related: Its all related:

ITS A PROCESS NOT A PROBLEM

https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/its-a-process-not-a-problem

Trust the process, enjoy the journey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related: Its all related:</p>
<p>ITS A PROCESS NOT A PROBLEM</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/its-a-process-not-a-problem" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/its-a-process-not-a-problem</a></p>
<p>Trust the process, enjoy the journey.</p>
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