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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-students-win-major-settlement-with-college-for-denying-them-their-free-speech-rights/#comment-1340288&quot;&gt;GWB&lt;/a&gt;.

GWB: your comment did not go to moderation. It probably just took some time to post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/pushback-students-win-major-settlement-with-college-for-denying-them-their-free-speech-rights/#comment-1340288">GWB</a>.</p>
<p>GWB: your comment did not go to moderation. It probably just took some time to post.</p>
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		By: GWB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GWB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What did I do wrong that my comment went to moderated land? (Or, so it seems.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did I do wrong that my comment went to moderated land? (Or, so it seems.)</p>
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		By: GWB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GWB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;will continue to do so until these institutions and the individuals in charge are finally made to pay, in large amounts.&lt;/em&gt;
^^THIS^^

&lt;em&gt;Col Beausabre
June 28, 2022 at 2:55 pm

This minor, but shouldn’t that be “complete” and “imparts”?&lt;/em&gt;
Actually, no. It was a completed violation, not ongoing. They actually did gag him, not just threaten harm (to his rights).
And I think &quot;imports&quot; is in the sense of &quot;there is great import to this action&quot;.
Legal people talk funny sometimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>will continue to do so until these institutions and the individuals in charge are finally made to pay, in large amounts.</em><br />
^^THIS^^</p>
<p><em>Col Beausabre<br />
June 28, 2022 at 2:55 pm</p>
<p>This minor, but shouldn’t that be “complete” and “imparts”?</em><br />
Actually, no. It was a completed violation, not ongoing. They actually did gag him, not just threaten harm (to his rights).<br />
And I think &#8220;imports&#8221; is in the sense of &#8220;there is great import to this action&#8221;.<br />
Legal people talk funny sometimes.</p>
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		By: Gryunt Scarhide		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gryunt Scarhide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Campus policy prohibited using the free speech zone to say anything that “disturbs the peace and/or comfort of person(s).”&quot;

The heckler&#039;s veto enshrined as a college&#039;s avowed &quot;free speech&quot; policy. As with everything the Feds touch, it&#039;s turned into nothing more than a sinkhole for billions in made-up money, although one must admit it is serving the intended purpose: making young people dumb, dependent and delicate.

Burn it down, BURN IT ALL DOWN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Campus policy prohibited using the free speech zone to say anything that “disturbs the peace and/or comfort of person(s).”&#8221;</p>
<p>The heckler&#8217;s veto enshrined as a college&#8217;s avowed &#8220;free speech&#8221; policy. As with everything the Feds touch, it&#8217;s turned into nothing more than a sinkhole for billions in made-up money, although one must admit it is serving the intended purpose: making young people dumb, dependent and delicate.</p>
<p>Burn it down, BURN IT ALL DOWN.</p>
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		By: sippin_bourbon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 03:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting.

The court was 8-1. The sole dissent was Roberts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.</p>
<p>The court was 8-1. The sole dissent was Roberts.</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 02:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Petted it, fed it plenty of food it liked]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petted it, fed it plenty of food it liked</p>
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		By: Call Me Ishmael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Call Me Ishmael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 22:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Back when I rode my triceratops to class …&quot;

You managed to domesticate a triceratops?!  How?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Back when I rode my triceratops to class …&#8221;</p>
<p>You managed to domesticate a triceratops?!  How?!</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 22:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two points

1) That an American &quot;college&quot; should feel it needs to set up a &quot;free speech&quot; zone (which implies that speech is censored elsewhere on campus) explains a lot about what&#039;s wrong with &quot;higher education&quot; in this country. Back when I rode my triceratops to class, the entire campus was a free speech zone. In fact, we were taught that free and lively debate was a characteristic of American institutions of higher education

2) As an old Army officer, I am disturbed that Army ROTC continued to be offered and is still offered at such a place. I am sending a letter of protest to the CG of US Army Cadet Command with copies to the Chief of Staff and Secretary of the Army.  I doubt they will have any effect - probably ignored or, at most bucked to a junior member of his staff to write a mealymouthed reply - but feel I must make my voice heard about a place &quot;educating&quot; future officers of an Army that supposedly exists to protect the First Amendment. After all, the oath of office all members of the Army take begins with &quot;I swear I will protect, uphold and defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points</p>
<p>1) That an American &#8220;college&#8221; should feel it needs to set up a &#8220;free speech&#8221; zone (which implies that speech is censored elsewhere on campus) explains a lot about what&#8217;s wrong with &#8220;higher education&#8221; in this country. Back when I rode my triceratops to class, the entire campus was a free speech zone. In fact, we were taught that free and lively debate was a characteristic of American institutions of higher education</p>
<p>2) As an old Army officer, I am disturbed that Army ROTC continued to be offered and is still offered at such a place. I am sending a letter of protest to the CG of US Army Cadet Command with copies to the Chief of Staff and Secretary of the Army.  I doubt they will have any effect &#8211; probably ignored or, at most bucked to a junior member of his staff to write a mealymouthed reply &#8211; but feel I must make my voice heard about a place &#8220;educating&#8221; future officers of an Army that supposedly exists to protect the First Amendment. After all, the oath of office all members of the Army take begins with &#8220;I swear I will protect, uphold and defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States&#8221;</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;For purposes of this appeal, it is undisputed that Uzuegbunam experienced a completed violation of his constitutional rights when respondents enforced their speech policies against him. Because “every violation [of a right] imports damage,” nominal damages can redress Uzuegbunam’s injury even if he cannot or chooses not to quantify that harm in economic terms.&quot;

This minor, but shouldn&#039;t that be &quot;complete&quot; and &quot;imparts&quot;?

And, of course, hearty congratulations to Mr. Uzuegbunam, He apparently, actually learned something in college, his constitutional rights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For purposes of this appeal, it is undisputed that Uzuegbunam experienced a completed violation of his constitutional rights when respondents enforced their speech policies against him. Because “every violation [of a right] imports damage,” nominal damages can redress Uzuegbunam’s injury even if he cannot or chooses not to quantify that harm in economic terms.&#8221;</p>
<p>This minor, but shouldn&#8217;t that be &#8220;complete&#8221; and &#8220;imparts&#8221;?</p>
<p>And, of course, hearty congratulations to Mr. Uzuegbunam, He apparently, actually learned something in college, his constitutional rights.</p>
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