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		By: sippin_bourbon		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...all the parts for the spacecraft and the modules of the Tiangong-3 were built in China. &quot;

Good thing they are developing all that tech themselves, and not stealing it.
3 US companies sanctioned over blueprints sent to China
&quot;The companies — Quicksilver Manufacturing Inc., Rapid Cut LLC, and U.S. Prototype Inc. — provide 3-D printing services to customers that include manufacturers of space and defense technology. The Commerce Department says the customers would send blueprints and drawings to the companies that they wanted printed — and that the companies in turn would send that work to China, presumably as a way to cut costs.&quot;
https://apnews.com/article/technology-china-government-and-politics-business-05e85210c373b184074dd82f0e567361

I also remember the accusations of the Clinton admin allowing the transfer of Nuke and rocket tech to China in the 90s, by granting export licenses that resulted in major Chinese advances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;all the parts for the spacecraft and the modules of the Tiangong-3 were built in China. &#8221;</p>
<p>Good thing they are developing all that tech themselves, and not stealing it.<br />
3 US companies sanctioned over blueprints sent to China<br />
&#8220;The companies — Quicksilver Manufacturing Inc., Rapid Cut LLC, and U.S. Prototype Inc. — provide 3-D printing services to customers that include manufacturers of space and defense technology. The Commerce Department says the customers would send blueprints and drawings to the companies that they wanted printed — and that the companies in turn would send that work to China, presumably as a way to cut costs.&#8221;<br />
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<p>I also remember the accusations of the Clinton admin allowing the transfer of Nuke and rocket tech to China in the 90s, by granting export licenses that resulted in major Chinese advances.</p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 22:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good luck with that.


Its back to the 1970&#039;s for Russia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with that.</p>
<p>Its back to the 1970&#8217;s for Russia.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 22:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A bit of a rant since I follow both programs.

During the launch coverage of Shenzhou-14, the announcer proudly said that all the parts for the spacecraft and the modules of the Tiangong-3 were built in China.  China has bought all technology they could from Russia.  I would say that China has emulated Russia&#039;s space program and has exceeded it.  Now they want to emulate the West, specifically SpaceX in reusablility.

China wants money and will not pay Russia for their services.  Russia is the same.  If they do decide to work jointly, I am not sure China would accept the quality control issues like the cracks in the modules, drilled holes in the Soyuz, the problems with the Proton rocket, and the firing of the thrusters from Nauka almost a year ago.

Without ISS, there are no more Soyuz flights.  If Russia wants to put up their own station (ROSS), I think all they have left is a backup spare of Zarya, the power platform, a science (forgot the name) module, and some other modules that are used as simulators on the ground.  I don&#039;t see them putting up ROSS since they never came through on the Kliper and Orel spacecraft replacement of the Soyuz.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit of a rant since I follow both programs.</p>
<p>During the launch coverage of Shenzhou-14, the announcer proudly said that all the parts for the spacecraft and the modules of the Tiangong-3 were built in China.  China has bought all technology they could from Russia.  I would say that China has emulated Russia&#8217;s space program and has exceeded it.  Now they want to emulate the West, specifically SpaceX in reusablility.</p>
<p>China wants money and will not pay Russia for their services.  Russia is the same.  If they do decide to work jointly, I am not sure China would accept the quality control issues like the cracks in the modules, drilled holes in the Soyuz, the problems with the Proton rocket, and the firing of the thrusters from Nauka almost a year ago.</p>
<p>Without ISS, there are no more Soyuz flights.  If Russia wants to put up their own station (ROSS), I think all they have left is a backup spare of Zarya, the power platform, a science (forgot the name) module, and some other modules that are used as simulators on the ground.  I don&#8217;t see them putting up ROSS since they never came through on the Kliper and Orel spacecraft replacement of the Soyuz.</p>
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		By: Concerned		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 22:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The whole idea of “partnering” with the Russkies at the conclusion of Cold War I was to keep their rocket engineers employed and to discourage them from working with the Norks or the Mullahs. In retrospect, it doesn’t seem to have worked very well—those bad guys got the technology anyway and now the Russkies are looking for more handouts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole idea of “partnering” with the Russkies at the conclusion of Cold War I was to keep their rocket engineers employed and to discourage them from working with the Norks or the Mullahs. In retrospect, it doesn’t seem to have worked very well—those bad guys got the technology anyway and now the Russkies are looking for more handouts.</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 17:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Russia is looking for a new &quot;partner&quot; that has lots of money and would like Russia to boss them around about how to spend it. Line forms at the left, no cutting-in!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia is looking for a new &#8220;partner&#8221; that has lots of money and would like Russia to boss them around about how to spend it. Line forms at the left, no cutting-in!</p>
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