Comments on: Russians sign deal to fly two tourists to ISS https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/ Tue, 04 Aug 2020 04:10:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Brad https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085834 Tue, 04 Aug 2020 04:10:26 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085834 Correcting my own typo:

Orion has 84 man-days of life support, not 48 man-days of life support.

D’oh!

]]> By: Randy https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085823 Tue, 04 Aug 2020 00:30:17 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085823 Humans deposit waste at regular intervals..Just dont know how it is done….the longer
the flight…well you get the idea.

]]> By: sippin_bourbon https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085812 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:12:20 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085812 From Wikipedia:

a lido is a public outdoor swimming pool….

Well, if you want to step out and take a swim…

(/sarc)

]]> By: MDN https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085807 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 15:36:26 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085807 I am sure that being in perpetual zero G would be a fantastic experience, but until they have a tourist ship that can sport a Lido deck count me out for flights of a week or longer : )

]]> By: sippin_bourbon https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085802 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 12:50:41 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085802 I would think the duration would be as long as the service module is able to supply.
Instead of an empty truck, if they would water and air and power, it could go longer.

From a tourist point of view, with no where to go, 7 days is forever.
Better have a creative “cruise director”.

When there is a “hotel” in LEO, that may change.
A day to travel to, 4 or 5 days there, and a day to return.

I maintain hope that companies like Bigelow will recover. (Tho still not convinced on inflatables. And yes, I am aware of GenI and GenII still in orbit, albiet derelict).

]]> By: Robert Zimmerman https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085791 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 07:24:30 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085791 In reply to Brad.

Brad: NASA’s contract with SpaceX’s only requires Dragon to fly free in orbit for 2.5 days (with full crew of four) and seven months while docked with ISS.

SpaceX however I am sure designed the capsule for a much longer free flight duration. If they are not bringing cargo to or from ISS they would certainly have much more room to store supplies for a week-long mission.

Orion was required to have a 21 day lifespan free-flying, with full four person crew. If Lockheed Martin had the slightest interest in making money from it (which they do not), they could market it for tourist flights, and probably even try to team up with SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy to launch it (it is heavy and requires a bigger launch vehicle).

]]> By: Brad https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085790 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 07:16:14 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085790 “Space Adventures also has a deal with SpaceX to fly two tourists on a Dragon capsule on a week-plus long orbital mission (not docking with ISS).”

That makes me wonder… What is the standard life support capacity of the Dragon 2? 21 man-days? More? Less?

21 man-days would be enough for a tourist flight of 3 people for 7 days duration. The same duration and crew size as the Apollo 8 lunar mission.

It is my understanding the Orion spacecraft has life support for a crew of 4 for a period of 21 days (or in my reckoning 48 man-days of life support).

]]> By: Jay https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085774 Mon, 03 Aug 2020 03:00:08 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085774 Last time I heard it was over $20 million for tourists flights. We are still under contract to pay for one more Soyuz seat for $90 million: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2020/06/03/despite-spacex-success-nasa-will-pay-russia-90-million-to-take-us-astronaut-to-the-iss/#622fd6c7eacb

]]> By: jfm https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/russians-sign-deal-to-fly-two-tourists-to-iss/#comment-1085768 Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:45:21 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=67988#comment-1085768 Any idea what the Russians are charging to fly the tourists? If I had to guess it would be significantly less than what the Russians charged NASA.

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