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		By: wayne		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[on the other hand---

If you find a 1933 $20 dollar &quot;Double Eagle&quot; gold piece, call me immediately, and keep your mouth shut!

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/12813-judge-govt-can-keep-10-confiscated-double-eagles-worth-$80-million]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the other hand&#8212;</p>
<p>If you find a 1933 $20 dollar &#8220;Double Eagle&#8221; gold piece, call me immediately, and keep your mouth shut!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/12813-judge-govt-can-keep-10-confiscated-double-eagles-worth-$80-million" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/12813-judge-govt-can-keep-10-confiscated-double-eagles-worth-$80-million</a></p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ron--
Just to be clear, none of the astronaut&#039;s that walked on the Moon, pilfered any rocks for clandestine sale, at a later date. 

Check out this site, for an idea of what sorta &quot;souvenir type stuff&quot; was taken into space and/or to the surface of the Moon. (It&#039;s not a complete listing, but it&#039;s close.) 
http://www.spaceflownartifacts.com/guide.html

One of the few items that is even within reach of most collectors; flight flown Medallions, which number in the 100&#039;s per flight,  and the Astronaut&#039;s paid their own money to have them made. (They go for $10-30K each at auction.)

SEE:
http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2016/06/space-flown-silver-medals-soar-at-heritage.all.html

and I&#039;m seeing a &quot;Lunar Surface Safety Line&quot; from Apollo 14, ( originally 100 feet long) that was supposed to have been jettisoned and not returned.

&quot;After the mission, it was decided to use the surface-carried safety line in order to produce mementos of the flight to thank staff at the KSC for their efforts on the Apollo program. The line was cut into one inch lengths which were laminated onto 3¾&quot; x 2½&quot; presentation cards bearing the name of the person they were being awarded to. The cards were distributed with a thank you letter from the crew. Up to 1,200 of these presentation cards were produced by NASA. Despite this large number, very few examples actually appear for sale. This, combined with the fact that they are probably the only lunar surface EVA-carried artifacts available for less than five figures, means that they sell very well, fetching anywhere between $350 to $1016 at auction in recent years, with one exceptional case selling for $1969 in the January 2011 RRAuction Space sale.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron&#8211;<br />
Just to be clear, none of the astronaut&#8217;s that walked on the Moon, pilfered any rocks for clandestine sale, at a later date. </p>
<p>Check out this site, for an idea of what sorta &#8220;souvenir type stuff&#8221; was taken into space and/or to the surface of the Moon. (It&#8217;s not a complete listing, but it&#8217;s close.)<br />
<a href="http://www.spaceflownartifacts.com/guide.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.spaceflownartifacts.com/guide.html</a></p>
<p>One of the few items that is even within reach of most collectors; flight flown Medallions, which number in the 100&#8217;s per flight,  and the Astronaut&#8217;s paid their own money to have them made. (They go for $10-30K each at auction.)</p>
<p>SEE:<br />
<a href="http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2016/06/space-flown-silver-medals-soar-at-heritage.all.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2016/06/space-flown-silver-medals-soar-at-heritage.all.html</a></p>
<p>and I&#8217;m seeing a &#8220;Lunar Surface Safety Line&#8221; from Apollo 14, ( originally 100 feet long) that was supposed to have been jettisoned and not returned.</p>
<p>&#8220;After the mission, it was decided to use the surface-carried safety line in order to produce mementos of the flight to thank staff at the KSC for their efforts on the Apollo program. The line was cut into one inch lengths which were laminated onto 3¾&#8221; x 2½&#8221; presentation cards bearing the name of the person they were being awarded to. The cards were distributed with a thank you letter from the crew. Up to 1,200 of these presentation cards were produced by NASA. Despite this large number, very few examples actually appear for sale. This, combined with the fact that they are probably the only lunar surface EVA-carried artifacts available for less than five figures, means that they sell very well, fetching anywhere between $350 to $1016 at auction in recent years, with one exceptional case selling for $1969 in the January 2011 RRAuction Space sale.&#8221;</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2017 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ron--
Slight correction:
The federal government, in it&#039;s infinite wisdom and efficiency, sold the (empty) sample return bag as scrap, at a public GSA auction, 2-3 years ago. 
A woman bid $950 for it, won that auction, and took it home. Later on the feds decided they wanted it back and sued the woman. The Judge ruled she bought it legally and it was hers.
 No astronaut&#039;s involved in, or received money from, this specific transaction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron&#8211;<br />
Slight correction:<br />
The federal government, in it&#8217;s infinite wisdom and efficiency, sold the (empty) sample return bag as scrap, at a public GSA auction, 2-3 years ago.<br />
A woman bid $950 for it, won that auction, and took it home. Later on the feds decided they wanted it back and sued the woman. The Judge ruled she bought it legally and it was hers.<br />
 No astronaut&#8217;s involved in, or received money from, this specific transaction.</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My recollection is that none of the artifacts from the moon was to be possessed by the astronauts.  The astronauts are paid for their services by tax payers.  The &quot;contingency&quot; cache constitutes theft and any money generated from the sale of such for private ownership should be returned to tax payers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recollection is that none of the artifacts from the moon was to be possessed by the astronauts.  The astronauts are paid for their services by tax payers.  The &#8220;contingency&#8221; cache constitutes theft and any money generated from the sale of such for private ownership should be returned to tax payers.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[btw-- for pictures of, and prices realized at, the July 20th Sotheby&#039;s &quot;Space Exploration&quot; auction, visit-- 
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2017/space-exploration-n09759.html

way cool-- the &quot;flown flight-plan for Apollo 13&quot; signed by all 3 astronaut&#039;s  and with extensive doodling &#038; artwork, went for $275K.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw&#8211; for pictures of, and prices realized at, the July 20th Sotheby&#8217;s &#8220;Space Exploration&#8221; auction, visit&#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2017/space-exploration-n09759.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2017/space-exploration-n09759.html</a></p>
<p>way cool&#8211; the &#8220;flown flight-plan for Apollo 13&#8221; signed by all 3 astronaut&#8217;s  and with extensive doodling &amp; artwork, went for $275K.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[excuse me.... it was &quot;$1,812,500&quot; 
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072017a-sothebys-space-auction-moon-bag.html

&quot;The moon dust-stained &quot;lunar sample return&quot; pouch, which Apollo 11 commander Neil Armstrong used to store a small &quot;contingency&quot; cache of material from Tranquility Base, sold for $1,812,500 million at Sotheby&#039;s New York on Thursday (July 20), the 48th anniversary of the Apollo 11 first moon landing. The bag&#039;s sale was part of Sotheby&#039;s first auction to focus on artifacts from NASA&#039;s space missions.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excuse me&#8230;. it was &#8220;$1,812,500&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072017a-sothebys-space-auction-moon-bag.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072017a-sothebys-space-auction-moon-bag.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The moon dust-stained &#8220;lunar sample return&#8221; pouch, which Apollo 11 commander Neil Armstrong used to store a small &#8220;contingency&#8221; cache of material from Tranquility Base, sold for $1,812,500 million at Sotheby&#8217;s New York on Thursday (July 20), the 48th anniversary of the Apollo 11 first moon landing. The bag&#8217;s sale was part of Sotheby&#8217;s first auction to focus on artifacts from NASA&#8217;s space missions.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is sad stuff.

Sounds similar to the recent theft of a massive gold coin issued by the Royal Canadian Mint,  stolen from a museum in Germany.
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/03/27/thieves-in-berlin-make-off-with-massive-canadian-gold-coin-worth-millions.html
(100 kilograms of 999.99 purity gold. Perpetrators have been arrested. German authorities believe it has already been melted down and shipped out of Germany.)

On a slightly more upbeat note--

That woman who bought the moon rock collection bag from the GSA sale, only to be hounded later on by the Feds, sold it at auction recently for $1.4 million.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sad stuff.</p>
<p>Sounds similar to the recent theft of a massive gold coin issued by the Royal Canadian Mint,  stolen from a museum in Germany.<br />
<a href="https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/03/27/thieves-in-berlin-make-off-with-massive-canadian-gold-coin-worth-millions.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/03/27/thieves-in-berlin-make-off-with-massive-canadian-gold-coin-worth-millions.html</a><br />
(100 kilograms of 999.99 purity gold. Perpetrators have been arrested. German authorities believe it has already been melted down and shipped out of Germany.)</p>
<p>On a slightly more upbeat note&#8211;</p>
<p>That woman who bought the moon rock collection bag from the GSA sale, only to be hounded later on by the Feds, sold it at auction recently for $1.4 million.</p>
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