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		By: BSJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 23:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And I forcefully uncoupled the OnStar antenna in my car. And the microphone was ripped out and turned into a power port...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I forcefully uncoupled the OnStar antenna in my car. And the microphone was ripped out and turned into a power port&#8230;</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m old enough to find it strange to be talking TO the phone, not with someone THROUGH the phone. I&#039;ve given it an insulting nick name it doesn&#039;t understand, just to prove who&#039;s the boss (to make sure, because I&#039;m getting worried).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m old enough to find it strange to be talking TO the phone, not with someone THROUGH the phone. I&#8217;ve given it an insulting nick name it doesn&#8217;t understand, just to prove who&#8217;s the boss (to make sure, because I&#8217;m getting worried).</p>
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		By: BSJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 13:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I for one, can&#039;t stand talking to computers. 

Looked cool on Star Trek. Sucks in the real world!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one, can&#8217;t stand talking to computers. </p>
<p>Looked cool on Star Trek. Sucks in the real world!</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2017 02:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve given up privacy. Anyone who cares can hack my fridge, I&#039;m just not popular enough for that to be a practical problem. People like Musk worry about AI. Well, stupid computers is enough of a threat already with our dependence and their unpredictable malfunctions. We treat computing as our children. It will be a relief the day we can treat them as grown up friends.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve given up privacy. Anyone who cares can hack my fridge, I&#8217;m just not popular enough for that to be a practical problem. People like Musk worry about AI. Well, stupid computers is enough of a threat already with our dependence and their unpredictable malfunctions. We treat computing as our children. It will be a relief the day we can treat them as grown up friends.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 19:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in the &quot;useful applications in some situations, but you cannot really trust any of them,&quot; camp.

And some of this stuff definitely falls into the &quot;Ideas so Great they have to be made Mandatory&quot; realm, in that they are inherently intrusive by their very application.

I have a (newer) digital electric-meter, installed by my utility.  
Now, they are offering to charge me time-of-day differential rates, but to participate, they want control of my A/C and will install yet another device to manipulate the coil &#038; pump, and internal blower.
Nefarious stuff aside, the trade off is just not there for me. 

My auto insurance (State Farm) is offering to give me a 5% discount, if I install a GPS device in my car. Again, the trade-off just isn&#039;t there for me. 

And, something I find incredibly ironic where I live now, my trash guy charges extra for &quot;recycling,&quot; if I sort my trash for collection, they charge me more, a lot more.  (needless to say, it all goes in the trash and I pay less.) 
In contrast, --different City and they gave us a monthly credit if we did sort/recycle. (which was sorta creepy-esque &#039;cuz they kept track of who-did &#038; who-didn&#039;t every week.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the &#8220;useful applications in some situations, but you cannot really trust any of them,&#8221; camp.</p>
<p>And some of this stuff definitely falls into the &#8220;Ideas so Great they have to be made Mandatory&#8221; realm, in that they are inherently intrusive by their very application.</p>
<p>I have a (newer) digital electric-meter, installed by my utility.<br />
Now, they are offering to charge me time-of-day differential rates, but to participate, they want control of my A/C and will install yet another device to manipulate the coil &amp; pump, and internal blower.<br />
Nefarious stuff aside, the trade off is just not there for me. </p>
<p>My auto insurance (State Farm) is offering to give me a 5% discount, if I install a GPS device in my car. Again, the trade-off just isn&#8217;t there for me. </p>
<p>And, something I find incredibly ironic where I live now, my trash guy charges extra for &#8220;recycling,&#8221; if I sort my trash for collection, they charge me more, a lot more.  (needless to say, it all goes in the trash and I pay less.)<br />
In contrast, &#8211;different City and they gave us a monthly credit if we did sort/recycle. (which was sorta creepy-esque &#8216;cuz they kept track of who-did &amp; who-didn&#8217;t every week.)</p>
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		By: Sandra Warren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I concur exactly with your last paragraph, Bob.  At best, when problems occur, it will likely create a cascade of non-functionality.  At worst, others will control what you can and can&#039;t do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur exactly with your last paragraph, Bob.  At best, when problems occur, it will likely create a cascade of non-functionality.  At worst, others will control what you can and can&#8217;t do.</p>
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		By: Orion314		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 18:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think smart TV&#039;s are one of the dumbest idea&#039;s, I had to do a bit of hunting for a dumb 4K tv, I have a smart blue ray player, in case I want to access Netflix or utube, but I can un power that with ease,. My guess is that buying a non-smart tv will soon become difficult , if not impossible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think smart TV&#8217;s are one of the dumbest idea&#8217;s, I had to do a bit of hunting for a dumb 4K tv, I have a smart blue ray player, in case I want to access Netflix or utube, but I can un power that with ease,. My guess is that buying a non-smart tv will soon become difficult , if not impossible.</p>
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		By: Chris R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 18:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find the &quot;connected device&quot; dialogue very fascinating.  There are three camps:  Mr. Zimmerman&#039;s (completely against unnecessary connected devices), my camp (they serve a purpose but I am very skeptical and weary), and the &quot;I don&#039;t care about privacy&quot; camp (the name speaks for itself.)

I like being in the middle.  I certainly see the idealogical benefits of an everything-connected society.  But I, like Mr. Zimmerman, refuse to participate in it due to privacy and security concerns.  

What I am saying is, I don&#039;t think it is correct to shun the technological movement in this direction.  We should not close the doors on connected devices because of the possible benefits.  On the other hand, I think there is much work to be done to make the devices of the future safe for everyone (if it is even possible to make them safe).

On a related note - watching employers surgically insert microchips inside their employees makes me want to vomit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the &#8220;connected device&#8221; dialogue very fascinating.  There are three camps:  Mr. Zimmerman&#8217;s (completely against unnecessary connected devices), my camp (they serve a purpose but I am very skeptical and weary), and the &#8220;I don&#8217;t care about privacy&#8221; camp (the name speaks for itself.)</p>
<p>I like being in the middle.  I certainly see the idealogical benefits of an everything-connected society.  But I, like Mr. Zimmerman, refuse to participate in it due to privacy and security concerns.  </p>
<p>What I am saying is, I don&#8217;t think it is correct to shun the technological movement in this direction.  We should not close the doors on connected devices because of the possible benefits.  On the other hand, I think there is much work to be done to make the devices of the future safe for everyone (if it is even possible to make them safe).</p>
<p>On a related note &#8211; watching employers surgically insert microchips inside their employees makes me want to vomit.</p>
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