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		By: Star Bird		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/spacex-leases-second-launchpad-at-vandenberg/#comment-1410077</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Star Bird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2023 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How   much is  China    getting   from this  whole thing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How   much is  China    getting   from this  whole thing?</p>
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		By: M Puckett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M Puckett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2023 17:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought SLC-6 was originally built for Titan-MOL and converted to the Shuttle?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought SLC-6 was originally built for Titan-MOL and converted to the Shuttle?</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2023 07:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Delta IV was said to have broken the curse...but just in case...hey Bezos! Hudson and  CNBC&#039;s Cramer are bullish on it. Run Elon! RUN! Let New Glenn turn into a pillar of salt...the Heckawi dead demand it be a casino. Ramtha has spoken.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delta IV was said to have broken the curse&#8230;but just in case&#8230;hey Bezos! Hudson and  CNBC&#8217;s Cramer are bullish on it. Run Elon! RUN! Let New Glenn turn into a pillar of salt&#8230;the Heckawi dead demand it be a casino. Ramtha has spoken.</p>
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		By: pawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 20:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh god, SLC-6 and the Shuttle. What a boondoggle that was. 

Cost billions of dollars to satisfy the USAF and nothing happened other than a booster stacking as I recall.

Just as well as there was a lot of concern about H2 build up the the tunnel if there was an on pad abort.

Completely abandoned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god, SLC-6 and the Shuttle. What a boondoggle that was. </p>
<p>Cost billions of dollars to satisfy the USAF and nothing happened other than a booster stacking as I recall.</p>
<p>Just as well as there was a lot of concern about H2 build up the the tunnel if there was an on pad abort.</p>
<p>Completely abandoned.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 18:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/spacex-leases-second-launchpad-at-vandenberg/#comment-1409783&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;.

Jay: Yes, the Space Force has transferred the lease for the landing sites from SpaceX to two of four rocket startups. See:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/space-force-assigns-launchpads-to-four-smallsat-rocket-startups/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;Space Force assigns launchpads to four smallsat rocket startups&lt;/a&gt;

What I failed to make clear in that post (mostly because it wasn&#039;t initially confirmed) was that the new leases took from SpaceX its landing sites.

Diane: As for the third SpaceX launchpad at Kennedy, I am counting the Starship/Superheavy pad. It might not be ready now, but it is being built, and I expect work to accelerate fast considering the regulatory issues that might block flights from Boca Chica for awhile.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/spacex-leases-second-launchpad-at-vandenberg/#comment-1409783">Jay</a>.</p>
<p>Jay: Yes, the Space Force has transferred the lease for the landing sites from SpaceX to two of four rocket startups. See:</p>
<p><a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/space-force-assigns-launchpads-to-four-smallsat-rocket-startups/" rel="ugc">Space Force assigns launchpads to four smallsat rocket startups</a></p>
<p>What I failed to make clear in that post (mostly because it wasn&#8217;t initially confirmed) was that the new leases took from SpaceX its landing sites.</p>
<p>Diane: As for the third SpaceX launchpad at Kennedy, I am counting the Starship/Superheavy pad. It might not be ready now, but it is being built, and I expect work to accelerate fast considering the regulatory issues that might block flights from Boca Chica for awhile.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Diane,
They had to give up 13?  Yes, you are correct, it is a landing area.   Did they lose the lease?  That is new to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Diane,<br />
They had to give up 13?  Yes, you are correct, it is a landing area.   Did they lose the lease?  That is new to me.</p>
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		By: Diane E Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane E Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is the third launch site in Florida? There&#039;s 39A and 40. 13 doesn&#039;t count, because it&#039;s only been used for landings, and they have to give that one up. I don&#039;t think we can count the Starship pad at 39A, either, since it&#039;s not close to finished.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the third launch site in Florida? There&#8217;s 39A and 40. 13 doesn&#8217;t count, because it&#8217;s only been used for landings, and they have to give that one up. I don&#8217;t think we can count the Starship pad at 39A, either, since it&#8217;s not close to finished.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/spacex-leases-second-launchpad-at-vandenberg/#comment-1409773&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;.

Jay: I had heard somewhere previously that Blue Origin was also vying for the lease for SLC-6. Apparently, the Space Force decided to give it to SpaceX instead because it wants actual launches to occur there, and no one expects that much from Blue Origin at this point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/spacex-leases-second-launchpad-at-vandenberg/#comment-1409773">Jay</a>.</p>
<p>Jay: I had heard somewhere previously that Blue Origin was also vying for the lease for SLC-6. Apparently, the Space Force decided to give it to SpaceX instead because it wants actual launches to occur there, and no one expects that much from Blue Origin at this point.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 16:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So my source down at Vandy was not surprised by this since ULA abandoned SLC-6.  The Space Force personnel down there had to secure and cleanup that location.  They were not happy with ULA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my source down at Vandy was not surprised by this since ULA abandoned SLC-6.  The Space Force personnel down there had to secure and cleanup that location.  They were not happy with ULA.</p>
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