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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dick E. &#038; Dave G.;
Fully understand your views &#038; not completely unsympathetic with that approach.
[I personally support private Space &#038; a degree of Public Space, and would pay more taxes if I was asked &#038; rational plans were proposed.]
&#062;If it was just putting up a few traffic-signals, extending the water-main/sewer-system, putting in that left-turn lane in front of the spaceport, adding a few street-lights, laying some sidewalks, etc., it would still be a degree of cronyism.
-It may or may not be within the realm of government but that&#039;s a huge ball-o-yarn in itself. (I&#039;m not a complete purist as far as Libertarian Thought, and accept that roads &#038; certain infrastructure projects are well within that realm, assuming the local people acquiesce via local/state representation in advance.
-If the people in that County where the spaceport is located, want to pay more taxes specifically for the spaceport, I have no problem with that. And if the people of Texas want to do so, collectively, they do have that option.
My only real point, and it is hair-splitting to a measure, is that &quot;this sorta stuff&quot; is, as Edward notes, subsidizing-stuff, and although I am sympathetic, this is exactly the slippery-slope we fell into 100 years ago, and it only gets more pervasive. 
We crossed a line &#038; can now completely rationalize spending for stuff, whether we actually have the cash-on-hand or not, or if it&#039;s a &quot;good idea&quot; or not.

I have no clue exactly who promised what, to SpaceX, and if they were guaranteed certain things, Texas needs to follow-through. 
We do a huge amount of this type of thing in Michigan and it&#039;s not as efficient or rational as it might seem on it&#039;s face.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick E. &amp; Dave G.;<br />
Fully understand your views &amp; not completely unsympathetic with that approach.<br />
[I personally support private Space &amp; a degree of Public Space, and would pay more taxes if I was asked &amp; rational plans were proposed.]<br />
&gt;If it was just putting up a few traffic-signals, extending the water-main/sewer-system, putting in that left-turn lane in front of the spaceport, adding a few street-lights, laying some sidewalks, etc., it would still be a degree of cronyism.<br />
-It may or may not be within the realm of government but that&#8217;s a huge ball-o-yarn in itself. (I&#8217;m not a complete purist as far as Libertarian Thought, and accept that roads &amp; certain infrastructure projects are well within that realm, assuming the local people acquiesce via local/state representation in advance.<br />
-If the people in that County where the spaceport is located, want to pay more taxes specifically for the spaceport, I have no problem with that. And if the people of Texas want to do so, collectively, they do have that option.<br />
My only real point, and it is hair-splitting to a measure, is that &#8220;this sorta stuff&#8221; is, as Edward notes, subsidizing-stuff, and although I am sympathetic, this is exactly the slippery-slope we fell into 100 years ago, and it only gets more pervasive.<br />
We crossed a line &amp; can now completely rationalize spending for stuff, whether we actually have the cash-on-hand or not, or if it&#8217;s a &#8220;good idea&#8221; or not.</p>
<p>I have no clue exactly who promised what, to SpaceX, and if they were guaranteed certain things, Texas needs to follow-through.<br />
We do a huge amount of this type of thing in Michigan and it&#8217;s not as efficient or rational as it might seem on it&#8217;s face.</p>
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		By: Dave G		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2016 10:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It sounds like SpaceX is asking for the money they were promised when they were making the decision to locate there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like SpaceX is asking for the money they were promised when they were making the decision to locate there.</p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2016 02:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What SpaceX is asking for seems to be increased water delivery capacity and road improvements.  These are both &quot;services&quot; many governments regard as natural monopolies and their exclusive jurisdiction.  It seems entirely reasonable to ask government to actually do what it has taken to be its exclusive job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What SpaceX is asking for seems to be increased water delivery capacity and road improvements.  These are both &#8220;services&#8221; many governments regard as natural monopolies and their exclusive jurisdiction.  It seems entirely reasonable to ask government to actually do what it has taken to be its exclusive job.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2016 01:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was recently reminded that whatever you subsidize you get more of.  Is it worth government subsidizing industry in order to get more of it?  Don&#039;t we just get government choosing winners and losers?  Do some of those winners eventually lose, as Solyndra did?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently reminded that whatever you subsidize you get more of.  Is it worth government subsidizing industry in order to get more of it?  Don&#8217;t we just get government choosing winners and losers?  Do some of those winners eventually lose, as Solyndra did?</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2016 23:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently, everything is bigger, in Texas!
- &quot;Texas Enterprise Fund,&quot; is a $19 billion State &quot;Fund&quot; that &quot;invests&quot; in &quot;public-private partnerships.&quot; (Michigan does similar crazy stuff, so not picking on Texas alone.)

Have to go with Mr. Z on this one. 
Although I like Space &#038; can&#039;t argue with the success SpaceX has achieved, it&#039;s corporate-welfare to build their infrastructure. The &quot;government affairs&quot; director is just playing Florida against Texas. (And it&#039;s sad when SpaceX or any Company, has to have a person devoted to &quot;governmental-affairs.&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, everything is bigger, in Texas!<br />
&#8211; &#8220;Texas Enterprise Fund,&#8221; is a $19 billion State &#8220;Fund&#8221; that &#8220;invests&#8221; in &#8220;public-private partnerships.&#8221; (Michigan does similar crazy stuff, so not picking on Texas alone.)</p>
<p>Have to go with Mr. Z on this one.<br />
Although I like Space &amp; can&#8217;t argue with the success SpaceX has achieved, it&#8217;s corporate-welfare to build their infrastructure. The &#8220;government affairs&#8221; director is just playing Florida against Texas. (And it&#8217;s sad when SpaceX or any Company, has to have a person devoted to &#8220;governmental-affairs.&#8221;)</p>
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		By: David M. Cook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David M. Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I were a Texas native, I would demand this support!  Just think, in few hundred years the human story will be describing how we left Earth from Texas &#038; populated the entire solar system.  How does that sound to ya&#039;all?  Is that a big enough story for Texans to tell?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were a Texas native, I would demand this support!  Just think, in few hundred years the human story will be describing how we left Earth from Texas &amp; populated the entire solar system.  How does that sound to ya&#8217;all?  Is that a big enough story for Texans to tell?</p>
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