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		By: Questioner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 09:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some news from Elon Musk:

Musks says: Starship gets additional three raptor (vacuum) engines, that is a total of nine raptors per Starship. Sparship&#039;s propellant tanks are being extended to increase propellant mass.

Here some fun stuff sent by Musk:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1472052839316963329]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some news from Elon Musk:</p>
<p>Musks says: Starship gets additional three raptor (vacuum) engines, that is a total of nine raptors per Starship. Sparship&#8217;s propellant tanks are being extended to increase propellant mass.</p>
<p>Here some fun stuff sent by Musk:</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/i/status/1472052839316963329" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/i/status/1472052839316963329</a></p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2021 02:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope they do not endanger the muddy mud skipper.

I protected cartoon species.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they do not endanger the muddy mud skipper.</p>
<p>I protected cartoon species.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alton and Matt,
You are both right.  It does look like it is further north of those sites.  I tried to search for a good map that had those past sites listed and so far this is the most recent one that does not cut-off at LC-39B &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.americaspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Vertical-Launch-Areas-.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alton and Matt,<br />
You are both right.  It does look like it is further north of those sites.  I tried to search for a good map that had those past sites listed and so far this is the most recent one that does not cut-off at LC-39B <a href="https://www.americaspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Vertical-Launch-Areas-.png" rel="nofollow ugc">here.</a></p>
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		By: Matt in AZ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt in AZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jay:  LC-49 looks to be just a little north of the formerly planned LC-39C &#038; D sites.

Jeff:  with a planned fleet of hundreds of Starships, the Phobos and Deimos platforms will only be a portion of what is needed.  I&#039;m counting 7 launch towers announced so far:

2 @ Boca Chica
1 @ LC-39A
2 @ LC-49
2 Floating Platforms

I expect there will eventually be a Vandenberg site, and perhaps even Indonesia (there have been negotiations).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay:  LC-49 looks to be just a little north of the formerly planned LC-39C &amp; D sites.</p>
<p>Jeff:  with a planned fleet of hundreds of Starships, the Phobos and Deimos platforms will only be a portion of what is needed.  I&#8217;m counting 7 launch towers announced so far:</p>
<p>2 @ Boca Chica<br />
1 @ LC-39A<br />
2 @ LC-49<br />
2 Floating Platforms</p>
<p>I expect there will eventually be a Vandenberg site, and perhaps even Indonesia (there have been negotiations).</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 19:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good news. I think post-Saturn concepts were slated to go there anyway, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news. I think post-Saturn concepts were slated to go there anyway, right?</p>
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		By: Alton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 19:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jay:

That does looks to be the areas on the Sixties Maps that were listed as Pad 39C and &quot; future Nova Class Launch sites..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay:</p>
<p>That does looks to be the areas on the Sixties Maps that were listed as Pad 39C and &#8221; future Nova Class Launch sites..</p>
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		By: Skunk Bucket		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skunk Bucket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 19:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I find intriguing is the portion of the map labeled &quot;Horizontal Launch Area.&quot; Is there some sort of new rocket that needs such a thing, or are they thinking of flying Roc or Cosmic Girl from the Cape. If so, I would have imagined them using the very long existing runway there.

And yes, why not use Phobos and Diemos instead of building land-based launch facilities?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find intriguing is the portion of the map labeled &#8220;Horizontal Launch Area.&#8221; Is there some sort of new rocket that needs such a thing, or are they thinking of flying Roc or Cosmic Girl from the Cape. If so, I would have imagined them using the very long existing runway there.</p>
<p>And yes, why not use Phobos and Diemos instead of building land-based launch facilities?</p>
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		By: jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 18:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why two sites at Kennedy? Why not one at Kennedy and use the ex oil platforms Phobos and Diemos?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why two sites at Kennedy? Why not one at Kennedy and use the ex oil platforms Phobos and Diemos?</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So the sites for LC-49 and the proposed one north of it, weren&#039;t those the never built sites for LC-39C and D for the Saturn V?  

I am sure paperwork is a formality since these are brownfield sites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the sites for LC-49 and the proposed one north of it, weren&#8217;t those the never built sites for LC-39C and D for the Saturn V?  </p>
<p>I am sure paperwork is a formality since these are brownfield sites.</p>
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