Comments on: SpaceX requests 43 acres of nearby Boca Chica State Park, offering to expand another park by 477 acres

By: Jester Naybor

Jester Naybor — Fri, 19 Jan 2024 03:04:51 +0000

I always wonder why environmental groups do not buy up land like this to “save” it from developers?

Since it’s “the right thing to do”, they think that EVERYONE should be compelled to use their money to do it,

Just as “sanctuary cities” expect the rest of the nation to accept illegals – and get so upset when the rest of us take them at their word instead, and send the illegals to their “sanctuaries”.

Privatize the virtue signals … socialize the burden..

By: pzatchok

pzatchok — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 03:41:19 +0000

Robert Pratt

I know of a lot of conservation groups that do good things with their money and lands.

That is why I called the other groups environmentalists.

In fact i am a member of a local conservation club. Over 200 acres they own and manage plus over 300 more acres leased from farmers for hunting.

One of the first conservation groups in the US was to save waterfowl for hunting.

By: David Eastman

David Eastman — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 23:53:21 +0000

I was reading an article approximately a year ago where there was a lawsuit and lots of lobbying happening involving such a land purchase organized by the Sierra Club and several foundations. Turns out they had mostly arranged a deal for a major landowner to swap a bunch of their land with some other state owned properties and donate the exchanged, previously state-owned properties to a conservation trust. And, of course, take all sorts of charitable donation and other tax credits in the process. And then it was determined that a lot of the land being “donated” had highly contaminated long decommissioned mines, and a lot of the land being swapped for that land was actually quite valuable, and the deal fell apart. The lawsuits were after that point, the Sierra club and such were proclaiming that this was a done deal, for the good of mankind, and needed to go through regardless, ignore the fact that their wealthy backers were going to be exchanging huge liabilities for very valuable land, only some of which they were actually obligated to donate to the conservationists…

By: Robert Pratt

Robert Pratt — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 23:16:26 +0000

pzatchok: “I always wonder why environmental groups do not buy up land like this to “save” it from developers?”

They do, regularly. There are many different conservation groups, etc. that buy up land to protect it and the groups are not all leftwing environmentalists. Several hunting groups buy land for this purpose.

By: TL

TL — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:47:10 +0000

pzatchok – “I always wonder why environmental groups do not buy up land like this to “save” it from developers?”

Land swaps of that type are pretty common in the forest products industry. Very large owners of forest lands always have a land sales team devoted to selling or swapping land tracts deemed environmentally or culturally sensitive. The difficulty being that environmental groups often want the lands donated instead of paying fair market value. Land swaps where the state gets involved in exchanging a similar valued but less sensitive property are a way all sides can win. Especially since they are usually tax neutral in a way a sale wouldn’t be.

By: Jhon B

Jhon B — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 21:37:56 +0000

In any sane world, this would be a fantastic deal for Texas. Too bad, we don’t live in a sane world anymore. A small few whack jobs, will screw it up for the masses.

By: pzatchok

pzatchok — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 21:35:52 +0000

The state was selling wildlife land on the coast around there a few years ago. Cheap. Real cheap.

The problem was that it could never be developed on and you could not stop anyone from using it. No hunting.
Oh You could drive a house boat into it but you could not make it permanent.

I bet Musk bought up a bunch just for this contingency.

I always wonder why environmental groups do not buy up land like this to “save” it from developers?