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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 05:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/starhopper-has-hopped/#comment-1069279&quot;&gt;Diane Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.

Diane Wilson: I as noted about two months ago (with no change since), we have heard nothing about BE-4 since last spring. Very worrying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/starhopper-has-hopped/#comment-1069279">Diane Wilson</a>.</p>
<p>Diane Wilson: I as noted about two months ago (with no change since), we have heard nothing about BE-4 since last spring. Very worrying.</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 03:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And when the engine fires, you have roast goat! Sheer Genius!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when the engine fires, you have roast goat! Sheer Genius!!</p>
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		By: Mark McSherry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark McSherry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;A rocket being built and tested in an open field.&quot;  Why that&#039;s right out the opening chapters of MISS PICKERELL GOES TO MARS (1951)!

&quot;At the far end of Miss Pickerell’s pasture, a huge, silver-colored structure gleamed in the late-afternoon sun. It was shaped a little like a pencil, but it was much fatter, and had several wide fins at the bottom. Even from here, Miss Pickerell could see that the thing was enormous. It was far bigger than any airplane Miss Pickerell had ever seen or ever heard about. And instead of resting flat on the ground like an airplane, it pointed straight up in the air.

&quot;A long thin ladder extended down from the thing to the ground, and even as she looked, Miss Pickerell saw two men walking across the pasture to the ladder. One behind the other, they climbed up and disappeared inside the structure. 

&quot;For a long moment, Miss Pickerell stood there, shading her eyes with her hand. She was not slow to realize that this must be the secret expedition Mr. Haggerty had been talking about. And of course these must be the people who had been using her house while she was away. 

“This is the last straw!” Miss Pickerell said. “Just the last straw!” She tied the cow to a tree with great angry loopings of the rope, and marched down the lane to the pasture.&quot;

MacGregor, Ellen. The Miss Pickerell MEGAPACK ™: 4 Classic Adventures . Wildside Press LLC. Kindle Edition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A rocket being built and tested in an open field.&#8221;  Why that&#8217;s right out the opening chapters of MISS PICKERELL GOES TO MARS (1951)!</p>
<p>&#8220;At the far end of Miss Pickerell’s pasture, a huge, silver-colored structure gleamed in the late-afternoon sun. It was shaped a little like a pencil, but it was much fatter, and had several wide fins at the bottom. Even from here, Miss Pickerell could see that the thing was enormous. It was far bigger than any airplane Miss Pickerell had ever seen or ever heard about. And instead of resting flat on the ground like an airplane, it pointed straight up in the air.</p>
<p>&#8220;A long thin ladder extended down from the thing to the ground, and even as she looked, Miss Pickerell saw two men walking across the pasture to the ladder. One behind the other, they climbed up and disappeared inside the structure. </p>
<p>&#8220;For a long moment, Miss Pickerell stood there, shading her eyes with her hand. She was not slow to realize that this must be the secret expedition Mr. Haggerty had been talking about. And of course these must be the people who had been using her house while she was away. </p>
<p>“This is the last straw!” Miss Pickerell said. “Just the last straw!” She tied the cow to a tree with great angry loopings of the rope, and marched down the lane to the pasture.&#8221;</p>
<p>MacGregor, Ellen. The Miss Pickerell MEGAPACK ™: 4 Classic Adventures . Wildside Press LLC. Kindle Edition.</p>
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		By: mpthompson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mpthompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2019 02:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding the grass fire after the test, a small herd of goats would keep that problem in check fairly nicely.  It would also add to the utterly absurd, but wonderful, image of what will likely become the worlds most powerful and advanced rocket being built and tested in an open field.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the grass fire after the test, a small herd of goats would keep that problem in check fairly nicely.  It would also add to the utterly absurd, but wonderful, image of what will likely become the worlds most powerful and advanced rocket being built and tested in an open field.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 23:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson wrote: &quot;&lt;i&gt;I mean, my God, if this cobbly water tower can fly, maybe that far sleeker thing nearby can do it too! The horror! The horror! Musk’s beach rockets might actually work!&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

Innovation takes an unexpected turn in the aerospace world.  Who would have guessed that water towers were an aerospace industry, too.  

Good work for SpaceX.  I am glad that they are overcoming their problems in a timely manner.  I expect more problems to rear their ugly heads, especially since we have our first flying water tower, but the water-works engineers know their stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Eagleson wrote: &#8220;<i>I mean, my God, if this cobbly water tower can fly, maybe that far sleeker thing nearby can do it too! The horror! The horror! Musk’s beach rockets might actually work!</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>Innovation takes an unexpected turn in the aerospace world.  Who would have guessed that water towers were an aerospace industry, too.  </p>
<p>Good work for SpaceX.  I am glad that they are overcoming their problems in a timely manner.  I expect more problems to rear their ugly heads, especially since we have our first flying water tower, but the water-works engineers know their stuff.</p>
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		By: Powderburns		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Powderburns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Elon’s greatest crime is that he makes everything seem possible. He breaks down tabboos. That tower looked like it could have been assembled by the local rocket club. When you break down the shackles, when those shackles are all some people have, you break a power structure. On the other hand, I wouldn’t have been too surprised with a giant fireball. The appetite for risk! Horatio, captain of the gate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elon’s greatest crime is that he makes everything seem possible. He breaks down tabboos. That tower looked like it could have been assembled by the local rocket club. When you break down the shackles, when those shackles are all some people have, you break a power structure. On the other hand, I wouldn’t have been too surprised with a giant fireball. The appetite for risk! Horatio, captain of the gate.</p>
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		By: Diane Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The analogy of helicopters comes to mind. (&quot;Helicopters don&#039;t fly; they&#039;re so ugly that gravity rejects them!&quot;) Yes, the water tower is ugly, but that Raptor engine is a challenge that the rest of the industry can&#039;t ignore. And the water tower can accommodate three Raptors. Not to mention those two Starships that are already under construction, and Musk&#039;s commitment to mass production of Raptors.

This does put Bezos on the spot. What&#039;s the status of BE-4? ULA has bet their future on BE-4; they should be asking some hard questions about now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The analogy of helicopters comes to mind. (&#8220;Helicopters don&#8217;t fly; they&#8217;re so ugly that gravity rejects them!&#8221;) Yes, the water tower is ugly, but that Raptor engine is a challenge that the rest of the industry can&#8217;t ignore. And the water tower can accommodate three Raptors. Not to mention those two Starships that are already under construction, and Musk&#8217;s commitment to mass production of Raptors.</p>
<p>This does put Bezos on the spot. What&#8217;s the status of BE-4? ULA has bet their future on BE-4; they should be asking some hard questions about now.</p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On other forums I note that the usual scoffers are rather more subdued this morning than is their wont.

I mean, my God, if this cobbly &lt;i&gt;water tower&lt;/i&gt; can fly, maybe that far sleeker thing nearby can do it too!  The horror!  The horror!  Musk&#039;s beach rockets might actually work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On other forums I note that the usual scoffers are rather more subdued this morning than is their wont.</p>
<p>I mean, my God, if this cobbly <i>water tower</i> can fly, maybe that far sleeker thing nearby can do it too!  The horror!  The horror!  Musk&#8217;s beach rockets might actually work!</p>
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		By: George Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I sat watching the live stream for two nights to see that.   From the angle I had, it was just a big glowing ball of flames.  I would sum it up as &quot;It took off, it hovered, it landed on the SLS.&quot;  

It took them a while to put out the resulting brush fires, some of which were pretty large.  I noted that all the water they were spraying to douse the fires was just going to grow more grass.

They were flying Raptor #6, the first engine that&#039;s resolved the combustion instability issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sat watching the live stream for two nights to see that.   From the angle I had, it was just a big glowing ball of flames.  I would sum it up as &#8220;It took off, it hovered, it landed on the SLS.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It took them a while to put out the resulting brush fires, some of which were pretty large.  I noted that all the water they were spraying to douse the fires was just going to grow more grass.</p>
<p>They were flying Raptor #6, the first engine that&#8217;s resolved the combustion instability issues.</p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 17:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A water tower company?

Not Lockheed or Northrop?

And they are doing it under the direction of some non professional non NASA engineers? I bet they are over budget and late on their dead lines.

Making a rocket NASA said could not be made and flown.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A water tower company?</p>
<p>Not Lockheed or Northrop?</p>
<p>And they are doing it under the direction of some non professional non NASA engineers? I bet they are over budget and late on their dead lines.</p>
<p>Making a rocket NASA said could not be made and flown.</p>
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		By: born01930		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[born01930]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is so amazing about this is that it was mostly constructed out in the open...no fancy rigs or even a solid building...by a water tower company. That to me is the game changer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so amazing about this is that it was mostly constructed out in the open&#8230;no fancy rigs or even a solid building&#8230;by a water tower company. That to me is the game changer.</p>
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