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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2023 03:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/starship-prototype-28-completes-full-duration-static-fire-test/#comment-1437878&quot;&gt;Milt&lt;/a&gt;.

Milt: Before posting I read this Space News article also, and decided not to link to it because it does what Jeff Foust (the Space News journalist) has too often done for years: spin things to give the government&#039;s side equal play, so as to automatically balance everything, making believe both sides have moral equivalency.

This has been the method of our bankrupt journalist community now for decades. It is as if they must give equal play to Hitler whenever they report on Churchill (which is &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; what they have been doing with the conflict in Gaza). The truth of one must be balanced with the lies of the other (with the lies ignored and treated as truth).

Both sides don&#039;t have moral equivalency however. The government is now abusing its power routinely and often lying about it, and it is &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; the job of journalists to cover for it. If anything, that is the exact opposite of what journalists are supposed to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/starship-prototype-28-completes-full-duration-static-fire-test/#comment-1437878">Milt</a>.</p>
<p>Milt: Before posting I read this Space News article also, and decided not to link to it because it does what Jeff Foust (the Space News journalist) has too often done for years: spin things to give the government&#8217;s side equal play, so as to automatically balance everything, making believe both sides have moral equivalency.</p>
<p>This has been the method of our bankrupt journalist community now for decades. It is as if they must give equal play to Hitler whenever they report on Churchill (which is <em>exactly</em> what they have been doing with the conflict in Gaza). The truth of one must be balanced with the lies of the other (with the lies ignored and treated as truth).</p>
<p>Both sides don&#8217;t have moral equivalency however. The government is now abusing its power routinely and often lying about it, and it is <strong>not</strong> the job of journalists to cover for it. If anything, that is the exact opposite of what journalists are supposed to do.</p>
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		By: Milt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2023 03:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This post from SpaceNews presents a somewhat different slant on how NASA is approaching the &quot;environmental crossfire&quot; over Starship launches:

https://spacenews.com/federal-agencies-caught-in-environmental-crossfire-over-starship-launches/

If NASA Deputy Administrator Pam Melroy&#039;s testimony before a recent space subcommittee hearing is to be believed, her agency is very much concerned about the delays coming out of the environmental review process, and she has gone so far as to have discussions with some environmental regulatory agencies to impress upon them the importance of activities like Starship.

Quoting her remarks as reported in the SpaceNews post, 

“There’s a lot of new stuff that’s happening and there’s some new players who are trying to work within their statutory deadlines but are very unfamiliar with this kind of activity,” she said, emphasizing she was not referring to the FAA “but some of their environmental partners who are learning along the way.”

“I can assure you that NASA works very closely with those regulatory partners and that they have signaled that they are aware of the critical nature of the Artemis program and how important its success is to the nation,” she told Cruz.&quot;

One hopes that something like the Riot Act was indeed read to the worthies at NASA&#039;s regulatory partners and their learning curves suitably modified, but the proof will be in how soon Starship&#039;s third test flight will be allowed to take place.   Meanwhile, ponder these comments from Mr. Margolis, again as reported in SpaceNews:

“Failing to do an in-depth environmental review and letting SpaceX keep launching the world’s largest rockets that repeatedly explode shows a shocking disregard for wildlife and communities,” Jared Margolis, a senior attorney at the Center for Biological Diversity, said in a statement about the new complaint. “SpaceX should not be given free rein to use this amazing area as a sacrifice zone.”  

A shocking disregard for the truth indeed, and that&#039;s why these folks are called &quot;the People of the Lie.&quot;  And Senator Ted Crews, methinks, has labeled their actions correctly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post from SpaceNews presents a somewhat different slant on how NASA is approaching the &#8220;environmental crossfire&#8221; over Starship launches:</p>
<p><a href="https://spacenews.com/federal-agencies-caught-in-environmental-crossfire-over-starship-launches/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://spacenews.com/federal-agencies-caught-in-environmental-crossfire-over-starship-launches/</a></p>
<p>If NASA Deputy Administrator Pam Melroy&#8217;s testimony before a recent space subcommittee hearing is to be believed, her agency is very much concerned about the delays coming out of the environmental review process, and she has gone so far as to have discussions with some environmental regulatory agencies to impress upon them the importance of activities like Starship.</p>
<p>Quoting her remarks as reported in the SpaceNews post, </p>
<p>“There’s a lot of new stuff that’s happening and there’s some new players who are trying to work within their statutory deadlines but are very unfamiliar with this kind of activity,” she said, emphasizing she was not referring to the FAA “but some of their environmental partners who are learning along the way.”</p>
<p>“I can assure you that NASA works very closely with those regulatory partners and that they have signaled that they are aware of the critical nature of the Artemis program and how important its success is to the nation,” she told Cruz.&#8221;</p>
<p>One hopes that something like the Riot Act was indeed read to the worthies at NASA&#8217;s regulatory partners and their learning curves suitably modified, but the proof will be in how soon Starship&#8217;s third test flight will be allowed to take place.   Meanwhile, ponder these comments from Mr. Margolis, again as reported in SpaceNews:</p>
<p>“Failing to do an in-depth environmental review and letting SpaceX keep launching the world’s largest rockets that repeatedly explode shows a shocking disregard for wildlife and communities,” Jared Margolis, a senior attorney at the Center for Biological Diversity, said in a statement about the new complaint. “SpaceX should not be given free rein to use this amazing area as a sacrifice zone.”  </p>
<p>A shocking disregard for the truth indeed, and that&#8217;s why these folks are called &#8220;the People of the Lie.&#8221;  And Senator Ted Crews, methinks, has labeled their actions correctly.</p>
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		By: Col Beausabre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Col Beausabre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2023 20:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No one in government has to be &quot;forced&quot; - people join regulatory agencies because they want - need - to regulate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one in government has to be &#8220;forced&#8221; &#8211; people join regulatory agencies because they want &#8211; need &#8211; to regulate.</p>
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