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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I keep wondering if Niven’s “Inconstant Moon” could come true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep wondering if Niven’s “Inconstant Moon” could come true.</p>
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		By: pawn		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The harmonic oscillator is always the first into fire.

I remember back in grad school, someone calculating the 138th harmonic term of some resonant nuclear force.

I remember thinking &quot;Why?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The harmonic oscillator is always the first into fire.</p>
<p>I remember back in grad school, someone calculating the 138th harmonic term of some resonant nuclear force.</p>
<p>I remember thinking &#8220;Why?&#8221;</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2023 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert,
Well, the Sun simply rings like a bell. There are two heliosiesmic wave frequences dominating its magnetic activity at the moment (historic times).  They are a bit out of sync so they sometimes re-enforce each others, sometimes negate each other. And during the transition periods their concert form double tops. It is a phenomena that occurs in many contexts. And all those contexts are a product of the Sun or its similar parents, so it is natural to assume that it too has that habit. Especially when it actually have it, as the graphs show. The double top is widening from cycle to cycle and it depresses the cycles.

WHY does it occur? Well, the Sun is a sphere of massive matter after all. If one hits it, it will ring like a bell tolls. Perhaps an outburst, a giant mass ejection a thousand years ago left the current harmonies in the wake of its shock wave? Like the first bubble of vapor in a kettle of boiling water reaching the surface and popping. Leaving behind rings of waves that are then reflected on the edges of the kettle and case an interferance pattern. Stuff like that happens everywhere all the time, like even inside of our own bodies here and now. It&#039;s the phenomena that anectotically inspired Isaac Newton (the apple stuff is later made up from Biblical inspiration).

So there&#039;s a &quot;why&quot; for you. Ask any honest heilophysicist and they will tell you that there exists no credible theory about why the Sun does what it does. So any reasonable guess is a candidate, there is no look-up-answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
Well, the Sun simply rings like a bell. There are two heliosiesmic wave frequences dominating its magnetic activity at the moment (historic times).  They are a bit out of sync so they sometimes re-enforce each others, sometimes negate each other. And during the transition periods their concert form double tops. It is a phenomena that occurs in many contexts. And all those contexts are a product of the Sun or its similar parents, so it is natural to assume that it too has that habit. Especially when it actually have it, as the graphs show. The double top is widening from cycle to cycle and it depresses the cycles.</p>
<p>WHY does it occur? Well, the Sun is a sphere of massive matter after all. If one hits it, it will ring like a bell tolls. Perhaps an outburst, a giant mass ejection a thousand years ago left the current harmonies in the wake of its shock wave? Like the first bubble of vapor in a kettle of boiling water reaching the surface and popping. Leaving behind rings of waves that are then reflected on the edges of the kettle and case an interferance pattern. Stuff like that happens everywhere all the time, like even inside of our own bodies here and now. It&#8217;s the phenomena that anectotically inspired Isaac Newton (the apple stuff is later made up from Biblical inspiration).</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s a &#8220;why&#8221; for you. Ask any honest heilophysicist and they will tell you that there exists no credible theory about why the Sun does what it does. So any reasonable guess is a candidate, there is no look-up-answer.</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2023 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Max,
I don&#039;t get caught in any no go zone, because I don&#039;t go into no go zones, duh ;-)
But I was a bit harrassed by a mental drugged zombie today, whom I learned later came into a fight with a neighbor. And last month a guy was shot dead with five bullets just at the entrance of the shopping mall 300 meters from where I live. Infornt of a hundred of witnesses, just luck the bullets didn&#039;t hit anyone else in the crowd. Still not arrested as far as I know. Police doesn&#039;t have time to make much of an effort for such everyday mass crimes, as they are nowadays called by local MSM propaganda.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,<br />
I don&#8217;t get caught in any no go zone, because I don&#8217;t go into no go zones, duh ;-)<br />
But I was a bit harrassed by a mental drugged zombie today, whom I learned later came into a fight with a neighbor. And last month a guy was shot dead with five bullets just at the entrance of the shopping mall 300 meters from where I live. Infornt of a hundred of witnesses, just luck the bullets didn&#8217;t hit anyone else in the crowd. Still not arrested as far as I know. Police doesn&#8217;t have time to make much of an effort for such everyday mass crimes, as they are nowadays called by local MSM propaganda.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2023 00:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan-
&quot;....nor yet sunspot predictions to men of Science...&quot;
Absolutely hilarious!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan-<br />
&#8220;&#8230;.nor yet sunspot predictions to men of Science&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Absolutely hilarious!</p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:

THE AGENDA, THE LIE, AND THE FACTS

&quot;Co -founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore:  &quot;Moore is now a director for the CO2 Coalition, a nonprofit group that includes scientists devoted to highlighting the benefits of carbon dioxide. He is also the author of a new book titled Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom, which takes aim at what Moore described as “scare stories” that cannot be justified on the basis of scientific observation and verification.&quot;

https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/the-agenda-the-lie-and-the-facts]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:</p>
<p>THE AGENDA, THE LIE, AND THE FACTS</p>
<p>&#8220;Co -founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore:  &#8220;Moore is now a director for the CO2 Coalition, a nonprofit group that includes scientists devoted to highlighting the benefits of carbon dioxide. He is also the author of a new book titled Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom, which takes aim at what Moore described as “scare stories” that cannot be justified on the basis of scientific observation and verification.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/the-agenda-the-lie-and-the-facts" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/the-agenda-the-lie-and-the-facts</a></p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 19:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Local fluff!!!
When we don’t hear from you in a while I get worried that you were caught in a “no go zone” on the wrong side of Sweden. hopefully you’re doing well, would love to hear some updates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local fluff!!!<br />
When we don’t hear from you in a while I get worried that you were caught in a “no go zone” on the wrong side of Sweden. hopefully you’re doing well, would love to hear some updates.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 18:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/sunspot-update-the-sun-continues-to-prove-that-solar-scientists-understand-nothing/#comment-1435697&quot;&gt;LocalFluff&lt;/a&gt;.

LocalFluff: Your prediction of a double-peaked maximum might be right, but it is meaningless because you have no idea &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; it will happen, just as these solar scientists do not know why either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/sunspot-update-the-sun-continues-to-prove-that-solar-scientists-understand-nothing/#comment-1435697">LocalFluff</a>.</p>
<p>LocalFluff: Your prediction of a double-peaked maximum might be right, but it is meaningless because you have no idea <em>why</em> it will happen, just as these solar scientists do not know why either.</p>
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		By: Dan Niemeyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Niemeyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 17:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Responding to Wayne:
Ecclesiastes 9:11 KJV - I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill, nor yet sunspot predictions to men of Science; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

I might have added that last part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Wayne:<br />
Ecclesiastes 9:11 KJV &#8211; I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill, nor yet sunspot predictions to men of Science; but time and chance happeneth to them all.</p>
<p>I might have added that last part.</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LocalFluff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;ll be a double top.
I&#039;ve always said it will be a double-top. It will be a double-top. Do I need to repeat myself :-) It&#039;ll be as much a double-top as the cut of the pointy haired boss of Dilbert. That curve might edge up again during the next couple of years. But it will then dive pretty steep. Lay low for a couple of years. Climb again like a spider after the rain. And enter the average of its approximate bell curve to the 11 year minimum. How is this not obvious?

If only someone on Wall Street came up with the idea to turn this curve into a market for betting odds, I&#039;d secure my pension within a cycle of 11 years.

By the way. as if for no reason concerning my level of Solar Physics skills, ehum. This YT-channel about science paper FRAUD might be of interest. Nature and Science and of course many lesser magazines, publishing nonsense agains and again. Here a cut in a vid that asks the questions:
https://youtu.be/44GilgN6ug0?t=833

And his YT-channel accounts for surprisingly many surprising science frauds (almost so many that I begin to suspect that he is fraudulent! ;-D ) How come the scientific community, even in physics, allow this to go on? Gallilei&#039;s encrypted letters to Kepler were better reviewed 400 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/@PeteJudo1/videos]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be a double top.<br />
I&#8217;ve always said it will be a double-top. It will be a double-top. Do I need to repeat myself :-) It&#8217;ll be as much a double-top as the cut of the pointy haired boss of Dilbert. That curve might edge up again during the next couple of years. But it will then dive pretty steep. Lay low for a couple of years. Climb again like a spider after the rain. And enter the average of its approximate bell curve to the 11 year minimum. How is this not obvious?</p>
<p>If only someone on Wall Street came up with the idea to turn this curve into a market for betting odds, I&#8217;d secure my pension within a cycle of 11 years.</p>
<p>By the way. as if for no reason concerning my level of Solar Physics skills, ehum. This YT-channel about science paper FRAUD might be of interest. Nature and Science and of course many lesser magazines, publishing nonsense agains and again. Here a cut in a vid that asks the questions:<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/44GilgN6ug0?t=833" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/44GilgN6ug0?t=833</a></p>
<p>And his YT-channel accounts for surprisingly many surprising science frauds (almost so many that I begin to suspect that he is fraudulent! ;-D ) How come the scientific community, even in physics, allow this to go on? Gallilei&#8217;s encrypted letters to Kepler were better reviewed 400 years ago.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PeteJudo1/videos" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/@PeteJudo1/videos</a></p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 16:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or
failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate
capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into
account.&quot;
George Orwell
&quot;Politics and the English Language&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or<br />
failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate<br />
capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into<br />
account.&#8221;<br />
George Orwell<br />
&#8220;Politics and the English Language&#8221;</p>
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		By: Yehiel Handlarz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yehiel Handlarz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not even as good as the storefront astrologers in you neighborhood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even as good as the storefront astrologers in you neighborhood.</p>
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		By: Eric E. Coe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric E. Coe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 12:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This guy claims to know what is going on:
http://milesmathis.com/afick.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy claims to know what is going on:<br />
<a href="http://milesmathis.com/afick.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://milesmathis.com/afick.pdf</a></p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 01:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Max.  This post is ignorant the TheScience.  If you knew and trusted TheScience from the experts then you would realize the the predictions are the correct.  No where in TheScience is it allowed for anyone to even suggest that TheScience is not correct.  TheScience is rightfully decided, peace be upon TheScience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Max.  This post is ignorant the TheScience.  If you knew and trusted TheScience from the experts then you would realize the the predictions are the correct.  No where in TheScience is it allowed for anyone to even suggest that TheScience is not correct.  TheScience is rightfully decided, peace be upon TheScience.</p>
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		By: Alex Andrite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Andrite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 01:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Science,
It is quite alright to use the word / term &quot;Mystery&quot; while doing your homework.  
Even to use the word in your &quot;results&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Science,<br />
It is quite alright to use the word / term &#8220;Mystery&#8221; while doing your homework.<br />
Even to use the word in your &#8220;results&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2023 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My response to Zimmermans last paragraph;

  Recent history suggest that being incorrect in their projections can no longer be tolerated, science must not be questioned! 
   (Very soon the data will be adjusted to match the projection… Just as it is in the global warming numbers.)
    Any journalist whom questions our authority also questions the power behind that authority… They will never work again! Minions must be useful and obedient or they are canceled and replaced. 
   Under the orders of the department of the “The ivy league PhD priesthood of the all knowing”. Where our motto is, “we are never wrong!”

  Meanwhile, there’s an active solar flare hitting the earth right now. Expect some beautiful northern pictures under mostly dark conditions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response to Zimmermans last paragraph;</p>
<p>  Recent history suggest that being incorrect in their projections can no longer be tolerated, science must not be questioned!<br />
   (Very soon the data will be adjusted to match the projection… Just as it is in the global warming numbers.)<br />
    Any journalist whom questions our authority also questions the power behind that authority… They will never work again! Minions must be useful and obedient or they are canceled and replaced.<br />
   Under the orders of the department of the “The ivy league PhD priesthood of the all knowing”. Where our motto is, “we are never wrong!”</p>
<p>  Meanwhile, there’s an active solar flare hitting the earth right now. Expect some beautiful northern pictures under mostly dark conditions.</p>
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