Comments on: The crashes that changed aviation and plane designs forever. https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-crashes-that-changed-aviation-and-plane-designs-forever/ Fri, 18 Apr 2014 22:33:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Joe https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-crashes-that-changed-aviation-and-plane-designs-forever/#comment-164450 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 22:33:33 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=28214#comment-164450 In reply to Edward.

Yes, there was a fear by subordinates to approach the captain, the captain could never be wrong, if this culture had been addressed, this accident never would have happened. With regards to Asiana flight, that flight crew should never be near an aircraft again! Good post!

]]> By: Edward https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-crashes-that-changed-aviation-and-plane-designs-forever/#comment-164442 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:38:06 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=28214#comment-164442 In reply to Joe.

KLM flight 4805 also changed how flight crews work with each other in the cockpit. Copilots and others on the flight deck are now better able to question and correct the captain so that situational awareness is not so easily lost.

http://lessonslearned.faa.gov/ll_main.cfm?TabID=3&CategoryID=14&LLID=52

http://lessonslearned.faa.gov/ll_main.cfm?TabID=3&LLID=52&LLTypeID=12

Of course, Asiana flight 214 showed us that the entire flight crew can lose situational awareness.

]]> By: Joe https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-crashes-that-changed-aviation-and-plane-designs-forever/#comment-164265 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 03:01:52 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=28214#comment-164265 In reply to Joe.

Correction, it was KLM royal Dutch airlines, not Air France.

]]> By: Joe https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-crashes-that-changed-aviation-and-plane-designs-forever/#comment-164262 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:22:10 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=28214#comment-164262 While the author of this piece highlighted engineering and mechanical failures, he also included the accident over the Grand Canyon, this accident was just fate waiting to happen, I think he should also have included the Tenerife accident where two 747’s collided on the runway due to a very impatient Air France pilot who was not paying attention to his radios and lost situational awareness on a 0 0 take off in the fog on a runway that normally did not accomadate such large aircraft. This sparked a large change in aircraft ground control.

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