The dark future predicted by this week’s elections
Because the elections this past week on November 5 took place during an off year, they were mostly local, and thus have a limited value in predicting the public’s overall political attitude. The results however can still give us a hint about the future, and are thus worth looking at for that reason.
In general, the results were mostly mixed, with Democrats doing great in some suburbs and in Virginia, and Republicans doing great in the down slate races in Mississippi and Kentucky. The governorship elections were also mixed, with the Republicans winning in Mississippi and the Democrats winning in Kentucky.
Other results also suggest mixed results on a variety of propositions. The link above notes the defeat of a leftist proposition in Washington that would have repealed the state’s prohibition on using affirmative action quotas. On the other hand, in New York City voters approved ranked voting, an election system that Democrats have used in Maine and California to destroy Republican opposition.
Overall however I consider these results a disaster for the future of freedom, democracy, and our Constitutional system. The Democratic Party has made it very clear in the past three years that it no longer respects all three. More importantly, they have also made it clear that they are willing to use slander, libel, and any number of vicious McCarthyite tactics to squelch and destroy anyone who opposes them.
It is terrifying to me that the public seems undecided or ambivalent about these facts, and still willing to vote for Democrats, many of whom have openly supported these tactics and positions. In fact, it suggests a large percentage of the population, majorities in many places, actually applaud the Democratic Party’s fascist tactics and positions.
This week’s elections therefore once again reaffirm for me a very pessimistic future coming in the next few election cycles. Even if Trump should win in 2020, the voting pattern that we have seen in both 2018 (when the voters gave control of the House to the Democrats) and 2019 suggest that his win will be mixed, and that the power the Democrats presently hold in Congress will remain firm and unchallenged. This is what the voters have been telling us. They are not ready to clean house in the Democratic Party.
Dark times are coming. Be ready.
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Because the elections this past week on November 5 took place during an off year, they were mostly local, and thus have a limited value in predicting the public’s overall political attitude. The results however can still give us a hint about the future, and are thus worth looking at for that reason.
In general, the results were mostly mixed, with Democrats doing great in some suburbs and in Virginia, and Republicans doing great in the down slate races in Mississippi and Kentucky. The governorship elections were also mixed, with the Republicans winning in Mississippi and the Democrats winning in Kentucky.
Other results also suggest mixed results on a variety of propositions. The link above notes the defeat of a leftist proposition in Washington that would have repealed the state’s prohibition on using affirmative action quotas. On the other hand, in New York City voters approved ranked voting, an election system that Democrats have used in Maine and California to destroy Republican opposition.
Overall however I consider these results a disaster for the future of freedom, democracy, and our Constitutional system. The Democratic Party has made it very clear in the past three years that it no longer respects all three. More importantly, they have also made it clear that they are willing to use slander, libel, and any number of vicious McCarthyite tactics to squelch and destroy anyone who opposes them.
It is terrifying to me that the public seems undecided or ambivalent about these facts, and still willing to vote for Democrats, many of whom have openly supported these tactics and positions. In fact, it suggests a large percentage of the population, majorities in many places, actually applaud the Democratic Party’s fascist tactics and positions.
This week’s elections therefore once again reaffirm for me a very pessimistic future coming in the next few election cycles. Even if Trump should win in 2020, the voting pattern that we have seen in both 2018 (when the voters gave control of the House to the Democrats) and 2019 suggest that his win will be mixed, and that the power the Democrats presently hold in Congress will remain firm and unchallenged. This is what the voters have been telling us. They are not ready to clean house in the Democratic Party.
Dark times are coming. Be ready.
The support of my readers through the years has given me the freedom and ability to analyze objectively the ongoing renaissance in space, as well as the cultural changes -- for good or ill -- that are happening across America. Four years ago, just before the 2020 election I wrote that Joe Biden's mental health was suspect. Only in this year has the propaganda mainstream media decided to recognize that basic fact.
Fourteen years ago I wrote that SLS and Orion were a bad ideas, a waste of money, would be years behind schedule, and better replaced by commercial private enterprise. Even today NASA and Congress refuse to recognize this reality.
In 2020 when the world panicked over COVID I wrote that the panic was unnecessary, that the virus was apparently simply a variation of the flu, that masks were not simply pointless but if worn incorrectly were a health threat, that the lockdowns were a disaster and did nothing to stop the spread of COVID. Only in the past year have some of our so-called experts in the health field have begun to recognize these facts.
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Marxism is ascending but I don’t think most Democrats know what is going on in their party and that is by design.
I followed the ranked-voting link to Vox (you should have warned us) and found this related headline: “The media’s biggest bias is its centrism.”
Americans truly live in two different worlds.
As a DC resident, I will say that I don’t think this is as irretrievable as it might seem, since it is an off-off-year election, and the opposition is always going to have a leg up. Virginia is not Maryland. Not yet.
But I will not deny that it is getting more blue, which is chiefly attributable to the vast growth of Northern Virginia, which in turn is attributable to the vast growth in the federal government over the past decade and more.
More to the point, to the extent that we’re becoming a more liberal culture, this is what happens when you tamely allow the colonization of major culture forming institutions to an ideological set – starting with schools.
Dark times for sure are coming to New York under the guise of the “Progressive” agenda. And the only thing that will turn the peoples attitudes and install a more rational leadership in NYC and NYS will be some level of increased crime, homelessness, chaos and or tragedy unfortunately. All of which are approaching at high speed.
I think that at this particular moment in time things are extra tribal as far as voting goes but the meaty middle of the road Democrats throughout the country are not happy with their party, who is leading it and its direction.
And then came Nanny Bloomberg to the rescue?
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/07/bloomberg-preparing-to-file-for-alabama-presidential-primary-000322
I don’t think he plays well nationally. He has run as every form of political candidate, but he has all the money in the world, almost literally.
But so did Hillary.
Counterpoint: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/07/anatomy-republican-smear/
It’s a tough thread to weave to express worry about the first amendment, then accuse those you disagree with politically of slander and libel; crimes which the principal actors have not been convicted of. What ever happened to due process? To “innocent until proven guilty”?
More to the point, Donald Jr. and others (Rand Paul, et al.) are engaging in far more dangerous McCarthyist tactics against the Ukraine whistleblower.
Amazon Washington Post = Fake news, Fake opinions.
There is no “whistleblower,” we have the actual transcript. It’s all contrived, manufactured, fakeness.
Adam (#2 pencil neck) Schiff, is a fact-witness and he needs to be sworn in and testify as to his “witness” tampering.
Helter Stelter
Louder With Crowder
https://youtu.be/t31rUX3QDiQ
4:01
William Mandel testifies before HUAC (excerpt)
May 1960
https://youtu.be/UM8uP565hzI
1:23
Brad,
To convict someone of a crime, a prosecutor has to bring charges. The swamp creatures have proven multiple times that they WILL NOT do so.
The First amendment doesn’t protect slander. The swamp does.
The remedy to this is very simple. Just convince a substantial part of the 45-49% of the voting population that will go for Trump in 2020 not to obey any of laws and regulations that will come out of any Marxist administration in D.C. after January 20, 2021. Show the Donkeys that they can reign but not rule. Before talking about civil war, secession, or giving up read this. It could work in America, too.
https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/adding-strategic-nonviolence-unconventional-warfare-doctrine
Brad, how about sharing what freedoms we have lost while Trump has been President.
And do the same for all those who dare speak out against the Fake News people.
And did you watch “The View” telling Democrat candidates to lie?
Yes, what ever happenened to them?
” What ever happened to due process? To “innocent until proven guilty”?”
Cotour,
Those in opposition to the Democrat Party and their acolytes have no rights.
I happened to hear an interview between Hue Hewitt and Chuck Todd of Meet The Press, you know, an “objective” conscious, plugged in “journalist”.
Hewitt was talking about the self revealed strange actions and attitudes of ex CIA head Brennan towards president Trump. Any rational human being that has ever listened to Brennan talking about Trump clearly and unambiguously understands that there is no one on the planet that despises Trump more and it is reasonable to assume that he has in fact taken actions against Trump while in his deep state position. Brennan being a Globalist and Trump being the knight that is slaying that dragon.
And it was like Todd was hearing this “Ridiculous” information, which he immedaiately dismissed and called ridiculous. Todd thought it ridiculous that a career government employee in the highest levels of the CIA would think that way and actually take actions above and beyond any legal ability to do so.
Todd compared that to Jack Ruby being involved in a conspiracy to take out Oswald. Not even a possiblity, even though there clearly are piles for emails and messages and actual evidence to prove it.
Todd just dismissed the thought that Brennan, and Comey, and Ohr, and Strzok, and Page, and Baker, the list is long, that such a conspiracy could possibly exist.
In the coming weeks or so before Thanksgiving I suspect that Attorney General Barr and Mr. Horowitz will be supplying the subject of most all talk around the holiday table with initial reports on the FISA issue. And that subject will be how the FBI leadership defrauded the court in its submissions related to the FISA surveilance of the Trump campaign and how they set up it all up.
And Chuck Todd is apparently entirely unaware of ANY of these potentials, a “Ridiculous conspiracy”. Potentials that to me just have to be officially confirmed when the investigations by the Trump DOJ and Mr. Horowitz and Mr. Durham present their evidence. Its plain as day to me, I don’t know about you.
So here is a clear example of the two realities that exist in America today. However it will be hard to deny when the indictments of whom ever make the cut come down. Then what will the likes of the selectively unconscious Chuck Todd have to say about what is what?
Here Todd again runs cover for Brennan.
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2019/10/06/chuck-todd-blows-up-on-gop-senator-for-asking-about-john-brennan/
““You ought to ask Director Brennan: What did Peter Strzok mean when he texted Lisa Page on Dec. 15, 2016?” Johnson began, referring to two of the former FBI officials who worked on the Trump-Russia probe.
Todd said: “Senator, what does this have to do with Ukraine?”
Johnson read from a text message that Strzok sent Page in which he speculated that the CIA was behind leaks for political reasons.
“Think our sisters have begun leaking like mad. Scorned and worried and political, they’re kicking in to overdrive,” Strzok wrote Page on Dec. 15, 2016.
I think Chuck Todd should resign from his position as mediator on Meet The Press if and when these assertions about Brennan are clearly established, he is obviously IMO playing for and supports mostly one side. The Left.
Oh blyatiful. Guess that we, the “Russian hackers,” have to save the day. Again.
I’ll throw this in here….
Jesus Jones
“Right Here, Right Now” November 9, 1989
https://youtu.be/GYPBt4fZOUI
3:17
“I saw the decade end, when it seemed
The world could change at the blink of an eye,
And if anything, then there’s your sign, of the times.
I was alive and i waited, waited…
I was alive and i waited for this.
Right here, right now, there is no other place i want to be.
Right here, right now,
Watching the world wake up from history…”
on a more pessimistic note…
Fahrenheit 451
‘the fire department arrives…’
https://youtu.be/x9iyKI2pJbE?t=76
5:34
Let me be very clear. PAINFULLY CLEAR.
They will either respect the ballot box, or face the Bullet Box.
I f we can not make enough socialists inside America then we will just import them by the millions.
Charlie Kirk BOOED OFF STAGE AT HIS OWN EVENT!! Trump Jr. On Stage Too!
Today is an important day in America’s recent history. There is hope. The fake conservatives will lose the civil war against genuine real conservatives. See below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0xkIiS-LFM
YOUNG CONSERVATIVE REVOLUTION!
Charlie Kirk gets confronted by Real Conservatives !!
Fake conservative Charlie Kirk melts down. A pretty thing to be observe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm2oq9eHi0g
Conservative Revolt! Conservatism Has Been HIJACKED and Groypers are Taking it Back
Conservative Inc. will soon go out of business. The subversion of conservatism by conservative inc. has gone on for to long. Almost every conservative value, for the last 50 years, has been forfeited. We are working in the lefts moral framework.
The neoconservatives who literally came out of the left and Democratic Party started during the latter part of the 1950’s. They invaded, usurped and displaced the conservatives of the Republican Party fully by the end of the 1970’s. The neocons also maintained a strong presence in the Democratic Party. Start by looking up Scoop Jackson.
Zoomer conservative vs boomer neocons. The young will replace the old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BJqH-kgb1I
America First!
Nick Fuentes (21) is the future of Conservatism, and young enough to out-live EVERY Boomer. Glorious speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzxfrHODXeQ
THE IRRATIONAL RATIONALITY OF SOME DEMOCRATS
I was speaking with a Democrat lady friend who is thoroughly disgusted with the candidates that the Democrat party is offering in the 2020 presidential race. When push comes to shove, and I know she can be emotional, in the end she is a rational person.
Except when it comes to Trump.
So I asked her: “What exactly is it that you know that Trump has done that is so against what you think best for the country?”
” I just hate him”. “The way he speaks, the way he looks, what he says, he contradicts himself with every other word, the words he uses. God he is so dumb!”.
“I just hate him!”.
So you are basing your entire opinion on your just not liking his style?
“Thats just the way I feel”.
“But your opinion is just based on your not liking his style, you have not told me anything that tells me about what he is doing as president that is hurting the country in some manner.”
Then it went off the rails, I saw something in her that I really had never seen before, visceral hate. And she is normally a very nice and compassionate and considerate person. But not when it comes to Trump, she is vicious.
And at that point after what came out of her mouth, which I will not repeat, I was forced to point out that she was being irrational and quite frankly very ugly and violent. This is very real and disturbing.
She and many others in America are in full blown Trump derangement syndrome and they are not able to rationally explain what it is that they think and feel and why regarding Trump and his being president. In the coming weeks and months as the media pumps its mostly desperate Democrat supporting narrative this will certainly increase in ways that is not knowable at this point in time because it will be getting much, much worse for them all.
And what they will do the night that Trump is reelected? Will they all have to be institutionalized? Drugs? Mass suicide? Mass insurrection? Stay tuned.
Cotour:
Nick Fuentes is right: it’s difficult to understand why Trump even wants to further increase legal immigration when 77% of immigrants vote for the Democratic Party, making it increasingly impossible for any of the GOP presidential candidates to be re-elected. Apart from the economy, Trump has not respected anything he had promised his main constituency, who are conservative white voters. Trump himself is not a conservative at all, he is a liberal inside. He does not represent conservative values. So he is also for the gay marriage. He could also have been run for the Democratic Party. In this case he would have been able to adapt his election campaign rhetoric easily to the new target group of voters.
Oh, Nick Fuentes says that. (Who the hell is Nick Fuentes?)
There is a big diiference between Illegal “Immigrants” and Legal Immigrants.
Legal Immigrants, and I have spoken to many of them, are generally very patriotic and they DESPISE Illegal “Immigration”. It is an insult to them and their struggles in getting to America.
Listen, Questioner, Trump is as close to a rational and pragmatic Conservative as you will or ever see in the White House. EVER.
What you seem to be attempting to instigate is a Ann Coulter type insurection against Trump. Its not playing at least with me.
Let me guess, you are a Libertarian?
No, Cotour, there are no major political differences between illegal and legal immigrants. It does not matter. You may have illusions about it. Both groups come from same culture and countries. Both groups tend to socialism, big government, welfare support and are open to identity politics (tribalism). Illegals, like their legal brothers, would vote in their vast majority for Democrats. Substantial parts of legal immigrants already use governmental welfare assistance. These are the facts. Listen to Nick Fuentes. All immigration should be stopped for some decades. Sincerely, your (real) conservative Questioner.
Foreman Mike
Back on the Border new project
November 6, 2019
https://youtu.be/pyU4ZOwtv7I
1:42
Questioner:
I have direct person to person experience asking the exact question that you pose about Illegal and Legal immigration directly to real Immigrants and their attitudes towards their political affiliations. And my direct experience differs from what you, and Nick Fuente, report. Who am I to belieive?
You, and Nick Fuente, I will assume are young and enthusiastic politcal wana be players and are a bit too zealous to be taken serious. America was founded and is populated by “Foreigners” and the attitudes that they brought with them. They understood well from where they came and the oppression that they suffered and where they now are.
Today they are called Americans. Are there political forces that attempt to indoctrinate them and enlist them in the Leftist anti American Globalist movement? Certainly, it is what they live for.
Your, and Nick Fuente’s, brand of Nationalism is dark and not productive and does not respect the individuals who seek to come to America and become Americans, you stero type them and basically call them all Leftist opratives. And many, many more, I would argue the vast majority of these are the people that we should all welcome to America.
Illegal “Immigrants” are very different then Legal Immigrants.
Cotour:
You talk like a leftist, because you are prefer your subjectivity and ideology over objective, real straight facts. Let me guess. Are you a female, liberal boomer? Lady, please do not reject the truth about nonwhite voting. That is a dangerous way of thinking. It is about America’s future. BTW, he is called by the name Nicholas J. Fuentes (not Fuente). We are strong and the future, because present America’s “conservatism”, which was have been subverted by leftist ideology since end of WW II, is false and untrue.
I must say that if the FBI is interested in what some foreign operatives are up to in America involving the internet I would suggest they read this previous post because it reads just like someone from China would write English. You Mr. Questioner are not an American. To the Gulag with you in punishement for your failure.
https://youtu.be/NXyzpMDtpSE
Uh, oh, your Social score is tanking and heading for 500.
Whether it be the Russians or the Chinese or the North Koreans or the Ukrainians they are constantly prodding and probing and attempting to sew discord and confusion where ever they think they can in America and in he American media and social media.
I am sure you would love to raise a political wana be zealot like Nick Fuente, who is barely out of diapers, into the medias radar in order to promote his extreme Right positions in order to further your agenda, but not today.
If you can, ask president for life, XI, how he is likin Trump so far for me.
On a related subject. I fully watched this particular short video that I posted on China’s social rating system.
No wonder the Chinese have to steal all of their technology and advancments, they have been and are now turning their people into paranoid mental patients who are now unable to speak against anything their overlords think, say or do to them. This is Orwellian, and that is not said for effect this is literal.
And the likes of Google and Apple and others are in bed / business with the Chinese and them being able to accomilish this offence to freedom and mental health. An American company should not be able to legally do business with another business or government that has such an agenda as this.
The Germans have nothing on the Chinese, the Chinese are Germans on never before seen super steroids. And where this goes over time is not a good place, no, not good at all. The Chinese might want to invest heavily in mental institutions because that is exactly where they are driving their entire population to.
Questioner: You are beginning to remind me of a previous anonymous commenter on Behind the Black, who started out sounding like a sane conservative but steadily shifted toward anti-black bigotry and racism. I eventually had to ban that individual because it eventually became apparent that he or she was not here to argue the concepts of freedom and individual rights, but to push for race-based policies.
In fact, the similarities are so striking that I am beginning to wonder if you and that earlier commenter are simply hired by some Russian or Soros operation to insert such odious views on my website in order to later smear it and thus discredit it.
Be warned. While I welcome almost any opinions, there are some I cannot tolerate.
Cotour:
Get your facts straight by help of Ann Coulter (it starts about 11:30 in linked video): “Immigrants have been voting since 1970 more than 80% for Democrats!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkacnR5YoCs
Questioner:
Have you had the chance to ask president Xi my question about how he is likin Trump so far?
I will assume that he liked Obama much preferred?
Cotour:
President 習近平 has ordered me to introduce you to the following video with two real American Conservatives. Of course, I like to follow his orders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tUJ02LdSb0
Questioner (Beta male?) :
I love Jesse Peterson (Man).
Mr. Fuente (beta male) seems like a very nice young man, well spoken and intelligent. I will keep my eye on him and see where he goes. A little too idealistic and religious for me personally? Might turn into an inflexible religious zealot who can find no reasonable tolerance for anyone who might be different from him. Which would not be good. Like it or not not everyone is the same and fits into a particular “desirable” mold.
We will see where he chooses to go over time.
The lesson here? Learn a more seamless, nuanced and balanced way to sell your self or your guru. Why? Because when someone reads your promotions / posts your agenda can be detected and it comes off as being not genuine. Your road to success?
Be genuine. 習近平
And in the dark there bacame a light.
https://youtu.be/8NdbANrjFWE
William Barr’s speech at the Federalist Society, excellent.
“President 習近平”
Should address him by his proper title: 習近平皇帝
Cotour:
I’m glad you have humor. I gladly accept advice. By the way, what do you think about Ben Shapiro? He seems to me to be a terrible, maybe even bad or evil man. He recently gave a speech at Stanford University, dedicated to Nick Fuentes alone, filled with attacks of Nick of the lowest and most evil kind. One more remark: It is very interesting to hear how Shapiro, as a non-Christian, defines what Christianity is or should be in its view. That sounds pretty arrogant to me. If you enter both names on Youtube, you will find this shame of a political speech. There are also some commented versions.
Keeping an eye on, Nick Fuente:
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/470687-conservatives-seek-to-stifle-new-alt-right-movement-seeped-in-anti-semitism
(Questioner: I still find your sentence structure unusual and foreign, why is that?)
Nationalism: Can be defined for our purposes as Nazim or Nazi like and is narrow, devisive and exclusionary.
American Nationalism: Can be defined as inclusionary and accepting of differences.
Choose one.
Cotour: Did you view Shapiro’s evil speech? BTW, a nation cannot be “open” for everyone by definition , because it would contradict the meaning of this word. Search for its meaning and Latin origin.
No, Questioner, you are incorrect. America is open to all who are 1. invited, and or 2. who come here to become an American. Your flavor of nationalism tends to be non inclusionary and dark and you can define that in any way you like, but I know how others will define it.
Your absolute and narrow interpretation of the Nick Fuente doctrine limits your ability to understand what the Constitution intends and ensures. And if you are not able to articulate a more reasonable and inclusive America you will remain on the fringe of the Right and be defined as an extremeist.
And I am not a big fan of Shapiro’s. Not because I disagree with what he has to say so much but his style and high pitched whinning voice annoys the hell out of me.
Questioner:
You’re tossing out more dog whistles than an DNC convention.
commodude-
excellent observation…
Cotour: Face the reality. Okay, I know it is often difficult for Liberals/Leftists to accept a fact, if it does not fit to own ideology. Your “shiny” type of civic naionalism has already failed. You may know that there is already a wider discussion of a coming second American civil war.
And now we get down to the real issue that you are here to promote, “The coming second American civil war”.
Questioner, again, you write like a Chinaman, or a man from China if that is an insult to you, and I beleive that you are here to promote exactly what you have just stated.
Understand, we are currently in a second American civil war and it is a political civil war and that is how this war will be fought. What you in your naivet’e see and are promoting is a “Hot” American civil war, and we are nowhere near such a situation and I do not see that happeneing in any meaningful way any time soon ANYWHERE.
That is until people on the extreme Left take over the Congress, the Senate and the presidency and they hollow out the Constitution and eliminate the First and the Second Amendments. Delivering our country to the Chinese who will with ease take over the planet as the Globalist agenda is delivered by the Leftists like Soros and the rest.
(You apparently being a Chinese, or foreign at least, operative should be happy in my recognizing your long term agenda. Or maybe not so happy.)
THEN there will be the real possibility of a HOT civil war of some sort developing, and at that point our conversation becomes really becomes irrelevant.
In this second American political civil war we have a comptent, although rough around the edges leader, that is forcfully prosecuting the war as best as he can, and his name is Donald J. Trump. And he is the best hope in this new and emerging situation that America has before it.
The question remains, who takes over from Trump in 2024? And my choice because this situation will tend to become more intense a battle hardened American warrior will be needed. And that person IMO is someone like Allen West, or possibly Mike Pompeo? Either would be fine with me.
So Questioner, say hello to president 習近平皇帝 for me and let him know that we are aware of his plans.
And, Nick Fuete? He is attempting to create some traction through his controversal extreme Right wing politics and he is just too young and idealistic and inexperienced, just like Ben Shapero, to be taken seriously.
Cotour:
Thank you for your response. What annoys me in your case, is your refusal to learn from facts and reality and to leave your established, ideological ways. You are a difficult partner for an interesting open discussion.
Nevertheless, I do not quite give up. What do you say as a Liberal to the following? It is interesting to note what John Mearsheimer that Obama said about America, namely that it is the real case with a need for nation-building. If that’s what Obama really said, I can only applaud to this insight. This attached link presents to you the inspiring lecture by Prof. Mearsheimer on the end of the hegemony of liberal democracies to which I refer to by my remark above.
One more thing to clarify: I do not propose or promote any concrete measures or political actions here, even if you may want to suggest that. I am just a questioner, an observer, who questions and comments on certain questionable convictions and ideologies. Please do not lay thoughts or ideas in my mouths, which I did not say. Thank you.
The Great Delusion: Liberal Dreams and International Realities | SOAS University of London
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni9rncx8ceA
Questioner,
you claim to be questioning out of intellectual curiosity, however, your posts contain both undercurrents of questionable ideologies and a poor command of the English language, despite the availability of very good translation programs available gratis.
Your protests to the contrary notwithstanding, you have all the credibility of a push poller or a used car salesman.
I’ve engaged in discussions with Cotour on occasion, and find him a hone for argument.
As to the end of hegemony for liberal democracies, there is only one power which could claim to be the hegemon in today’s world, and that is the US. As we are not, and have never been a Democracy, liberal democracies have, by definition, never achieved hegemony.
Cotour–
I would guess, an Eastern block country, but just a guess.
commodude
–good stuff, once again!
Jordan Peterson –
“Nihilism, Totalitarianism, and The Divine Individual”
excerpted from “New Years Letter to the World”
(with great visuals)
https://youtu.be/MdsVC_qR4t0
5:33
Questioner:
You not being an American causes me to approach you in a very different manner. Why? Because the things that you propose are simplistic at best, and your not fully understanding the American mind, the purpose of the Constitution and the internal thought process of actual Americans is inaccurate.
You probably being from a Communist country that I would guess was at least 4 to 5000 miles away for certain reasons, my guess is China, could be Ukraine (?) explains your attitude toward power and your embracing such a young and what could be described as a Right wing extremist in the American political conversation, Nick Fuente. You either like his extremeism because you personally respect that, and / or you have been directed to do so with the goal of disrupting and confusing the American public to further other agendas to weaken America on a more Conservative website.
And your not understanding what exactly America is, and is not, related to our Constitution and who is desirable and who is not, also exposes you for what you are, IMO an operative of some sort and a provocateur.
Colonel Joshua Chamberlain
speech to Maine regiment deserters
https://youtu.be/uTZSwgnWtuA
4:51
Cotour:
Demography is destiny. Curt Doolittle presents (after his comprehensive analysis of the situation) his unusual ideas to solve America’s significant problems. What do you think, are they valid solutions? (BTW: Fuentes, not Fuente!!!)
Curt Doolittle and John Mark: THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD and OUR CHOICE in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAj7-S6oBo
Commo-Dude:
John Mearsheimer’s definition of “liberal” may differ much from yours. You prove that you did not view the video, otherwise you would knew what his definition is about. BTW, what about your command of Chinese language? I assume, not very advanced. Yes, Cotour is one of the more interesting political contributor to this blog. He seems to own at least sometimes a portion of humor. Prove yourself in this regard.
Entschuldigen zie bitte?
My command of any Asian language is non-existent, however, were I to engage in a foreign language on a platform in that language I would take great pains to ensure my translations were correct and clear, to include regional colloquialisms.
“Liberal” is a relative term, not fixed to one point, it is completely relative and open to individual interpretation.
No, I don’t view videos, I refuse to donate hits, hence revenue, to any “channel” trumpeting any political screed. For that matter I do nothing on command.
Thank you for outing yourself as one of chairman Mao’s little helpers, it’s not surprising you bow to the shrine in Shaoshan. Thankfully your ilk have far too much to worry about at home to truly attempt to project power outwards.
Dear Mom,
Off for “retraining”, please don’t worry about me, see you soon.
https://youtu.be/7P3LqdEHqFY
After retraining, president 習近平皇帝 style.
https://youtu.be/PSWxlaYKoMw
Wayne:
I guess you’re a libertarian. For this reason, the philosophical ideas of Curt Doolittle (propertarianism) should be of great interest for you. His philosophy could be interpreted as an evolution of libertarianism. Or do you see it differently?
Propertarianism – Reforming Libertarianism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR2L_O5rDek
Cotour: :-)
“12 conservative principles in 12 minutes”
Jordan B Peterson
https://youtu.be/_MyduTaCh18
12:29
Wayne:
These are not exactly conservative principles in the sense of political philosophy, however a great advance on the left-wing insanity of the dominant cultural Marxism. With all this, it must not be forgotten: J . B. Peterson is not a conservative. From a conservative or right-wing perspective, he is a left-liberal, even if he calls himself a traditional liberal.
It might be of interest, which people in the background with big money made this man so well known in the media (search for Vox Day). There is also the suspicion that Peterson has the function of a political gatekeeper.
Jordan Peterson vs Peter Jordanson
joe rogan experience
[Parody Alert]
https://youtu.be/buD2RM0xChM
5:07
Wayne:
It seems to me that you know much about Peterson. What do you think is the background role of Peterson? Do you really think that he is a genuine personality who acts freely? Does America not have enough fake Conservatives? Hey, Wayne, more worse are even Cuckservatives. See below.
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Wayne:
I am quoting Vox Day’s book introduction (“Jordanetics”):
“Jordan Peterson is believed by many to be the greatest thinker that humanity has ever known. He is Father Figure, Philosopher-King, and Prophet to the millions of young men who are his most fervent fans and followers. He is the central figure of the Intellectual Dark Web, an academic celebrity, and an unparalleled media phenomenon who has shattered all conceptions of what it means to be modern celebrity in the Internet Age.
He has, by his own admission, thought thoughts that no man has ever thought before. He has dared to dream dreams that no man has ever dreamed before.
Of course, Jordan Peterson also happens to be a narcissist, a charlatan, and an intellectual con man who doesn’t even bother to teach the subjects upon which he lectures. He is a defender of free speech who silences other speakers, a fearless free-thinker who never hesitates to run away from debates, difficult questions, and controversial issues, a philosopher who rejects the conventional definition of truth, and a learned professor who has failed to read most of the great classics of the Western canon. He is, in short, a shameless and unrepentant fraud who lacks even a modicum of intellectual integrity.
But is Jordan Peterson more than a mere fraud? Is he something more sinister, more unbalanced, and even more dangerous? In Jordanetics: A Journey into the Mind of Humanity’s Greatest Thinker, political philosopher Vox Day delves deeply into the core philosophy that Jordan Peterson advocates in both his written works and his video lectures. In doing so, Day methodically builds a shocking case that will convince even the most skeptical Jordan Peterson supporter to reconsider both the man and his teachings.”
“He is a defender of free speech who silences other speakers, ”
Please support this assertion, where and when has JP stifled anothers right to speak? Please be specific.
Jordan Pertersen, from what I have observed, is a clinical pschologist and professor and he professes his beliefs and those beliefs are based on his studies and his considerable professional experience and his beliefs in basic freedoms and Liberty and the hurtful, dark and injurious ways of the Left. He was a victim of the “Politically correct” and “Social justice warriors” in Canada.
Why does he represent such a threat to you and your cause / agenda to stir the political pot in America? (Thats a rhetorical question)
Do you think that 習近平皇帝 really looks like Whinnie The Poo?
THE SON THAT JUST KEEPS ON GIVING
This is a little human interest story. You have got to appreciate this kid, he must be a pisser to hang out with, keeps you laughing for hours. Might get you killed or locked up, but fun just the same.
Who’s son just keeps on giving? Joe Bidens son, Hunter. You have to step back to fully appreciate just what this young man, a son of privilege, has accomplished in life. His father must just be shaking his head and thinking: What more can I do? This kid is killing me!
The conversation around the Thanksgiving dinner table must be fascinating at the Biden house. A prime reality show conceptm I would think. Fight fire with fire, reality TV is what made Trump president. And these are just the story’s that are known, who knows just how deep this kids aspirations and his fathers “Help” go?
1. Hunter sits on the board of banking company, MBNA, right out of law school. His qualifications? His father worked on getting passed a bill related to bankruptcy that the company needed. Joe Biden received $216K in a donation from the company, and his son Hunter received $100K in salary. (Coincidence)
2. Hunter Biden sits on the board of AMTRAK, nominated by a fellow Senator, his qualifications? He road AMTRAK trains a lot going to work in Washington. And of course his father being a Senator he had great influence related to AMTRAK. Why wouldn’t AMTRAK hire Hunter Biden? (Coincidence)
3. 2013, Hunter Biden is thrown out of the Navy for failing a drug test, he apparently liked cocaine (?).
4. Hunter Biden divoces his wife with whom he had 3 children, and marries his dead brothers widow.
5. Hunter Biden divorces his new bride, the widow of his brother.
6. Hunter Biden flys with his father while the Vice president on Air Force 2 to China and secures a $1 BILLION DOLLAR “Investment” in his hedge fund company, which is later increased by another $500 Million dollars. (Nothing to see here)
7. And we have all heard of this one: Hunter Biden is hired to sit on the board of Ukrainian energy company, Burisma which pays his company $160 to $220K per month to the tune of millions of dollars. His qualifications? None, other than he is the son of the vice president Joe Biden who is overseeing the U.S. policy as it relates to Ukraine.
And this last listed “Business” adventure of Hunter Biden and him leveraging his fathers position as a Senator and as a vice president may well cost his father his position as a presidential candidate. IMO you can bet on that one.
So all of you fathers out there, have a son with some problems? He is a challenge? You worry about what may happen to him? You worry what may happen to you because of him? Here is a little perspective for you to consider. You got nothing on Joe and Hunter Biden.
Man that Biden reality show idea is golden! Hell, this kid deserves a 3 hour movie! I am in aw.
Cotour–
Slight correction for #3…. Hunter LOVES cocaine.
Questioner–
“The adherents of mass movements are identical & interchangeable.”
I’m not going to say you’re a Nazi, but if the boot fits, put it on.
I Wake Up Early
Jocko Willink / Akira the Don 2019
https://youtu.be/dytkGtCK2Ks
5:20
Cotour:
You demand: “Please support this assertion, where and when has JP stifled anothers right to speak? Please be specific.”
It is Vox Day’s assertion, which was quoted by me. He wrote a complete book about J. Peterson, which includes all your required proves and examples.
https://www.amazon.com/Jordanetics-Journey-Humanitys-Greatest-Thinker/dp/B07NGXQBLY/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=Vox+day&qid=1574308981&sr=8-6
Questioner:
You being a non American foreign operator you again demonstrate your lack of understanding and nuance. I did not demand anything from you. I politely asked you to “Please be specific”.
“Jordan Peterson is believed by many to be the greatest thinker that humanity has ever known.”. A bit hyperbolic, no? Do you think this guy has a beef with Mr. Peterson? Probably some sort of Leftist maybe that has been butt hurt by Petersons revealing them for what they are?
And I have never thought so highly of Mr. Peterson, I think that of no man (Or woman) but I do think he has something to offer in regards to the human condition and the nature of man. And he being an intellectual and I would assume at some point WAS some flavor of Liberal being a Canadian and being an intellectual and an educator / professor but he has seen them all for what they are after they attacked him for being honest about their intent. And he is no longer aligned with such oppressive and anti freedom and anti Liberty Socialism.
Questioner:
Being an extremist, whether you are on the Left or the Right only means that you are an extremeist. Your ignorance on this subject and what America is and is not is boundless.
“Vox Day”:
“Beale (Vox Day) describes himself as a Christian nationalist. He has been described as an alt-right personality by Wired, and a leader of the alt-right by Business Insider. Writing for Publishers Weekly, Kimberly Winston described Beale as a “fundamentalist Southern Baptist”, but other journalists have made more pointed characterizations, such as Mike VanHelder’s assertion in Popular Science that Beale’s views are “white supremacist”.
White supremacy:
Day has been supportive of the white supremacist Fourteen Words slogan, promoting it in his Sixteen points of the Alt-Right, which placed the sentence “we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children” as the fourteenth point.
Concerning the notion of white supremacy, Day has said, “white supremacy simply isn’t true. Whites are not superior, but whites are the only tribe willing and able to maintain Western civilization because they are the only tribe that truly values it. The answer for those who support Western civilization, regardless of sex, color, or religion, is to embrace white tribalism, white separatism, and especially white Christian masculine rule.”
Cotour:
I am not responsible for what Vox Day says or publishes. However, there is nothing more wrong than to characterize him as a “white” nationalist, simply because he is not a white man! He says that he is mainly descended from Mexicans and Native Americans.
You as a self-described conservative man should know best that we cannot trust liberal and leftist media in any way. They are lying to full extent. I notice that you argue exactly like Leftists/Marxists. For example in regard to Marxist term “white nationalism”. That does not fit to a real Conservative. Please check yourself here.
Vox Day favors exactly what a true Conservative should stand for, in short: God, Nation and Family.
I think Vox Day is not wrong if he says (as many others say): The continued existence of Western civilization is linked to the further existence of the white man as group of significant size and influence. Your friend Jesse Lee Peterson says exactly the same! He (as a black man) goes even further. Take another look at the video I linked here a week ago.
In my opinion, it is extremist and racist to deny a particular group the right to their further, special existence. This requirement should be applied to each group, regardless of whether they are Africans, Asians or Caucasians. That is real diversity.
That quote about “VOX” was not written by me, it was a Wiki entry.
And there are elements of what he observes that I agree with related to the presevation of Western culture, but by presenting as an extremist or a “White Supremacist” he, just like Nick Fumente, relegates himself to being defined as a zealot and an extremeist.
And that is going nowhere.
For my readers, I decided just now to do a little research into Questioner, who surely does appear to be a foreign troll aimed at disrupting American values.
It appears that based on his or IP address he is based in Germany.
How cute. If I had to guess it appears that a neo-Nazi has decided to comment on a website run by a Jewish conservative.
Too funny.
I wonder if Nick Fumente knows where he hails from? The mother land of real, no BS Nationalism, and he seems to know something about rockets. But then again the enslaved Jews that assembled the V2 rockets also knew something about rockets.
Questioner, you are not doing Mr. Fumente any good, at least not here on BTB.
Back to more important things:
Hunter Biden and his unbounded enthusiasm for life as an American political prince: Hunter just the other day added to his personal accomplishments and was scientifically named in a paternity suit as the father of a new baby.
And this just in: Ukraine indicts head of Burisma and names Hunter Biden in the indictment.
https://youtu.be/9xb4HJmUxdo
He is Joe Bidens son, and he just keeps on giving. In the end Trump again wins and reveals what everyone with a half a brain knows, Hunter was just a cash conduit and an opportunist that leveraged his famous and politically empowered father to enrich himself and his family.
As with the Biden quid pro quo, the Uranium One deal needs investigating. Who knows where all the axe will fall.
I suspect with the coming investigations being released to the public, I beleive on Dec 9th to begin, I expect that at least one if not all of them will find themselves parked right outside of one door, Hillary “Ma Barker” Clinton.
All roads corrupt lead to Hillary Clinton, let us not be naive.
I can not find any major news organization reporting the alleged Ukrainian indictments related to Burisma and the Bidens, but I did find this this morning in the washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/graham-launches-probe-into-bidens-burisma-and-ukraine/2019/11/21/5a5675b4-0ca5-11ea-97ac-a7ccc8dd1ebc_story.html
And that combined with the beginning of the releasing on the ongoing investigations related the the abuses of power by the leadership of the FBI, DOJ and CIA will certainly change in a dramatic manner the ongoing political warfare that we are all witness to.
And it will in the end be a good thing for this is where the Constitution has delivered us to, and the people must continue to absorb it all, weigh it all, and comment on these things before them.
Things are as they should be.
MET A FREIND AT THE LOCAL DINER THIS MORNING
My friend is a good and well meaning American, and he is a never Trumper. Despises Trump, thinks all he is up to is 100 percent doing the president thing for his own personal enrichment, period. (Trumps personal wealth has declined by $1.5 Billion to date, he may just be a millionaire by the time he is done) Sees Trump not as any kind of a patriot, sees him only as a Putin puppet, beleives he is controlled by Putin still. (Even though a two year $32 million dollar investigation by the best that the DOJ and the FBI had says differently). My friend sees everything in absolute terms.
I asked him: “Please point out how Trump’s leadership threatens the Constitution, what is he doing that you see as accomplishing what you say he is doing?”
His answer: “Trump is just in it for himself, and he is controlled by Putin”. Thats it, nothing more to add.
He asked me: “Did you watch the hearings?” “All of those witnesses were very intelligent and they were moral, really good people, patriots”.
Me: “I agree, they were all highly intelligent, impressed the hell out of me, and all very well spoken. Just the kind of people who you want doing the jobs that they have”.
But that is not leadership, they are employees. As they all essentially agreed with no matter the politics or agenda they were tasked with promoting.
These highly intelligent and well spoken diplomats, patriots, were hired to do a job, and that job is to as best as they can manifest the leaderships agenda. And to be fired if they are not thought to be the correct person for the job that the leadership sees and wants done. And that is their lot in life, that is what they signed up for. Or to quit if they are so conflicted that they can not in good conscience do their assigned jobs.
What did Barack Obama do when he became president? He fired all of Bush’s appointed diplomats. And that is probably what Trump should have done, but he did not. Why? (Trump has been a little busy lately) Because those EMPLOYEES although very smart and highly intelligent, well spoken and patriotic in their own way may bring with them the agenda that has been established in the past and may be well invested in that agenda and will tend to resist the change that the people of America through their electing a new president wanted. Sorry, there are just consequences to elections.
I hired Trump to NOT do what was done in the past in regards to just about everything that has gone on the the past 30 or 40 years in American goverment, in Washington D.C. especially.
So there are very big differences between good and very intelligent people being hired to do a particular job, and leadership. Leadership for reasons that are not exactly quantifiable and definable are hired to do things in the manner more or less as they see fit within the parameters of their job description. That is what they were empowered by the people to do. The employees operate within a more defined black and white set of parameters, and leadership operates within or without to certain degrees a more gray set of parameters of operation.
Bureaucrats are the gears that allow forward and reverse motion, leadership is the driver at the wheel and on the gas peddle that says what direction the bureaucracy is going and how fast. And when the bureaucracy comes to beleive that they are the driver of the policy and agenda then they must be replaced. There is always certain risk in leadership, but that is how a new direction and the potential for real progress is fulfilled. Bureaucracy can never make progress, bureaucracy can only create more and more bureaucracy, that is the nature of bureaucracy. Employees, bureaucracrats in this case, as good as they may be at their jobs can only maintain “good” or “bad” policy depending on your political perspective and opinion, and that will in time destroy us all by stagnation and the unsustainable growth of the bureaucracy through the lack of real leadership and vision. Bureaucracy embraced is the manure where Socialism and Communism sprouts and grows.
Real leadership is never to be confused with the opinions or the politics of employees hired to do a job. NEVER. But people tend to confuse the two all the time.