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	Comments on: The plan for clearing Perseverance&#8217;s sample carousel of debris	</title>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Star Trek Next Gen
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek Next Gen<br />
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<a href="https://youtu.be/4RmKTAkNacw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/4RmKTAkNacw</a><br />
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 06:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-plan-for-clearing-perseverances-sample-carousel-of-debris/#comment-1275685&quot;&gt;Edward&lt;/a&gt;.

This is the equatorial regions. There is no water ice or dry ice in the air or on the surface, at all.

However, it seems too many people watch too many modern sci-fi movies and think all you need to do is regulate the transmonitor in the electron tube and the resulting energy will blow debris away. :)

Fixing this on a robot tens of millions of miles away on an alien planet is not simple. The science and engineering teams have apparently thought this out in detail in design, and are now very carefully attempting it in practice.

One point: They don&#039;t want the material to fall in the hole, as that will then block its use for good. They want to dislodge it so that it falls out entirely. If you look close at the two large pieces, the top one seems weakly balanced in the air, and might fall out with little problem. The bottom one I think will be more problematic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-plan-for-clearing-perseverances-sample-carousel-of-debris/#comment-1275685">Edward</a>.</p>
<p>This is the equatorial regions. There is no water ice or dry ice in the air or on the surface, at all.</p>
<p>However, it seems too many people watch too many modern sci-fi movies and think all you need to do is regulate the transmonitor in the electron tube and the resulting energy will blow debris away. :)</p>
<p>Fixing this on a robot tens of millions of miles away on an alien planet is not simple. The science and engineering teams have apparently thought this out in detail in design, and are now very carefully attempting it in practice.</p>
<p>One point: They don&#8217;t want the material to fall in the hole, as that will then block its use for good. They want to dislodge it so that it falls out entirely. If you look close at the two large pieces, the top one seems weakly balanced in the air, and might fall out with little problem. The bottom one I think will be more problematic.</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blair Ivey wrote: &quot;&lt;em&gt;And it’s cold. The material may be frozen to the structure.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; 

Keep in mind that the atmosphere is fairly dry, so if it is frozen to the structure it is probably not water ice but may be carbon dioxide ice (dry ice).  Is Perseverance cold enough for dry ice to form?  It doesn&#039;t look like it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blair Ivey wrote: &#8220;<em>And it’s cold. The material may be frozen to the structure.</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>Keep in mind that the atmosphere is fairly dry, so if it is frozen to the structure it is probably not water ice but may be carbon dioxide ice (dry ice).  Is Perseverance cold enough for dry ice to form?  It doesn&#8217;t look like it.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blair-
point taken.
Q: is this the lander with the laser?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blair-<br />
point taken.<br />
Q: is this the lander with the laser?</p>
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		By: pawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe the vibration from driving over some distance or into a rock might dislodge something. The arm itself could definitly wack something if done in a conservative manner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the vibration from driving over some distance or into a rock might dislodge something. The arm itself could definitly wack something if done in a conservative manner.</p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2022 07:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeff Wright and Wayne:

Remember, it&#039;s 0.3G. And while there is no scale, it may be unlikely there is rise enough nearby to move the material. And it&#039;s cold. The material may be frozen to the structure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Wright and Wayne:</p>
<p>Remember, it&#8217;s 0.3G. And while there is no scale, it may be unlikely there is rise enough nearby to move the material. And it&#8217;s cold. The material may be frozen to the structure.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2022 02:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeff--
 I like, that type of thinking!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff&#8211;<br />
 I like, that type of thinking!</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2022 01:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just drive up a small rise and it will slide into the hole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just drive up a small rise and it will slide into the hole.</p>
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		By: BtB’s Original Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BtB’s Original Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob - Bravo Zulu for the Saturday post.  FYI - Studies have even reported that up to 70% of people work at least one weekend a month, and about 35% of employed Americans are working on any given weekend. Also fyi there is a heated discussion currently on the Weightlessness article from yesterday, and your input would be appreciated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; Bravo Zulu for the Saturday post.  FYI &#8211; Studies have even reported that up to 70% of people work at least one weekend a month, and about 35% of employed Americans are working on any given weekend. Also fyi there is a heated discussion currently on the Weightlessness article from yesterday, and your input would be appreciated.</p>
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