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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109127&quot;&gt;wade&lt;/a&gt;.

I bet. Cause it never will. It aint a bird, its a spqcecraft that flew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109127">wade</a>.</p>
<p>I bet. Cause it never will. It aint a bird, its a spqcecraft that flew.</p>
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		By: Chris Kirkendall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Kirkendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes - it really brought into the focus the challenges of long-term space travel - but also provided some hope that it CAN be done, if done right...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; it really brought into the focus the challenges of long-term space travel &#8211; but also provided some hope that it CAN be done, if done right&#8230;</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109363&quot;&gt;Chris Kirkendall&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the kind review. I am glad you liked &lt;em&gt;Leaving Earth&lt;/em&gt;. I am also sure that it is now giving you a better idea of the context of what the Russians and Chinese are doing in space, vs the U.S.

It also makes clear how much of a joke Orion is. There is no way is that capsule an interplanetary spaceship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109363">Chris Kirkendall</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the kind review. I am glad you liked <em>Leaving Earth</em>. I am also sure that it is now giving you a better idea of the context of what the Russians and Chinese are doing in space, vs the U.S.</p>
<p>It also makes clear how much of a joke Orion is. There is no way is that capsule an interplanetary spaceship.</p>
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		By: Chris Kirkendall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Kirkendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109363&quot;&gt;Chris Kirkendall&lt;/a&gt;.

OOPS - meant Skylab, not Spacelab...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109363">Chris Kirkendall</a>.</p>
<p>OOPS &#8211; meant Skylab, not Spacelab&#8230;</p>
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		By: Chris Kirkendall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Kirkendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109299&quot;&gt;Robert Zimmerman&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the enlightenment, Bob ! !  That makes a lot of sense to me...

BTW - during a discussion of long-term spaceflight a few months ago, you recommended to a couple of us to read your book Leaving Earth, which I did while on vaction back in May, and I would highly recommend it to anyone. It was a lot more interesting than I thought it would be - I was always more thrilled with things like the pioneering first launches into space, or the Apollo Moon landing, even the Shuttle, but had no idea the incredible challenges faced by the many Astronauts &#038; Cosmonauts on Spacelab, Mir, and eventually the ISS, often having to adapt on the fly to new &#038; unforseen circumstances. There were times of real danger - things I&#039;d never heard about - and moments of humor as well. Excellent read...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109299">Robert Zimmerman</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the enlightenment, Bob ! !  That makes a lot of sense to me&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; during a discussion of long-term spaceflight a few months ago, you recommended to a couple of us to read your book Leaving Earth, which I did while on vaction back in May, and I would highly recommend it to anyone. It was a lot more interesting than I thought it would be &#8211; I was always more thrilled with things like the pioneering first launches into space, or the Apollo Moon landing, even the Shuttle, but had no idea the incredible challenges faced by the many Astronauts &amp; Cosmonauts on Spacelab, Mir, and eventually the ISS, often having to adapt on the fly to new &amp; unforseen circumstances. There were times of real danger &#8211; things I&#8217;d never heard about &#8211; and moments of humor as well. Excellent read&#8230;</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109293&quot;&gt;Chris Kirkendall&lt;/a&gt;.

The shuttle had a toilet. And yes, it makes no sense to plan on doing interplanetary travel without one, which provides us clear evidence that NASA&#039;S SLS system and Orion capsule is not serious about doing interplanetary travel.

As for Dragon, I don&#039;t think it has a toilet, but then, it was specifically designed just to get people up the ISS and low Earth orbit. If SpaceX gets Falcon Heavy flying they will have the capacity to build a much more sophisticated spacecraft. Or not. The cheaper and smarter choice would be to use Dragon to get into orbit, and a Bigelow space module (with restroom) to go beyond.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109293">Chris Kirkendall</a>.</p>
<p>The shuttle had a toilet. And yes, it makes no sense to plan on doing interplanetary travel without one, which provides us clear evidence that NASA&#8217;S SLS system and Orion capsule is not serious about doing interplanetary travel.</p>
<p>As for Dragon, I don&#8217;t think it has a toilet, but then, it was specifically designed just to get people up the ISS and low Earth orbit. If SpaceX gets Falcon Heavy flying they will have the capacity to build a much more sophisticated spacecraft. Or not. The cheaper and smarter choice would be to use Dragon to get into orbit, and a Bigelow space module (with restroom) to go beyond.</p>
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		By: Chris Kirkendall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Kirkendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting topic I hadn&#039;t thought about before re: the new generation of spacecraft. The Shuttle had a toliet, right? I thought those &quot;diapers&quot; were only used during the launch phase &#038; once in orbit they used some type of sealable bags for waste  - anyone know? What about SpaceX&#039;s Dragon - I assume it also does NOT have a tolilet system - or does it ??? Knowing them, it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if they already had something in the works...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting topic I hadn&#8217;t thought about before re: the new generation of spacecraft. The Shuttle had a toliet, right? I thought those &#8220;diapers&#8221; were only used during the launch phase &amp; once in orbit they used some type of sealable bags for waste  &#8211; anyone know? What about SpaceX&#8217;s Dragon &#8211; I assume it also does NOT have a tolilet system &#8211; or does it ??? Knowing them, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if they already had something in the works&#8230;</p>
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		By: Chris Kirkendall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Kirkendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109147&quot;&gt;joe&lt;/a&gt;.

HA ! !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-russians-are-including-a-bathroom-in-their-next-generation-manned-vehicle-something-they-note-orion-will-not-have/#comment-109147">joe</a>.</p>
<p>HA ! !</p>
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		By: Pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe they plan on getting to the moon before anyone has to use the head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they plan on getting to the moon before anyone has to use the head.</p>
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		By: joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2013 22:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[looks like a crappy situation to me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like a crappy situation to me!</p>
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		By: wade		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2013 07:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the SLS and the Orion are birds that will Never Fly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the SLS and the Orion are birds that will Never Fly.</p>
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		By: DougSpace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DougSpace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2013 22:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man, that&#039;s got to add up to a lot of diapers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, that&#8217;s got to add up to a lot of diapers!</p>
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