Comments on: The uncertainty of science: Star refuses to erupt when predicted https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/ Wed, 04 Dec 2024 01:32:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: agimarc https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534572 Wed, 04 Dec 2024 01:32:09 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534572 Apparently the bloody thing is gonna pop off when it wants to. Who knew? Cheers –

]]> By: agimarc https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534571 Wed, 04 Dec 2024 01:31:14 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534571 This is so cool. Yet another demonstration of the notion that the more we know, the more we demonstrate that we don’t know, which makes me smile. Cheers –

]]> By: Ray Van Dune https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534548 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 23:26:48 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534548 “There will be a discovery of a new type of pulsar that perfectly replicates the first five minutes of an “I Love Lucy” episode…”

Statistically it’s inevitable.

]]> By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534509 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 21:25:42 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534509 My prediction:

There will be a discovery of a new type of pulsar that perfectly replicates the first five minutes of an “I Love Lucy” episode so as to get SETI folks’ hopes up only to dash them yet again.

]]> By: Robert Zimmerman https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534500 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 19:34:45 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534500 In reply to Ray Van Dune.

Ray Van Dune: I took no offense at all. I was merely underlining the point we both were making. :)

]]> By: Ray Van Dune https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534499 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 19:32:53 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534499 Bob Z, my intent was not to criticize, but to merely point out that levels of uncertainty that we commonly assume / accept may have to change in the future.

I find nothing “wrong” with your statement at all, it is just symbolic of today’s typical level of understanding of natural phenomena… a level that may change fundamentally when / if Superhuman AI becomes real!

]]> By: pzatchok https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534496 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:44:16 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534496 If they acknowledged its gender it might cooperate and show off.

]]> By: Robert Zimmerman https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534492 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:26:54 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534492 In reply to Ray Van Dune.

Ray Van Dune: That sentence of mine that you quote is a variation of what cavers routinely say while mapping a cave. “The cave will do what the cave wants to do.” While geology and survey data might give you good hints (often correct) about what to expect, it is NEVER certain. To be as certain as this astronomer is always a mistake.

]]> By: wayne https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534485 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:10:57 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534485 “We know it has to happen…”

Said every string-theorist ever.

]]> By: Ray Van Dune https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-uncertainty-of-science-star-refuses-to-erupt-when-predicted/#comment-1534482 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 17:29:46 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=110359#comment-1534482 I have gotten into the habit of considering every speculation like this with the question of “What will Super-AI tell us?”

What will happen when questions about nature’s behavior become at least plausibly answerable because SAI agents will be able to access massive amounts of data, and draw conclusions that we can accept, but not clearly grasp the derivation of?

And then I read the last sentence… “This star system will do whatever it wants, despite the predictions of mere human beings.” We may have to reconsider such automatic assumptions, no?

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