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		By: Cotour		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the real world:

Just spoke to a nurse that runs three floors in a major NYC hospital, two neuro surgery and one of them is ICU.

I asked her: &quot;How is everything in your hospital?&quot;

&quot;Everything is pretty much normal, I have only two Covid patients in ICU now.&quot;

And she added that its sad that there have been many people that had not come to the hospital when they needed to because of the fear of the virus that needed brain surgery specifically that are in much worse condition because of it.

There is a real world cost to the atmosphere of fear that has been fostered in America related to the virus. None of this is ideal nor good nor bad, it just is what it is based on the decisions that people had to make given the information that they had (Or thought they had). Fear is a great motivator.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the real world:</p>
<p>Just spoke to a nurse that runs three floors in a major NYC hospital, two neuro surgery and one of them is ICU.</p>
<p>I asked her: &#8220;How is everything in your hospital?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Everything is pretty much normal, I have only two Covid patients in ICU now.&#8221;</p>
<p>And she added that its sad that there have been many people that had not come to the hospital when they needed to because of the fear of the virus that needed brain surgery specifically that are in much worse condition because of it.</p>
<p>There is a real world cost to the atmosphere of fear that has been fostered in America related to the virus. None of this is ideal nor good nor bad, it just is what it is based on the decisions that people had to make given the information that they had (Or thought they had). Fear is a great motivator.</p>
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		By: MDN		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob

While I empathize with your feelings I do not agree completely. The wave of hospitalizations and deaths in the beginning (Italy and Spain especially) were not fictional. They really happened because it IS a new and incredibly contagious virus.

But we have learned a lot since then, especially that contrary to most respiratory viruses CCP-19 is virtually no risk to the young and only a serious risk to the old and those with serious co-morbidities. So after flattening the curve we should have quickly moved on to good hygiene and social quarantining of only the most vulnerable. You can debate the definition of quickly, but 6-8 weeks as we were originally told was reasonable, 4 months going on permanent is decidedly not.

The big problem to me, restating my initial objection which I voiced here previously and which still has received virtually no attention, is that we granted our elected leaders these dictatorial powers with no grounding in law other than their self-proclaimed and conveniently vague “emergency power authority” for dealing with a “health” crisis. 

We accepted this given the coarse of world events and obvious uncertainty. However it is well past time to call them on this, and criminal (imho) for them to continue. Yet no one, elected or among the citizenry, is seriously raising hell over this and trying to force congress and our legislatures into emergency sessions to close this Rule Set Gap. 

This is now our biggest problem because we are letting them do this, and they are making it the new normal. This is America GDit, so let the lawsuits fly!!! We are a nation of laws and should refuse at accept lawless tyranny.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob</p>
<p>While I empathize with your feelings I do not agree completely. The wave of hospitalizations and deaths in the beginning (Italy and Spain especially) were not fictional. They really happened because it IS a new and incredibly contagious virus.</p>
<p>But we have learned a lot since then, especially that contrary to most respiratory viruses CCP-19 is virtually no risk to the young and only a serious risk to the old and those with serious co-morbidities. So after flattening the curve we should have quickly moved on to good hygiene and social quarantining of only the most vulnerable. You can debate the definition of quickly, but 6-8 weeks as we were originally told was reasonable, 4 months going on permanent is decidedly not.</p>
<p>The big problem to me, restating my initial objection which I voiced here previously and which still has received virtually no attention, is that we granted our elected leaders these dictatorial powers with no grounding in law other than their self-proclaimed and conveniently vague “emergency power authority” for dealing with a “health” crisis. </p>
<p>We accepted this given the coarse of world events and obvious uncertainty. However it is well past time to call them on this, and criminal (imho) for them to continue. Yet no one, elected or among the citizenry, is seriously raising hell over this and trying to force congress and our legislatures into emergency sessions to close this Rule Set Gap. </p>
<p>This is now our biggest problem because we are letting them do this, and they are making it the new normal. This is America GDit, so let the lawsuits fly!!! We are a nation of laws and should refuse at accept lawless tyranny.</p>
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