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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Captain Emeritus--
Let us never forget,  the chi-coms (with a little help from the Usual Suspects, their democrat-party pals) stole the complete designs for our W-88 Warhead.
(I would put forth the proposition, the only good Chinese-communist, is a dead Chinese-communist.)

&quot;It will be all over, in 40 minutes&quot;
https://youtu.be/S-V6MZlyCqE
2:22]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Emeritus&#8211;<br />
Let us never forget,  the chi-coms (with a little help from the Usual Suspects, their democrat-party pals) stole the complete designs for our W-88 Warhead.<br />
(I would put forth the proposition, the only good Chinese-communist, is a dead Chinese-communist.)</p>
<p>&#8220;It will be all over, in 40 minutes&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/S-V6MZlyCqE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/S-V6MZlyCqE</a><br />
2:22</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LocalFluff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 09:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would you have a look at what&#039;s going on with the Three Gorges Dam? It is kinda related to some of your Mars image comments and it could become the news of the year (in tough competition).

I don&#039;t know much at all about geology and hydrology, but I&#039;ve seen the before and after satellite photos of how the dam has deformed. It doesn&#039;t look good... I&#039;ve heard that there have been 90 land slides into the uprivers of the dam since completion, as the changing water level destabilizes the river banks. And the pressure of the water has increased seismic activity. Even some Chinese officials seem to say now that the dam is leaking and moving. Aren&#039;t those two bad words for dams?

Didn&#039;t another dam collapse kill 100,000+ people in 1975?
&quot;- Hey, let&#039;s do that dam(age) thing again!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you have a look at what&#8217;s going on with the Three Gorges Dam? It is kinda related to some of your Mars image comments and it could become the news of the year (in tough competition).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much at all about geology and hydrology, but I&#8217;ve seen the before and after satellite photos of how the dam has deformed. It doesn&#8217;t look good&#8230; I&#8217;ve heard that there have been 90 land slides into the uprivers of the dam since completion, as the changing water level destabilizes the river banks. And the pressure of the water has increased seismic activity. Even some Chinese officials seem to say now that the dam is leaking and moving. Aren&#8217;t those two bad words for dams?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t another dam collapse kill 100,000+ people in 1975?<br />
&#8220;- Hey, let&#8217;s do that dam(age) thing again!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Captain Emeritus,
I agree with you on all your points, especially the technology transfer.

Don&#039;t forget Harbor Freight and Tool!  This morning I bought Tianwen-2 there for $50 with the 50% coupon and a free multi-meter!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Emeritus,<br />
I agree with you on all your points, especially the technology transfer.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget Harbor Freight and Tool!  This morning I bought Tianwen-2 there for $50 with the 50% coupon and a free multi-meter!</p>
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		By: Captain Emeritus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Captain Emeritus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 00:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jay,
I watched the same video feeds early this morning as well. (eastern time)
I have watched the chinese communists closely, since the Clinton administration sold them guidance technology (from Litton Industries) to steer their big, dumb rockets with far greater accuracy than they could ever achieve on their own.
In my opinion, that was a treasonous act, that put my country in grave danger (still to this day)
The chinese communists are a very dangerous virus that infects the entire planet. 
Never to be trusted, or believed.
If &quot;they&quot; say it all worked and it&#039;s on the way to Mars, I&#039;ll have to wait till my government confirms it.
But, the main issue is, as long as we can buy their cheap junk from Walmart and others, what the heck, eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,<br />
I watched the same video feeds early this morning as well. (eastern time)<br />
I have watched the chinese communists closely, since the Clinton administration sold them guidance technology (from Litton Industries) to steer their big, dumb rockets with far greater accuracy than they could ever achieve on their own.<br />
In my opinion, that was a treasonous act, that put my country in grave danger (still to this day)<br />
The chinese communists are a very dangerous virus that infects the entire planet.<br />
Never to be trusted, or believed.<br />
If &#8220;they&#8221; say it all worked and it&#8217;s on the way to Mars, I&#8217;ll have to wait till my government confirms it.<br />
But, the main issue is, as long as we can buy their cheap junk from Walmart and others, what the heck, eh?</p>
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		By: Captainemeritus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Captainemeritus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mr. Zimmerman,
I&#039;m just feeling a bit snarky, lately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mr. Zimmerman,<br />
I&#8217;m just feeling a bit snarky, lately.</p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Captain Emeritus,
Yep, it is up there.  I was watching two uncensored live feeds, a twitter feed, and a forum last night during the launch.  Some of the feeds I was watching were shut down due to the CCP going after Youtube.  It was funny, one of the feeds was saying it blew up, but I believe they mistaken the booster separation for that.

After SECO and when the probe separated, CCTV reported success and started to put videos out.  Here is a highlight video of the launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9CDUK660c&#038;feature=youtu.be

Why the interest?  I have always been a fan of space and I track satellites.  I became fascinated with the Chinese space program over 20 years ago when I heard about &quot;Project 921&quot;, their manned space program.  Some sources said they were doing lift-body tests of spacecraft, with rumors of a mini-shuttle, but the program which became Shenzhou was a modified Soyuz.  I have watched this Tianwen-1 project with interest, since it looks so close to our rovers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Emeritus,<br />
Yep, it is up there.  I was watching two uncensored live feeds, a twitter feed, and a forum last night during the launch.  Some of the feeds I was watching were shut down due to the CCP going after Youtube.  It was funny, one of the feeds was saying it blew up, but I believe they mistaken the booster separation for that.</p>
<p>After SECO and when the probe separated, CCTV reported success and started to put videos out.  Here is a highlight video of the launch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9CDUK660c&#038;feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9CDUK660c&#038;feature=youtu.be</a></p>
<p>Why the interest?  I have always been a fan of space and I track satellites.  I became fascinated with the Chinese space program over 20 years ago when I heard about &#8220;Project 921&#8221;, their manned space program.  Some sources said they were doing lift-body tests of spacecraft, with rumors of a mini-shuttle, but the program which became Shenzhou was a modified Soyuz.  I have watched this Tianwen-1 project with interest, since it looks so close to our rovers.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Expanse
Pre-emptive rail-gun attack on Mars
https://youtu.be/9fgaMhcTxCY?t=131]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Expanse<br />
Pre-emptive rail-gun attack on Mars<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/9fgaMhcTxCY?t=131" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/9fgaMhcTxCY?t=131</a></p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 22:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/tianwen-1-successfully-launched-on-its-way-to-mars/#comment-1085213&quot;&gt;Captain Emeritus&lt;/a&gt;.

Captain Emeritus: They have confirmed that it completed the engine firing that put it into a solar orbit taking it to Mars, as well as the upper stage separation. If something else happened we would know, even if they denied it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/tianwen-1-successfully-launched-on-its-way-to-mars/#comment-1085213">Captain Emeritus</a>.</p>
<p>Captain Emeritus: They have confirmed that it completed the engine firing that put it into a solar orbit taking it to Mars, as well as the upper stage separation. If something else happened we would know, even if they denied it.</p>
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		By: Captain Emeritus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Captain Emeritus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 21:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there any proof it got out of the atmosphere?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any proof it got out of the atmosphere?</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps they want to have lots of good &quot;before&quot; pictures to compare to the &quot;after&quot; pictures so they can identify whatever wreckage the famous Martian anti-lander defenses generate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps they want to have lots of good &#8220;before&#8221; pictures to compare to the &#8220;after&#8221; pictures so they can identify whatever wreckage the famous Martian anti-lander defenses generate.</p>
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		By: LocalFluff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LocalFluff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why will it spend 2-3 months in Mars&#039; orbit surveying for a landing site? They don&#039;t know where they want to go? Do they think that the existing Mars maps are fake or something? And will their surveys compare to that of MRO&#039;s 50 cm telescope? Anyway, strange news are to be expected from that regime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why will it spend 2-3 months in Mars&#8217; orbit surveying for a landing site? They don&#8217;t know where they want to go? Do they think that the existing Mars maps are fake or something? And will their surveys compare to that of MRO&#8217;s 50 cm telescope? Anyway, strange news are to be expected from that regime.</p>
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