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		By: Idaho Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Idaho Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2021 00:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Simple test. Create an account at MailChimp for an organization such as Communusts United for the Dissolution of the United States. Send out the exact same type of mailing, except pushing leftist ideas. See how the fake organization is treated. Or, one could research how other (left leaning) clients are treated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple test. Create an account at MailChimp for an organization such as Communusts United for the Dissolution of the United States. Send out the exact same type of mailing, except pushing leftist ideas. See how the fake organization is treated. Or, one could research how other (left leaning) clients are treated.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2021 23:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe-
-didn&#039;t mean to personally poke you with a stick, just sayin&#039;---  perpetual rule-following is a double edged sword, cus&#039; our enemies have a veto, and they increasingly make ALL the rules. Nobody is following Marquess of Queensberry rules, except for us.

As Hillary Clinton showed us all, email is cake, on your own server.

pivoting....


Metallica, Megadeth, and The Who
&quot;Eminence of Holy Wars and Creeping Death&quot;
https://youtu.be/APOGz3EBzKE
4:13]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe-<br />
-didn&#8217;t mean to personally poke you with a stick, just sayin&#8217;&#8212;  perpetual rule-following is a double edged sword, cus&#8217; our enemies have a veto, and they increasingly make ALL the rules. Nobody is following Marquess of Queensberry rules, except for us.</p>
<p>As Hillary Clinton showed us all, email is cake, on your own server.</p>
<p>pivoting&#8230;.</p>
<p>Metallica, Megadeth, and The Who<br />
&#8220;Eminence of Holy Wars and Creeping Death&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/APOGz3EBzKE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/APOGz3EBzKE</a><br />
4:13</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2021 20:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/todays-blacklisted-americans-conservatives-on-the-email-provider-mailchimp/#comment-1121641&quot;&gt;Joe&lt;/a&gt;.

Joe: While such spam should be blocked and its distributors banned, I don&#039;t think this applies in this case. The messages were being sent to political figures, who are specifically exempted from such rules according to the article, based on the first amendment, which specifically states that such petitioning of elected officials and their bureaucratic minions cannot be infringed.

The email services can of course do what they want, but in this case I think it harbors on a partisan blacklisting of a conservative voice, merely because they are conservative. I strongly suspect that if you reviewed MailChimp&#039;s logs you would find many similar blasts from the leftist sources that prompted no similar banning by MailChimp..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/todays-blacklisted-americans-conservatives-on-the-email-provider-mailchimp/#comment-1121641">Joe</a>.</p>
<p>Joe: While such spam should be blocked and its distributors banned, I don&#8217;t think this applies in this case. The messages were being sent to political figures, who are specifically exempted from such rules according to the article, based on the first amendment, which specifically states that such petitioning of elected officials and their bureaucratic minions cannot be infringed.</p>
<p>The email services can of course do what they want, but in this case I think it harbors on a partisan blacklisting of a conservative voice, merely because they are conservative. I strongly suspect that if you reviewed MailChimp&#8217;s logs you would find many similar blasts from the leftist sources that prompted no similar banning by MailChimp..</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2021 19:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wayne,

I have had the obligation to shut down email systems that violated this rule. I have also been fired for not being willing to break that rule. Call it my weakness, but there are some like me who will follow the law when it comes to spam email. I won&#039;t tolerate it from anyone, nevermore their political party affiliation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne,</p>
<p>I have had the obligation to shut down email systems that violated this rule. I have also been fired for not being willing to break that rule. Call it my weakness, but there are some like me who will follow the law when it comes to spam email. I won&#8217;t tolerate it from anyone, nevermore their political party affiliation.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2021 13:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe--
Yowza.
 &#039;come on, man,&#039;.... you really think this is about unsolicited email?

This is the big (fatal) problem with conservatives, [and I say this as a conservative, although I&#039;ve almost rid myself of this particular flaw] they all think if they just follow &#039;the rules,&#039; everything will be ok.

V For Vendetta Speech - 
Seeds of Revolution
https://youtu.be/dKnjxT5HRJQ?t=65

&quot;Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn&#039;t there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, think, and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who&#039;s to blame? Well, certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you&#039;re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8211;<br />
Yowza.<br />
 &#8216;come on, man,&#8217;&#8230;. you really think this is about unsolicited email?</p>
<p>This is the big (fatal) problem with conservatives, [and I say this as a conservative, although I&#8217;ve almost rid myself of this particular flaw] they all think if they just follow &#8216;the rules,&#8217; everything will be ok.</p>
<p>V For Vendetta Speech &#8211;<br />
Seeds of Revolution<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/dKnjxT5HRJQ?t=65" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/dKnjxT5HRJQ?t=65</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn&#8217;t there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, think, and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who&#8217;s to blame? Well, certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you&#8217;re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. &#8220;</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2021 07:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If what the group did was assemble a list of names, upload it to MailChimp and then send an email blast, then yes they will get blocked. The CAN SPAM act does not allow unsolicited email (most spam comes from servers that fail to follow the regulations, hence the spam moniker). For a legitimate email company to survive, it must not allow any spam type actions. If the group used an opt out feature, honored it, and created their list correctly, then there is a problem. As described though, they put together a list, created an email campaign, and hit go.

You don’t do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what the group did was assemble a list of names, upload it to MailChimp and then send an email blast, then yes they will get blocked. The CAN SPAM act does not allow unsolicited email (most spam comes from servers that fail to follow the regulations, hence the spam moniker). For a legitimate email company to survive, it must not allow any spam type actions. If the group used an opt out feature, honored it, and created their list correctly, then there is a problem. As described though, they put together a list, created an email campaign, and hit go.</p>
<p>You don’t do that.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2021 03:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jerry--
Oh yeah! Using lefty woke-logic &#038; their propensity to psychologically project their true inner motivations, that&#039;s one racist name.
[For the record-- I think it&#039;s a stupid name but I have nothing against our simian ancestors. After all, &#039;it&#039;s a long way to the top, if you wanna rock-n-roll.] 

One lesson to be learned from this (besides the obvious one(s)): 
-&#062;Don&#039;t be so lazy in the internet-space, as to rely on 3rd party providers for everything you do. Email is easy to set up on your own server, why farm it out to people that hate your guts? And, who now have your entire email list.
(And tangentially, don&#039;t expect these tech companies to stream your long form videos for free, that&#039;s not their business model.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry&#8211;<br />
Oh yeah! Using lefty woke-logic &amp; their propensity to psychologically project their true inner motivations, that&#8217;s one racist name.<br />
[For the record&#8211; I think it&#8217;s a stupid name but I have nothing against our simian ancestors. After all, &#8216;it&#8217;s a long way to the top, if you wanna rock-n-roll.] </p>
<p>One lesson to be learned from this (besides the obvious one(s)):<br />
-&gt;Don&#8217;t be so lazy in the internet-space, as to rely on 3rd party providers for everything you do. Email is easy to set up on your own server, why farm it out to people that hate your guts? And, who now have your entire email list.<br />
(And tangentially, don&#8217;t expect these tech companies to stream your long form videos for free, that&#8217;s not their business model.)</p>
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		By: Jerry E Greenwood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry E Greenwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2021 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait till the woke go after their name.  You know it offends someone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait till the woke go after their name.  You know it offends someone.</p>
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		By: Ian C.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2021 23:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Noah,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I think MailChimp is probably good as is.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

How mean. Delicious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I think MailChimp is probably good as is.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How mean. Delicious.</p>
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		By: Noah Peal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noah Peal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2021 23:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Newspapers used to proudly affirm their political affiliation in their names, such as The Chicago Democrat.  If leftism is so much to be desired, why don&#039;t media and tech companies follow suit? The New York Times Democrat. Facebook Progressive. I think MailChimp is probably good as is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspapers used to proudly affirm their political affiliation in their names, such as The Chicago Democrat.  If leftism is so much to be desired, why don&#8217;t media and tech companies follow suit? The New York Times Democrat. Facebook Progressive. I think MailChimp is probably good as is.</p>
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