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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 23:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The next time any of you have to visit an Airport watch the TSA agents and their actions.

20 minute could change your view of what they do.

Shortly after 911 I had to fly with my young son out to California so he could spend time with his mother.
I did this every year for 6 years. Sometimes twice, first to drop off and again to pick up.
4 times out of 6 years me and or my son were chosen randomly to undergo extra inspections. Even though praying Muslims or burka covered middle Easterners were in line just ahead of or just behind us. 
Once I watched an 80 year old white woman get pulled out of line and taken behind security doors into another room for a body search. 80 Years old with a walker.

San Fransisco and Oakland airports are the pits.


I must also say though that I witnessed a cop get taken down by TSA agents when the cop blurted out while in the security line that he forgot to take his gun out of his bag. At that point 6 TSA agents hit him like a pack of rabid dogs and took him down. The whole time he was yelling &#039;but I&#039;m a police officer!!! AHHH!!!&quot;.
I looked at the guy next to me and said &quot;Well thats one guy who will be missing his flight today.&quot;
The security line never slowed down or missed a beat.

Cleveland Airport rocks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time any of you have to visit an Airport watch the TSA agents and their actions.</p>
<p>20 minute could change your view of what they do.</p>
<p>Shortly after 911 I had to fly with my young son out to California so he could spend time with his mother.<br />
I did this every year for 6 years. Sometimes twice, first to drop off and again to pick up.<br />
4 times out of 6 years me and or my son were chosen randomly to undergo extra inspections. Even though praying Muslims or burka covered middle Easterners were in line just ahead of or just behind us.<br />
Once I watched an 80 year old white woman get pulled out of line and taken behind security doors into another room for a body search. 80 Years old with a walker.</p>
<p>San Fransisco and Oakland airports are the pits.</p>
<p>I must also say though that I witnessed a cop get taken down by TSA agents when the cop blurted out while in the security line that he forgot to take his gun out of his bag. At that point 6 TSA agents hit him like a pack of rabid dogs and took him down. The whole time he was yelling &#8216;but I&#8217;m a police officer!!! AHHH!!!&#8221;.<br />
I looked at the guy next to me and said &#8220;Well thats one guy who will be missing his flight today.&#8221;<br />
The security line never slowed down or missed a beat.</p>
<p>Cleveland Airport rocks.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wyborski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wyborski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 16:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This teenager should simply yelled &quot;Allau Akbar!&quot; and the TSA would have left her alone, or given her priority service and arranged seat upgrades.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This teenager should simply yelled &#8220;Allau Akbar!&#8221; and the TSA would have left her alone, or given her priority service and arranged seat upgrades.</p>
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		By: Phill O		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phill O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 21:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any bets that the terrorists will start using the disabled now as they use the mentally challenged in the middle east?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any bets that the terrorists will start using the disabled now as they use the mentally challenged in the middle east?</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 02:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Edward:
Excellent points!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward:<br />
Excellent points!</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 00:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;... anyone with any brains ...&quot; 

Bureaucracies are designed to be used by people without any brains.  The intention being that the rules make the standard operating procedures, thus their treatment, identical for all people.  No one would possibly think (except for someone with some brains) that a fragile, disabled youngster might be confused and frightened by being manhandled by strangers after being separated from her comforting, calming, and familiar parent, guardian, or support person.  

However, this one-treatment-fits-all assumption runs afoul of the differences and idiosyncrasies between the victims -- er -- customers of the bureaucracy.  For instance, a zero tolerance policy can all too easily be (mis)interpreted as no Pop Tarts eaten into the shape of a gun or no fingers forming the shape of a gun.The zero tolerance was intended to be for the actual gun, but the brainless bureaucrat did not have the brains to realize this.    Who knew?  

With the TSA, and its bureaucratic public service, we all are assumed guilty -- and treated that way -- until we are proved innocent.  This poor victim in Memphis was assumed guilty and treated as such, right down to being arrested and charged.  

I stand corrected.  pzatchok pointed out that some certain, privileged-class people get through TSA checkpoints without the same level of scrutiny and assumption of guilt.  Only a racist would ever ponder the possibility that someone of the religion of jihad could possibly have any but peaceful intentions.  

Anyone want to bet that young Hannah is now on the No-Fly List?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; anyone with any brains &#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Bureaucracies are designed to be used by people without any brains.  The intention being that the rules make the standard operating procedures, thus their treatment, identical for all people.  No one would possibly think (except for someone with some brains) that a fragile, disabled youngster might be confused and frightened by being manhandled by strangers after being separated from her comforting, calming, and familiar parent, guardian, or support person.  </p>
<p>However, this one-treatment-fits-all assumption runs afoul of the differences and idiosyncrasies between the victims &#8212; er &#8212; customers of the bureaucracy.  For instance, a zero tolerance policy can all too easily be (mis)interpreted as no Pop Tarts eaten into the shape of a gun or no fingers forming the shape of a gun.The zero tolerance was intended to be for the actual gun, but the brainless bureaucrat did not have the brains to realize this.    Who knew?  </p>
<p>With the TSA, and its bureaucratic public service, we all are assumed guilty &#8212; and treated that way &#8212; until we are proved innocent.  This poor victim in Memphis was assumed guilty and treated as such, right down to being arrested and charged.  </p>
<p>I stand corrected.  pzatchok pointed out that some certain, privileged-class people get through TSA checkpoints without the same level of scrutiny and assumption of guilt.  Only a racist would ever ponder the possibility that someone of the religion of jihad could possibly have any but peaceful intentions.  </p>
<p>Anyone want to bet that young Hannah is now on the No-Fly List?</p>
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		By: maurice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maurice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 18:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Flying and all that comes along these days is a reason I take the train with my disabled wife. I am tired of the&quot;can you stand&quot; questions, the insane lines, the irradiation, and most of all the lack of humanity from a system that is just plain past its sell by date.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flying and all that comes along these days is a reason I take the train with my disabled wife. I am tired of the&#8221;can you stand&#8221; questions, the insane lines, the irradiation, and most of all the lack of humanity from a system that is just plain past its sell by date.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 17:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This story is picking up at least some traction-- I heard it on both the CBS &#038; ABC national-radio newsfeeds today, more than once.

Using the ADA against the TSA is brilliantly ironic.  In any sort of &quot;normal&quot; Universe, the TSA will be coughing up some money for Hannah.

(Huge portions of the ADA rules/regs are fairly logical &#038; most of us would agree with them, while other aspects are  absolutely onerous &#038; business-killers. For what reason these people aren&#039;t trained properly, I am totally convinced, is a combo of Cronyism &#038; Nanny-Statism gone mad.)
I can guarantee it--if I physically manhandled this young lady in Michigan &#038; I wasn&#039;t TSA; Adult Protective Services, Recipient Rights, and the local DA would be investigating my butt to death, while I was suspended without pay.
(In my current position, I just read, review, edit, &#038; counter-sign reports and no longer directly interact with people, but I still have to spend 40 hours a year being trained &#038; retrained, and I&#039;m held to a slighter higher standard of behavior than everyone else.)

pzatchok: What I&#039;m hearing you say.... we should possibly switch over to the Israeli Model of airport security.  Where they actually target &#038; profile potential threats, and do an excellent job of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is picking up at least some traction&#8211; I heard it on both the CBS &amp; ABC national-radio newsfeeds today, more than once.</p>
<p>Using the ADA against the TSA is brilliantly ironic.  In any sort of &#8220;normal&#8221; Universe, the TSA will be coughing up some money for Hannah.</p>
<p>(Huge portions of the ADA rules/regs are fairly logical &amp; most of us would agree with them, while other aspects are  absolutely onerous &amp; business-killers. For what reason these people aren&#8217;t trained properly, I am totally convinced, is a combo of Cronyism &amp; Nanny-Statism gone mad.)<br />
I can guarantee it&#8211;if I physically manhandled this young lady in Michigan &amp; I wasn&#8217;t TSA; Adult Protective Services, Recipient Rights, and the local DA would be investigating my butt to death, while I was suspended without pay.<br />
(In my current position, I just read, review, edit, &amp; counter-sign reports and no longer directly interact with people, but I still have to spend 40 hours a year being trained &amp; retrained, and I&#8217;m held to a slighter higher standard of behavior than everyone else.)</p>
<p>pzatchok: What I&#8217;m hearing you say&#8230;. we should possibly switch over to the Israeli Model of airport security.  Where they actually target &amp; profile potential threats, and do an excellent job of it.</p>
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		By: pzatchok		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pzatchok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 08:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can promise you she was singled out BECAUSE she posed no threat.

You don&#039;t actually think the TSA agents want to find a live bomb do you?  
Hell no! 
They will, and you can watch, let the more likely suspects pass by unhindered and go for the low hanging fruit. 

They don&#039;t want to be accused of profiling a Muslim looking or middle eastern looking person. That would be racist.

So go for the non threatening white people. A handy capped person or the elderly are the best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can promise you she was singled out BECAUSE she posed no threat.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t actually think the TSA agents want to find a live bomb do you?<br />
Hell no!<br />
They will, and you can watch, let the more likely suspects pass by unhindered and go for the low hanging fruit. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want to be accused of profiling a Muslim looking or middle eastern looking person. That would be racist.</p>
<p>So go for the non threatening white people. A handy capped person or the elderly are the best.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 05:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Copy of the lawsuit is at:
https://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/lawsuitagainst-tsa.pdf

Her lawyer is alleging violations of the ADA (American&#039;s with disabilities act) which is an excellent route to go, he&#039;s using one part of the Administrative State, against another part. 

--essentially, the allegation is TSA &quot;failed to make reasonable accommodation&#039;s,&quot; which is the &quot;killer-app&quot; in the ADA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copy of the lawsuit is at:<br />
<a href="https://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/lawsuitagainst-tsa.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/lawsuitagainst-tsa.pdf</a></p>
<p>Her lawyer is alleging violations of the ADA (American&#8217;s with disabilities act) which is an excellent route to go, he&#8217;s using one part of the Administrative State, against another part. </p>
<p>&#8211;essentially, the allegation is TSA &#8220;failed to make reasonable accommodation&#8217;s,&#8221; which is the &#8220;killer-app&#8221; in the ADA.</p>
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		By: hondo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hondo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 04:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Never forget - government employees - because the can - or at least think they can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never forget &#8211; government employees &#8211; because the can &#8211; or at least think they can.</p>
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		By: Orion314		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orion314]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 04:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone care to bet the kid was white? Caucasians , the only group left that it is perfectly fine to show hatred toward, as amply and repeatedly demonstrated by the current resident of the &quot;WHITE HOUSE&#039;&#039; , the top boss of the TSA.
&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone care to bet the kid was white? Caucasians , the only group left that it is perfectly fine to show hatred toward, as amply and repeatedly demonstrated by the current resident of the &#8220;WHITE HOUSE&#8221; , the top boss of the TSA.<br />
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 03:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately these TSA people have a measure of immunity, the extent of which I&#039;m not entirely clear. 
That being said, just on it&#039;s face: these TSA people should be guilty of something. 
They are under-trained &#038; given authority-- that is a bad combination.

As Mr Z notes---&quot;anyone with any brains would have likely realized instantly that the girl was not a threat to anyone.&quot;

Spent a good portion of my life working with folks like Hannah, and while I don&#039;t know-for-a-fact what exactly happened, I will make an educated guess;
- TSA needlessly freaked this girl out, went all Authoritarian on her, then physically intervened causing injury. Hope this family sues TSA to death &#038; makes it stick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately these TSA people have a measure of immunity, the extent of which I&#8217;m not entirely clear.<br />
That being said, just on it&#8217;s face: these TSA people should be guilty of something.<br />
They are under-trained &amp; given authority&#8211; that is a bad combination.</p>
<p>As Mr Z notes&#8212;&#8220;anyone with any brains would have likely realized instantly that the girl was not a threat to anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Spent a good portion of my life working with folks like Hannah, and while I don&#8217;t know-for-a-fact what exactly happened, I will make an educated guess;<br />
&#8211; TSA needlessly freaked this girl out, went all Authoritarian on her, then physically intervened causing injury. Hope this family sues TSA to death &amp; makes it stick.</p>
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		By: Edward Hanley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Hanley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2016 03:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a high volume travel weekend, so the TSA people are under a lot of stress. They need to blow off steam from time to time and we should all understand their feelings and allow them the personal space to express themselves in a genuine manner. Such caring for each other is what makes America great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a high volume travel weekend, so the TSA people are under a lot of stress. They need to blow off steam from time to time and we should all understand their feelings and allow them the personal space to express themselves in a genuine manner. Such caring for each other is what makes America great.</p>
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