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		By: Patrick Underwood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Underwood]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Handmer is great, and seems to have been somewhat red-pilled lately. He just doesn’t post often enough! 

An interesting channel on YT is AnthroFuturism. Very numbers-based, focused on Lunar development.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Handmer is great, and seems to have been somewhat red-pilled lately. He just doesn’t post often enough! </p>
<p>An interesting channel on YT is AnthroFuturism. Very numbers-based, focused on Lunar development.</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2025 11:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, I can’t think of a space- or science-focused news site, other than this one, that isn’t explicitly far left. NSF tries to keep things tamped down but I’d say they’re about 90/10 left, both site admin and posters.&lt;blockquote&gt;

I mean, it could be worse. They&#039;re not Quartz or The Verge.

I think what I appreciate about the guys at Ars Technica and NASA Space Flight is that whatever their personal politics, they really do genuinely appreciate what SpaceX and the other up and coming New Space startups are doing, and appreciate that this model really is the way forward in space. The enthusiasm is real, and it permeates what they cover and how they cover it, no matter how much Elon might irritate them. And for me, that is enough, at least for being able to follow what&#039;s going on. 

But if you want an openly libertarian or conservative perspective on space developments....yes, I am afraid that this is still only in the realm of blogs and substacks or the odd think tank. There is Bob, Rand, and Homer, of course, but I would also recommend Peter Hague and Casey Handmer as up-and-comers worth following, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You know, I can’t think of a space- or science-focused news site, other than this one, that isn’t explicitly far left. NSF tries to keep things tamped down but I’d say they’re about 90/10 left, both site admin and posters.</p>
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<p>I mean, it could be worse. They&#8217;re not Quartz or The Verge.</p>
<p>I think what I appreciate about the guys at Ars Technica and NASA Space Flight is that whatever their personal politics, they really do genuinely appreciate what SpaceX and the other up and coming New Space startups are doing, and appreciate that this model really is the way forward in space. The enthusiasm is real, and it permeates what they cover and how they cover it, no matter how much Elon might irritate them. And for me, that is enough, at least for being able to follow what&#8217;s going on. </p>
<p>But if you want an openly libertarian or conservative perspective on space developments&#8230;.yes, I am afraid that this is still only in the realm of blogs and substacks or the odd think tank. There is Bob, Rand, and Homer, of course, but I would also recommend Peter Hague and Casey Handmer as up-and-comers worth following, too.</p></blockquote>
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		By: pawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 23:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Icepilot,

You would be wrong.

There&#039;s no real difference between the Post Office and NASA or any other government agency out there.

It&#039;;s shocking, I know. because of all the PR they put out a regular NASA employee is only into the Space program because it&#039;s their rice bowl. The enthusiasm is pounded out of them in the first couple of years when they realize they are all part of a machine to spend tax dollars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icepilot,</p>
<p>You would be wrong.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no real difference between the Post Office and NASA or any other government agency out there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;;s shocking, I know. because of all the PR they put out a regular NASA employee is only into the Space program because it&#8217;s their rice bowl. The enthusiasm is pounded out of them in the first couple of years when they realize they are all part of a machine to spend tax dollars.</p>
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		By: Patrick Underwood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Underwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 23:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[During a live NSF YT interview with Eric Berger, I reacted in chat, politely, to a Berger criticism of Musk buying twitter. (The usual lefty refusal to consider the free-speech aspects of the buyout.) I was immediately told by the NSF hosts to sit down and shut up.

Just yesterday I posted on NSF that I thought Musk’s tweet about the Starliner astronauts was “bonkers” (anticipating by a few hours Berger’s own words) but added that I generally support Musk and Trump. Then received a quite vicious response from one of the commies. To their credit, the moderators deleted that post but locked up the thread for all but paying subscribers. So the hate continues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During a live NSF YT interview with Eric Berger, I reacted in chat, politely, to a Berger criticism of Musk buying twitter. (The usual lefty refusal to consider the free-speech aspects of the buyout.) I was immediately told by the NSF hosts to sit down and shut up.</p>
<p>Just yesterday I posted on NSF that I thought Musk’s tweet about the Starliner astronauts was “bonkers” (anticipating by a few hours Berger’s own words) but added that I generally support Musk and Trump. Then received a quite vicious response from one of the commies. To their credit, the moderators deleted that post but locked up the thread for all but paying subscribers. So the hate continues.</p>
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		By: Mike Borgelt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Borgelt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;they’re about 90/10 left, both site admin and posters&quot;

Correct and some of the commenters appear to be lunatics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they’re about 90/10 left, both site admin and posters&#8221;</p>
<p>Correct and some of the commenters appear to be lunatics.</p>
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		By: Patrick Underwood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Underwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 22:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know Richard M is aware of this… SpaceNews just absolutely beclowned itself.

You know, I can’t think of a space- or science-focused news site, other than this one, that isn’t explicitly far left. NSF tries to keep things tamped down but I’d say they’re about 90/10 left, both site admin and posters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Richard M is aware of this… SpaceNews just absolutely beclowned itself.</p>
<p>You know, I can’t think of a space- or science-focused news site, other than this one, that isn’t explicitly far left. NSF tries to keep things tamped down but I’d say they’re about 90/10 left, both site admin and posters.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 22:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Richard M

 NSF tries very hard to be non-partisan so to be a resource to all readers. Unlike Cowing]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Richard M</p>
<p> NSF tries very hard to be non-partisan so to be a resource to all readers. Unlike Cowing</p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Icepilot wrote: &quot;&lt;em&gt;I’m confident that most of the folks at NASA didn’t sign up just for the 9 to 5.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; 

The engineers and technicians that I have worked with in the space business have been enthusiastic about exploration and advancements in space.  They work long hours to make sure that probes, satellites, and launch vehicles are ready on time.  I have watched several rearrange their home schedules in order to make sure that they were available to perform that one task that they were especially trained to do when the time came, and that time was coming late in the evening, after -- say -- the daycare closes and they have to make arrangements for someone else to pick up their kid.  Launch teams may have been understaffed, as they had mostly paperwork and slower work to do between launches, so launch campaigns were long hours of hard work, resolving the unexpected bugs that seem to always crawl into the smooth-flowing processes and procedures.  SpaceX&#039;s launch crews probably don&#039;t have as much &quot;downtime&quot; as at other companies, and they are probably more properly staffed, too.  

Yeah.  They have signed up for the whole program and its goal, not just the mere job.  We do it because we think that space can make the world a better place, and we are disappointed that it is taking so long to make that happen.  This is why we are so excited about this decade.  We think that an enthusiastic commercial-space is finally able to do what space had promised us three-quarters of a century ago -- what Congress is unwilling to let government-space to do for us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icepilot wrote: &#8220;<em>I’m confident that most of the folks at NASA didn’t sign up just for the 9 to 5.</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>The engineers and technicians that I have worked with in the space business have been enthusiastic about exploration and advancements in space.  They work long hours to make sure that probes, satellites, and launch vehicles are ready on time.  I have watched several rearrange their home schedules in order to make sure that they were available to perform that one task that they were especially trained to do when the time came, and that time was coming late in the evening, after &#8212; say &#8212; the daycare closes and they have to make arrangements for someone else to pick up their kid.  Launch teams may have been understaffed, as they had mostly paperwork and slower work to do between launches, so launch campaigns were long hours of hard work, resolving the unexpected bugs that seem to always crawl into the smooth-flowing processes and procedures.  SpaceX&#8217;s launch crews probably don&#8217;t have as much &#8220;downtime&#8221; as at other companies, and they are probably more properly staffed, too.  </p>
<p>Yeah.  They have signed up for the whole program and its goal, not just the mere job.  We do it because we think that space can make the world a better place, and we are disappointed that it is taking so long to make that happen.  This is why we are so excited about this decade.  We think that an enthusiastic commercial-space is finally able to do what space had promised us three-quarters of a century ago &#8212; what Congress is unwilling to let government-space to do for us.</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth, the founder of NSF is from the UK, as are several other commentators, and several of the leading personalities are from Germany and Spain, if I recall correctly.

I assume this helps them avoid US political issues and focus on technical ones, and provide an entertaining and unabashedly techie coverage of (mostly) U.S. space efforts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, the founder of NSF is from the UK, as are several other commentators, and several of the leading personalities are from Germany and Spain, if I recall correctly.</p>
<p>I assume this helps them avoid US political issues and focus on technical ones, and provide an entertaining and unabashedly techie coverage of (mostly) U.S. space efforts.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/update-on-upcoming-starship-superheavy-test-flights/#comment-1547936&quot;&gt;Richard M&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard M concluded, &quot;But for policy context, you must go elsewhere.&quot;

And I wonder where that &quot;elsewhere&quot; might be. :)

Seriously, thank you for the kind words in general.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/update-on-upcoming-starship-superheavy-test-flights/#comment-1547936">Richard M</a>.</p>
<p>Richard M concluded, &#8220;But for policy context, you must go elsewhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I wonder where that &#8220;elsewhere&#8221; might be. :)</p>
<p>Seriously, thank you for the kind words in general.</p>
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		By: Icepilot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confident that most of the folks at NASA didn&#039;t sign up just for the 9 to 5.
I&#039;d also wager that a majority, even in management, view Musk &#038; SpaceX rather favorably.
IOW, Ad Astra!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confident that most of the folks at NASA didn&#8217;t sign up just for the 9 to 5.<br />
I&#8217;d also wager that a majority, even in management, view Musk &amp; SpaceX rather favorably.<br />
IOW, Ad Astra!</p>
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		By: Richard M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And as usual, NASASpaceflight.com ignores the importance of politics and Trump’s election in changing the regulatory culture at the FAA.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hi Bob,

This is true, but I think you&#039;ve hit on the right way to appreciate NSF&#039;s work: They do a solid job (honestly, better than anyone else) at covering the nuts and bolts of the progress of these programs, thoroughly and systematically; and if you just keep that in mind, it&#039;s a great resource to always rely on. (And they deserve credit, too, for maintaining the forums, which remain one of the very best places for public discussion of space programs, even if the hand of the mods is heavy at times.)

But for policy context, you must go elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And as usual, NASASpaceflight.com ignores the importance of politics and Trump’s election in changing the regulatory culture at the FAA.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>This is true, but I think you&#8217;ve hit on the right way to appreciate NSF&#8217;s work: They do a solid job (honestly, better than anyone else) at covering the nuts and bolts of the progress of these programs, thoroughly and systematically; and if you just keep that in mind, it&#8217;s a great resource to always rely on. (And they deserve credit, too, for maintaining the forums, which remain one of the very best places for public discussion of space programs, even if the hand of the mods is heavy at times.)</p>
<p>But for policy context, you must go elsewhere.</p>
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		By: Milt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 17:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, it&#039;s now official.  Elon Musk CAUSED the aircraft collision in Washington last night.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/faa-chief-michael-whitaker-quit-on-jan-20-after-elon-musk-told-him-to-resign/

Without Michael Whitaker at the helm, the FAA was incapable of doing its accustomed job, and the tragedy was all but inevitable.  QED, bad things happen when you elect Republicans.   Remember, these people *never give up,* and they aren&#039;t going away quietly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, it&#8217;s now official.  Elon Musk CAUSED the aircraft collision in Washington last night.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/faa-chief-michael-whitaker-quit-on-jan-20-after-elon-musk-told-him-to-resign/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thedailybeast.com/faa-chief-michael-whitaker-quit-on-jan-20-after-elon-musk-told-him-to-resign/</a></p>
<p>Without Michael Whitaker at the helm, the FAA was incapable of doing its accustomed job, and the tragedy was all but inevitable.  QED, bad things happen when you elect Republicans.   Remember, these people *never give up,* and they aren&#8217;t going away quietly.</p>
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