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		By: Cotour		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/using-computer-models-and-data-collected-in-the-past-decade-some-climate-scientists-now-believe-that-a-major-antarctica-ice-sheet-is-in-the-process-of-collapsing/#comment-167861&quot;&gt;Cotour&lt;/a&gt;.

And now I have to ad this new term, &quot;Climate Chaos&quot; and notify you that apparently the people of earth only officially have 500 days left as per the French and John Kerry.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/french-foreign-minister-500-days-avoid-climate-chaos_792736.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/using-computer-models-and-data-collected-in-the-past-decade-some-climate-scientists-now-believe-that-a-major-antarctica-ice-sheet-is-in-the-process-of-collapsing/#comment-167861">Cotour</a>.</p>
<p>And now I have to ad this new term, &#8220;Climate Chaos&#8221; and notify you that apparently the people of earth only officially have 500 days left as per the French and John Kerry.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/french-foreign-minister-500-days-avoid-climate-chaos_792736.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/french-foreign-minister-500-days-avoid-climate-chaos_792736.html</a></p>
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		By: Edward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 00:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why does it look like just another scare tactic, with the advantage of being able to say, &quot;see, we already passed the tipping point that all those people warned us about&quot;?  

On the other hand, now that it *is* too late to take action, we should stop plan A (cap and trade, Kyoto, etc.) and move on to plan B, adapt to the damage as it arises.  

Christopher Monckton of Brenchley has used the costs and effectiveness of current CO2 emission mitigation attempts (stopping global warming/climate change/whatever) to show that the cost of adapting to the worst-case damage that might occur is far less than preventing that damage in the first place.  

According to Monckton, stopping the effects of global warming (which apparently is now too late) is 36 times more expensive than fixing that damage as it happens, so plan B is less expensive than plan A was.  
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/is_c02_mitigation_cost_effective.html

The following is a 19-minute video of one of his presentations on this topic. &quot;Focused adaptation is the way to go&quot;:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdjtDQlWZQ 

For those who are gluttons for punishment, this is a 1 hour presentation (followed by 1/2 hour of Tom Tanton, a renewable energy expert) to the California Legislature in March of 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heamMWFQ_qY]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does it look like just another scare tactic, with the advantage of being able to say, &#8220;see, we already passed the tipping point that all those people warned us about&#8221;?  </p>
<p>On the other hand, now that it *is* too late to take action, we should stop plan A (cap and trade, Kyoto, etc.) and move on to plan B, adapt to the damage as it arises.  </p>
<p>Christopher Monckton of Brenchley has used the costs and effectiveness of current CO2 emission mitigation attempts (stopping global warming/climate change/whatever) to show that the cost of adapting to the worst-case damage that might occur is far less than preventing that damage in the first place.  </p>
<p>According to Monckton, stopping the effects of global warming (which apparently is now too late) is 36 times more expensive than fixing that damage as it happens, so plan B is less expensive than plan A was.<br />
<a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/is_c02_mitigation_cost_effective.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/is_c02_mitigation_cost_effective.html</a></p>
<p>The following is a 19-minute video of one of his presentations on this topic. &#8220;Focused adaptation is the way to go&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdjtDQlWZQ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdjtDQlWZQ</a> </p>
<p>For those who are gluttons for punishment, this is a 1 hour presentation (followed by 1/2 hour of Tom Tanton, a renewable energy expert) to the California Legislature in March of 2012:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heamMWFQ_qY" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heamMWFQ_qY</a></p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/using-computer-models-and-data-collected-in-the-past-decade-some-climate-scientists-now-believe-that-a-major-antarctica-ice-sheet-is-in-the-process-of-collapsing/#comment-167873</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 20:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Volcanic activity the likely culprit.

http://www.livescience.com/41262-west-antarctica-new-volcano-discovered.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volcanic activity the likely culprit.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.livescience.com/41262-west-antarctica-new-volcano-discovered.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.livescience.com/41262-west-antarctica-new-volcano-discovered.html</a></p>
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		By: Cotour		</title>
		<link>https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/using-computer-models-and-data-collected-in-the-past-decade-some-climate-scientists-now-believe-that-a-major-antarctica-ice-sheet-is-in-the-process-of-collapsing/#comment-167861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cotour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do these people believe that the earth was formed with ice caps in place and that that is the natural and &quot;normal&quot; way that the earth should be and that the existence of humans and their activities threatens this &quot;normal&quot; model? Because that is what it seems that they are saying.

From human caused global warming to global warming to climate change and now the fourth Permutation? Climate disruption.

They will get it right eventually.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these people believe that the earth was formed with ice caps in place and that that is the natural and &#8220;normal&#8221; way that the earth should be and that the existence of humans and their activities threatens this &#8220;normal&#8221; model? Because that is what it seems that they are saying.</p>
<p>From human caused global warming to global warming to climate change and now the fourth Permutation? Climate disruption.</p>
<p>They will get it right eventually.</p>
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