Comments on: VA rewriting the words of Abraham Lincoln because of feminist whines https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/ Tue, 06 Feb 2018 08:58:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Andrew_W https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040391 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 08:58:34 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040391 wodun, the push to change the motto is coming from female veterans, perhaps you shouldn’t go around telling women what they’re supposed to think?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5348333/Veterans-group-asks-VA-remove-Lincoln-quote-motto.html

]]> By: wodun https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040388 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 08:36:52 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040388 It is a little insulting that people think women can’t appreciate the spirit of Lincoln’s quote for what it is. Who could possibly hold women in such low regard?

Oh yeah, Democrat’s SJW brigade for communist change.

Nothing will make these SJW happy. More demands will be made to change the motto or something else.

]]> By: Andrew_W https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040370 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 04:02:26 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040370 Alex, perhaps you’re commenting on the wrong thread, this ones about the VA changing its motto, it’s not about the merits or otherwise of women in the US armed forces being in harms way, I think that discussion was had about 10 years ago.

]]> By: Alex Andrite https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040366 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 03:21:46 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040366 Cotour – “Do you, Wayne, or the Zman suggest that brave young women who have had their bodies destroyed due to their honorable service be omitted and disrespected in such a way?”

Why are they even in Harms Way ? Is it not enough for us, men, our Nations Sons, to be destroyed and mutilated on the field of battle ? Why our Women? Who are we to come home to for healing? Destroyed Women? The V.A. ?
I did not come home to attempt to figure out Function and Worth.
I came home to be healed.

U.S.N. ”68 – ’72

]]> By: pzatchok https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040146 Sun, 04 Feb 2018 17:35:01 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040146 If they actually changed the quote to something entirely different I would not be upset or put out, but instead they just changed part of the quote.
They edited something for a simple PC reason.

Would you be more or less upset if they started to edit the great works of literary history just because a few passages upset a few people?

How about when they edit slave history to reflect that it was started by white people because they were white and not simply ignorant?

]]> By: Edward https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040052 Sun, 04 Feb 2018 01:45:00 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040052 If the VA is treating women differently than they treat men, it is not because of a motto or a quote.

If they want change, then they have to find the root problem and solve that. Changing something that “is symbolic of overall challenges,” and not solving the problem, only means that they will seek yet another symbol of the overall challenges.

Unless the problem is that they need someone to listen to the complaint and not someone to find a solution. It may not be about the nail.
http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/jason-headley-its-not-about-the-nail/

]]> By: Cotour https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040030 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 23:18:38 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040030 Explain your position to her (After you clear the tears from your eyes that is):

https://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/26/iraq-veteran-absolutely-hammers-irs-contractor-for-taking-advantage-of-vet-benefits-program-shame-on-you

Like I have stated, this is a non issue issue, the Lincoln quote was purloined by the VA for their purposes, and their purposes have changed. This is not a Confederate statue type issue. Do you, Wayne, or the Zman suggest that brave young women who have had their bodies destroyed due to their honorable service be omitted and disrespected in such a way?

I for one do not.

]]> By: Andrew_W https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040023 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:40:51 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040023 What has VA deciding to change their motto got to do with free speech? Aren’t they free to change it? it’s their motto. Should other organizations be condemned for changing their motto’s should they choose to do so?

]]> By: wayne https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040022 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:32:07 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040022 Andrew_W:
yeah, I get that. It’s the concept I was trying to convey.

I’m not particularly fond of the VA as it is. I don’t want the Federal Government running hospital’s for anyone.

Politics and the English Language,
George Orwell
https://youtu.be/fBu0yPaGpsU
35:44

]]> By: Andrew_W https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040019 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:24:55 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040019 Wayne, Peterson is talking about how that recent Canadian law imposed on the rights of free speech, nothing to do with VA changing their motto.

]]> By: Cotour https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040016 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:15:16 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040016 You, and others, are conflating this issue, the logic is faulty.

Even Lincoln would disagree with you, and them.

]]> By: wayne https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040011 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 21:55:15 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040011 Cotour-
No, you can’t let these people destroy the language to that extent.

Prof Jordan Peterson
“I’m NOT Doing This & That’s That”
https://youtu.be/WQ-M5MgqVOo
1:23

]]> By: Cotour https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040001 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 20:31:29 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040001 I do not see a problem with this adjustment in verbage to better reflect the makeup of today’s modern military. Women as well as men have an equal opportunity to be blown up or killed in today’s military. Lincoln did not write the piece for the VA specifically, the VA high jacked it for their own purposes, and now the VA’s purposes have changed and so should their motto.

This is not an example of over righteous feminists being petulant, this may be just an example of a narrow form of inflexible Conservatism making something out of nothing. How might Mr. Lincoln see this situation? I suspect he would support the change. Why? Because its equitable.

]]> By: Andrew_W https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1040000 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 20:07:18 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1040000 “I wonder if they will continue to say it’s a quote from Lincoln.”

They won’t. They’ve just dropped the Lincoln quote and replaced it with something they see as more appropriate for the times, so I don’t think Robert’s title is fair.

]]> By: ted https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/va-rewriting-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln-because-of-feminist-whines/#comment-1039993 Sat, 03 Feb 2018 19:34:16 +0000 http://behindtheblack.com/?p=50089#comment-1039993 I wonder if they will continue to say it’s a quote from Lincoln.

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