Lee S: I disagree about the comet. The data from the comment is “alien” only in that is it a comet with some features different from all other comets, but this uniqueness is actually not unique at all. Every comet we have looked at with the same equipment has been equally unique. Think of the differences between humans. Each human is unique, but all are clearly human. It is so far the same with 3I/Atlas.

I also disagree about Loeb. He has made a career doing this, attracting big funding for questionable research. He is doing the same now, making absurd claims (based either on NO facts or in direct contradiction to the facts we have) in order to gin up funding for research.

Asking radical questions is great, but when you do it divorced from facts you are not a scientist, you are a charlatan.

Loeb has some crazy ideas, but I genuinely don’t think he’s fishing for clicks… He is just floating out there that we shouldn’t discount that there could be some kind of ET tech floating thru our system… It is easy to dismiss his ideas, but why not at least consider the possibility?

https://youtube.com/shorts/TqWbMZIQAoo?si=Ygx5_wtVZv-LQZJI

You would think.

And yet there are some things still today that have no rational everyday explanation.

They choose to just tool around the universe between star systems and planets in 10,000 year increments?

I suspect not.

There are credible UFO / UAP recorded events and related stories throughout history that IMO would indicate that there is something that is traveling by some other means or exists within the envelope of the earth or our solar system that we are not aware of, cannot properly detect and identify or are unable to replicate at this moment in time.

Q: What evidence related to UFO’s / UAP’s is information and what is disinformation?

Information? https://youtu.be/q8pymWSKAPQ?si=hMCZRmJxYKkR0w0O

Disinformation? https://youtu.be/b8CzUPhqNxE?si=Zi6XDvRZtTEBYTO0

I tend to be of the mind that agrees more with the likes of Jaques Vallee on this subject: https://youtube.com/shorts/vPiu6-wGzdk?si=BOLJ0YaafME9lHq5

I know this is an anomalous third rail over the edge subject on BTB, but here it is all the same.

Information? Disinformation?

Where I respect him is that he is also not afraid to throw some unlikely ideas out there… Almost definitely the 3 interestella visitors we have welcomed in the past decade or so are remnants of other star systems… Massively interesting in their own right, but if……

Blue sky research is important, as are scientists willing to think outside the box… However unlikely, I am happy that big brains are contemplating we might be looking at ET.

So how do you sensationalize it for clicks? Like putting lipstick on a pig. Find another object 100 times larger and glows like a chunk of radioactive stellar isotope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyFHlHv7FNU

This thing might be so old to where chemical reactions might be kicked off–unlike younger comets.

If there is anything to allegations of it being “too bright,” it might just come down to something like foxfire.

I am thinking Borisov is what most interstellar objects will be like –and that we might just be really lucky that the first and third of these happen to be more interesting.

I think Oumuamua is a shard of rock (volcanic plug?) or something.

3/ATLAS may have passed through chemicals from another wrecked system…the older something is, the more things it can pick up just by passing through…think whale barnacles.

Ha! You are so right. Loeb is so over the top trying to get clicks and more angel investors. It is rather sad to see him so strenuously pick at the data to find aliens.

I am reminded of the Reagan:
“Worried that their boys had developed extreme personalities — one was a total pessimist, the other a total optimist — their parents took them to a psychiatrist.

First the psychiatrist treated the pessimist. Trying to brighten his outlook, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with brand-new toys. But instead of yelping with delight, the little boy burst into tears. “What’s the matter?” the psychiatrist asked, baffled. “Don’t you want to play with any of the toys?” “Yes,” the little boy bawled, “but if I did I’d only break them.”

Next the psychiatrist treated the optimist. Trying to dampen his out look, the psychiatrist took him to a room piled to the ceiling with horse manure. But instead of wrinkling his nose in disgust, the optimist emitted just the yelp of delight the psychiatrist had been hoping to hear from his brother, the pessimist. Then he clambered to the top of the pile, dropped to his knees, and began gleefully digging out scoop after scoop with his bare hands. “What do you think you’re doing?” the psychiatrist asked, just as baffled by the optimist as he had been by the pessimist. “With all this manure,” the little boy replied, beaming, “there must be a pony in here somewhere!” “