Comments on: Forgotten Weapons – Girardoni Air Gun https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/ Sat, 17 Jun 2023 17:59:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Jeff Wright https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1416116 Sat, 17 Jun 2023 17:59:38 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1416116 Moriarty’s right hand man used one
https://coastalsherlockians.wordpress.com/2018/11/10/the-air-rifle/

]]> By: Robert Zimmerman https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415902 Thu, 15 Jun 2023 04:21:08 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415902 In reply to Alex Andrite.

Alex Andrite: I found Ambrose’s book very disappointing, which is why I found an excellent abridged transcription of Lewis & Clark’s actual diaries to get a real sense of what happened. Ambrose too often stuck his own opinions in when they were clearly not needed, nor even very accurate or fair.

]]> By: Alex Andrite https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415896 Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:46:24 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415896 Read “Undaunted Courage” – Stephen E. Ambrose.
I found it a remarkable read and insight to the relationship between Meriwether Lewis, Thomas Jefferson, and the “opening of the American West.”
Not taught in my elementary education, that is for certain.
The opening of the American West. Amazing.

Poor Lewis.

]]> By: pzatchok https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415814 Wed, 14 Jun 2023 01:26:27 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415814 Look up Quackenbush air rifles.

http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/

If anyone is willing I am accepting gifts.

]]> By: Andi https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415794 Tue, 13 Jun 2023 20:52:41 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415794 Lethal at 125 yards – wow!

]]> By: Col Beausabre https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415770 Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:52:50 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415770 More from Gun Jesus – Soryy, but as an old soldier, I can’t resist

Pritchard’s 19th Century Precharged Air Gun https://youtu.be/sCoUWJHhDZ0

Durs Egg Ferguson – The Rifle That Didn’t Shoot George Washington https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlD5SFR_qq0 The inventor, Major Patrick Ferguson, had the chance to shoot Washington but declined the shot. Ferguson was killed in action commanding British / Loyalist force at King’s Mountain

]]> By: Mac https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415765 Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:30:27 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415765 Wayne, modern large-caliber air rifles (typically 50-cal) need stored air pressure in the 3000-4500 PSI range, however modern spring-only rifles are generally more powerful and more accurate.

Judd, you’re thinking of chamber pressure, SAAMI specs for many rifles are in the 50-60K range. Some rounds like the 7.62x54R have been measured as high as 80K. Non +P handguns are typically around 25K.

22 rounds in the late 1700s eh? Sure does blow the “modern” large capacity magazine argument out of the water!

Great presentation, sad that was for the benefit of ATF thugs.

]]> By: wayne https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415764 Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:28:41 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415764 judd–
(I as well had no idea air rifles went back so far.)
-cursory look-see yields around 400+psi for a modern CO2 cartridge and your 50K number appears completely reasonable for gunpowder, depending on load and whatnot.
(This is not my thing’, any Engineers who want to comment?)

]]> By: judd https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415720 Tue, 13 Jun 2023 01:57:27 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415720 i believe that modern gunpowder rifles are in the range of 50,000 psi. i may be mistaken, but it is easily looked up.

The air reservoirs were hand hammered, riveted, and soldered. 800 psi seems scary for that kind of construction.

]]> By: wayne https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/forgotten-weapons-girardoni-air-gun/#comment-1415715 Tue, 13 Jun 2023 01:14:28 +0000 https://behindtheblack.com/?p=95436#comment-1415715 Judd-
Excellent selection!
Amazing engineering.

Q: He mentioned the air-pressure was like’, 800+ lbs.square-inch. How does that compare to a modern air-rifle and/or chemical firearms?

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