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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 11:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim/Steve-
Good stuff.

Mr. Z.,
as well, check the annotated PDI to Touchdown video.

https://youtu.be/RONIax0_1ec?t=755

&quot;When their Quantity light comes on, MCC reckon they will have 5.6% or 114 seconds of fuel remaining.&quot;
&quot;MCC begin a 94 second count that leads to a &#039;bingo&#039; call; either land or abort now.&quot;

--the module then lands approximately 20 seconds before the bingo call.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim/Steve-<br />
Good stuff.</p>
<p>Mr. Z.,<br />
as well, check the annotated PDI to Touchdown video.</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/RONIax0_1ec?t=755" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/RONIax0_1ec?t=755</a></p>
<p>&#8220;When their Quantity light comes on, MCC reckon they will have 5.6% or 114 seconds of fuel remaining.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;MCC begin a 94 second count that leads to a &#8216;bingo&#8217; call; either land or abort now.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;the module then lands approximately 20 seconds before the bingo call.</p>
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		By: Steve Golson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Golson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 03:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding the &quot;bingo&quot; fuel call: see https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.landing.html

When that timer gets to zero, there is still some fuel remaining: &quot;…Neil will have 20 seconds to land, if he thinks he can get down in time. Otherwise, he will have to abort immediately.&quot; As Jim Davis indicated, it requires some descent engine fuel to perform the abort.

On that page there&#039;s a wonderful quote from Armstrong about what he was thinking during the landing, and his estimate for how high up they could be when fuel runs out, and still land successfully:

&quot;I did know that if I could have my speed stabilized and attitude stabilized, I could fall from a fairly good height, perhaps maybe forty feet or more in the low lunar gravity, (and) the gear would absorb that much fall. So I was perhaps probably less concerned about it than a lot of people watching down here on Earth… I would certainly prefer that drop to trying to go through the abort sequence at that altitude.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8220;bingo&#8221; fuel call: see <a href="https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.landing.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.landing.html</a></p>
<p>When that timer gets to zero, there is still some fuel remaining: &#8220;…Neil will have 20 seconds to land, if he thinks he can get down in time. Otherwise, he will have to abort immediately.&#8221; As Jim Davis indicated, it requires some descent engine fuel to perform the abort.</p>
<p>On that page there&#8217;s a wonderful quote from Armstrong about what he was thinking during the landing, and his estimate for how high up they could be when fuel runs out, and still land successfully:</p>
<p>&#8220;I did know that if I could have my speed stabilized and attitude stabilized, I could fall from a fairly good height, perhaps maybe forty feet or more in the low lunar gravity, (and) the gear would absorb that much fall. So I was perhaps probably less concerned about it than a lot of people watching down here on Earth… I would certainly prefer that drop to trying to go through the abort sequence at that altitude.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 02:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/july-20-1969-the-eagle-has-landed/#comment-1069101&quot;&gt;Jim Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

Jim Davis: When I get home tomorrow I will take a look, as I have it in my home library..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/july-20-1969-the-eagle-has-landed/#comment-1069101">Jim Davis</a>.</p>
<p>Jim Davis: When I get home tomorrow I will take a look, as I have it in my home library..</p>
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		By: Jim Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 02:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If memory serves I read this in &lt;i&gt;Chariots for Apollo: The Making of the Lunar Module&lt;/i&gt; by Charles R. Pellegrino and  Joshua Stoff (not to be confused with the official NASA history also entitled Chariots for Apollo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If memory serves I read this in <i>Chariots for Apollo: The Making of the Lunar Module</i> by Charles R. Pellegrino and  Joshua Stoff (not to be confused with the official NASA history also entitled Chariots for Apollo.</p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 01:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/july-20-1969-the-eagle-has-landed/#comment-1069090&quot;&gt;Jim Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

Jim Davis: Can you provide me a source? I suspect you are right and I am wrong, but I want a confirmation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/the-evening-pause/july-20-1969-the-eagle-has-landed/#comment-1069090">Jim Davis</a>.</p>
<p>Jim Davis: Can you provide me a source? I suspect you are right and I am wrong, but I want a confirmation.</p>
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		By: Jim Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2019 16:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Just before Armstrong brings Eagle down, you will hear a voice say “60 seconds,” then “30 seconds.” That is mission control telling him how much time they estimate he has before he runs out of fuel.&lt;/i&gt;

This is a common misconception. The times actually refer to how much time Armstrong has before he can no longer abort the landing; he will then be absolutely committed to landing the LM. An abort at this stage of the landing sequence required a full thrust descent engine firing which would gain enough altitude for the ascent engine to be readied for firing before crashing on the moon.

So when the Eagle landed it was actually about 15 seconds from entering the so called &quot;dead man zone&quot; when it must land or crash. It was not 15 seconds from running out of fuel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just before Armstrong brings Eagle down, you will hear a voice say “60 seconds,” then “30 seconds.” That is mission control telling him how much time they estimate he has before he runs out of fuel.</i></p>
<p>This is a common misconception. The times actually refer to how much time Armstrong has before he can no longer abort the landing; he will then be absolutely committed to landing the LM. An abort at this stage of the landing sequence required a full thrust descent engine firing which would gain enough altitude for the ascent engine to be readied for firing before crashing on the moon.</p>
<p>So when the Eagle landed it was actually about 15 seconds from entering the so called &#8220;dead man zone&#8221; when it must land or crash. It was not 15 seconds from running out of fuel.</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2019 13:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BBC James Burke
 Apollo 11 retrospective on the moon landing
1979
https://youtu.be/8XuJj1zXkDw
7:45
--includes flight-director&#039;s audio loop during landing]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBC James Burke<br />
 Apollo 11 retrospective on the moon landing<br />
1979<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/8XuJj1zXkDw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/8XuJj1zXkDw</a><br />
7:45<br />
&#8211;includes flight-director&#8217;s audio loop during landing</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2019 13:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[--extremely well done:

Annotated Apollo 11 landing- PDI to Touchdown
Apollo Flight Journal  2014
https://youtu.be/RONIax0_1ec
14:57]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;extremely well done:</p>
<p>Annotated Apollo 11 landing- PDI to Touchdown<br />
Apollo Flight Journal  2014<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/RONIax0_1ec" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/RONIax0_1ec</a><br />
14:57</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2019 11:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;As Time Goes By&quot;

&quot;This day and age we&#039;re living in, gives cause for apprehension. 
With speed and new invention,  and things like fourth dimension. 
Yet we get a trifle weary, with Mr. Einstein&#039;s theory. 
So we must get down to earth at times , relax relieve the tension.
And no matter what the progress , or what may yet be proved. 
The simple facts of life are such, they cannot be removed.&quot;

(It&#039;s still the same old story, a fight for love and glory, a case of do or die....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As Time Goes By&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This day and age we&#8217;re living in, gives cause for apprehension.<br />
With speed and new invention,  and things like fourth dimension.<br />
Yet we get a trifle weary, with Mr. Einstein&#8217;s theory.<br />
So we must get down to earth at times , relax relieve the tension.<br />
And no matter what the progress , or what may yet be proved.<br />
The simple facts of life are such, they cannot be removed.&#8221;</p>
<p>(It&#8217;s still the same old story, a fight for love and glory, a case of do or die&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2019 11:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blair--
Nicely written Post at your Blog!

A repeat from me--

Behind the Apollo 11 on-board computer
 NASA programmer Don Eyles
 July 15, 2019
https://youtu.be/z4cn93H6sM0
 7:17]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blair&#8211;<br />
Nicely written Post at your Blog!</p>
<p>A repeat from me&#8211;</p>
<p>Behind the Apollo 11 on-board computer<br />
 NASA programmer Don Eyles<br />
 July 15, 2019<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/z4cn93H6sM0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/z4cn93H6sM0</a><br />
 7:17</p>
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		By: wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2019 11:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like this version....


Apollo 11 Descent: 
Film and LRO Imagery side-by-side
NASA 2013
https://youtu.be/YKXw_3Pblh8
4:51]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this version&#8230;.</p>
<p>Apollo 11 Descent:<br />
Film and LRO Imagery side-by-side<br />
NASA 2013<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/YKXw_3Pblh8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/YKXw_3Pblh8</a><br />
4:51</p>
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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jul 2019 04:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; . . . he was too busy flying the LM to discuss the situation with mission control.&quot;

Aviate, navigate, communicate.

Neil Armstrong was The Man. 

(Could someone hack the Google Doodle and fix the astronaut&#039;s left shoulder?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; . . . he was too busy flying the LM to discuss the situation with mission control.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aviate, navigate, communicate.</p>
<p>Neil Armstrong was The Man. </p>
<p>(Could someone hack the Google Doodle and fix the astronaut&#8217;s left shoulder?)</p>
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