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		By: Blair Ivey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Ivey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2025 08:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;So it seems an appropriate name for a vehicle that would be flirting with the definition of super heavy lift.”

Defining standards down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So it seems an appropriate name for a vehicle that would be flirting with the definition of super heavy lift.”</p>
<p>Defining standards down.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2025 04:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This probably spells doom for New Armstrong, assuming it was ever serious. I hope I am wrong.

I am not the only individual with a love of the past—Stoke looks to give new life to Bono’s plug nozzle.

Bono had another concept—perhaps not serious (used to show how a typical rocket design is best).
Still, his idea of a lenticular HLLV should get a fresh look: 

http://www.astronautix.com/b/bonosaucer.html

Here is why the design is desirable:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50748.msg2729497#msg2729497

Having a wide surface should lower wing loading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This probably spells doom for New Armstrong, assuming it was ever serious. I hope I am wrong.</p>
<p>I am not the only individual with a love of the past—Stoke looks to give new life to Bono’s plug nozzle.</p>
<p>Bono had another concept—perhaps not serious (used to show how a typical rocket design is best).<br />
Still, his idea of a lenticular HLLV should get a fresh look: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.astronautix.com/b/bonosaucer.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.astronautix.com/b/bonosaucer.html</a></p>
<p>Here is why the design is desirable:</p>
<p><a href="https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50748.msg2729497#msg2729497" rel="nofollow ugc">https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50748.msg2729497#msg2729497</a></p>
<p>Having a wide surface should lower wing loading.</p>
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		By: Dick Eagleson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Eagleson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 22:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SpaceX has added engines to Super Heavy and may do so again so why shouldn&#039;t Blue do the same to New Glenn?  Bring it on, say I.  It would seem that pretty much everything Blue says it wants to do in space would benefit from such an upgrade - particularly its lunar logistics architecture.  Perhaps the only reason New Glenn wasn&#039;t nine-engined to start with was Bezos&#039;s aversion to doing anything that looked too SpaceX-ish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SpaceX has added engines to Super Heavy and may do so again so why shouldn&#8217;t Blue do the same to New Glenn?  Bring it on, say I.  It would seem that pretty much everything Blue says it wants to do in space would benefit from such an upgrade &#8211; particularly its lunar logistics architecture.  Perhaps the only reason New Glenn wasn&#8217;t nine-engined to start with was Bezos&#8217;s aversion to doing anything that looked too SpaceX-ish.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rumblings about a nine-engine New Glenn follow on....

New Borman?
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54391.msg2729627#msg2729627

&quot;New Borman is obviously the proper name for a 9 engine New Glenn. Beyond just being the first time Humans got further than LEO, Apollo 8 was the first times humans flew on a super heavy lift LV. So it seems an appropriate name for a vehicle that would be flirting with the definition of super heavy lift.&quot;

PBS on the future of Seetee (CT) ships
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA4X9P98ess]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumblings about a nine-engine New Glenn follow on&#8230;.</p>
<p>New Borman?<br />
<a href="https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54391.msg2729627#msg2729627" rel="nofollow ugc">https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54391.msg2729627#msg2729627</a></p>
<p>&#8220;New Borman is obviously the proper name for a 9 engine New Glenn. Beyond just being the first time Humans got further than LEO, Apollo 8 was the first times humans flew on a super heavy lift LV. So it seems an appropriate name for a vehicle that would be flirting with the definition of super heavy lift.&#8221;</p>
<p>PBS on the future of Seetee (CT) ships<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA4X9P98ess" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA4X9P98ess</a></p>
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		By: Robert Zimmerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/october-30-2025-quick-space-links/#comment-1624338&quot;&gt;Michael McNeil&lt;/a&gt;.

Michael: I just realized that your comment was on the quick links that are scheduled for later today that were accidentally scheduled by me too early. I rescheduled them. Your original comment and my response will appear later today.

Sorry about the confusion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/october-30-2025-quick-space-links/#comment-1624338">Michael McNeil</a>.</p>
<p>Michael: I just realized that your comment was on the quick links that are scheduled for later today that were accidentally scheduled by me too early. I rescheduled them. Your original comment and my response will appear later today.</p>
<p>Sorry about the confusion.</p>
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		By: Michael McNeil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael McNeil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I posted this earlier today, but the original posting that it was in reply to has apparently been deleted. Presuming that “space” really is still the open topic, I&#039;ll repost:

Since the general topic is space, let&#039;s talk about what we&#039;ve been learning about &lt;i&gt;Venus&lt;/i&gt; in particular and &lt;i&gt;stagnant lid&lt;/i&gt; worlds in general. Of late, what we thought we knew about planet Venus has changed utterly.

Venus is what happens—not, it turns out, when there&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;climatic&lt;/i&gt; “runaway greenhouse effect” as hitherto supposed—but rather when you&#039;re a world lacking in &lt;i&gt;plate tectonics&lt;/i&gt;, which therefore is subject to so-called &lt;i&gt;lid tectonics&lt;/i&gt;.

In Venus&#039; case, this transformed what could have been a semi-habitable world into the hellhole we see there today—not by means of any kind of a &lt;i&gt;climatic&lt;/i&gt; catastrophe, but wholly &lt;i&gt;geologic&lt;/i&gt;.

Venus geologically is a so-called &lt;i&gt;stagnant lid&lt;/i&gt; world. (Other local examples: the Moon, Mars, Mercury, Vesta.) Rather than &lt;i&gt;plate tectonics&lt;/i&gt; (a.k.a. “mobile tectonics”), as Earth enjoys, Venus experiences &lt;i&gt;lid tectonics&lt;/i&gt;, which means that Venus&#039; crust—rather than being cracked into “plates,” whose motion, subduction, volcanoes, et al., act to release a great deal of internal heat—instead forms a thick cap (a “lid”) atop the venusian interior, &lt;i&gt;insulating&lt;/i&gt; it.

For those who like to contemplate physics in operation, imagine what such an insulating layer lying atop its (heat-generating) interior does to a world.

But no need to imagine, we now know (from its complete surficial dearth of old, large craters) that Venus around &lt;i&gt;half a billion years back&lt;/i&gt; underwent a tremendous convulsion—due to heat buildup in the “stagnant” mantle below—whereby Venus&#039; entire crust one fine day basically &lt;i&gt;turned over and melted&lt;/i&gt; (obviously a stupendous catastrophe), then &lt;i&gt;refroze&lt;/i&gt; into the nearly pristine surface (a scattering of tiny craters have arrived since the cataclysm, allowing rough dating) that we see there now.

The result is that any carbon hitherto resident in Venus&#039; crust—in calcite, limestone, coal, oil, or the bodies of any venusian inhabitants—would thereupon have been “cooked” and propelled into the atmosphere as CO2 gas. Thus, the situation we see on the planet today.

Indeed, this kind of “resurfacing” event (sounds so sanitary, doesn&#039;t it?) is a previously unimagined danger that stagnant-lid worlds, we now realize, are &lt;i&gt;generally&lt;/i&gt; (or at least many of them) subject to: a disaster which can “suddenly,” with almost no warning—over geologic timescales (of perhaps 100 million years or less), that is—transform formerly clement worlds into almost literal hellholes.

One might note that such disasters might occur &lt;i&gt;repetitively&lt;/i&gt; to “lid” world(s) like Venus.

#ScienceFiction and #SciFi has contemplated many kinds of planetary catastrophes—but it never imagined this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this earlier today, but the original posting that it was in reply to has apparently been deleted. Presuming that “space” really is still the open topic, I&#8217;ll repost:</p>
<p>Since the general topic is space, let&#8217;s talk about what we&#8217;ve been learning about <i>Venus</i> in particular and <i>stagnant lid</i> worlds in general. Of late, what we thought we knew about planet Venus has changed utterly.</p>
<p>Venus is what happens—not, it turns out, when there&#8217;s a <i>climatic</i> “runaway greenhouse effect” as hitherto supposed—but rather when you&#8217;re a world lacking in <i>plate tectonics</i>, which therefore is subject to so-called <i>lid tectonics</i>.</p>
<p>In Venus&#8217; case, this transformed what could have been a semi-habitable world into the hellhole we see there today—not by means of any kind of a <i>climatic</i> catastrophe, but wholly <i>geologic</i>.</p>
<p>Venus geologically is a so-called <i>stagnant lid</i> world. (Other local examples: the Moon, Mars, Mercury, Vesta.) Rather than <i>plate tectonics</i> (a.k.a. “mobile tectonics”), as Earth enjoys, Venus experiences <i>lid tectonics</i>, which means that Venus&#8217; crust—rather than being cracked into “plates,” whose motion, subduction, volcanoes, et al., act to release a great deal of internal heat—instead forms a thick cap (a “lid”) atop the venusian interior, <i>insulating</i> it.</p>
<p>For those who like to contemplate physics in operation, imagine what such an insulating layer lying atop its (heat-generating) interior does to a world.</p>
<p>But no need to imagine, we now know (from its complete surficial dearth of old, large craters) that Venus around <i>half a billion years back</i> underwent a tremendous convulsion—due to heat buildup in the “stagnant” mantle below—whereby Venus&#8217; entire crust one fine day basically <i>turned over and melted</i> (obviously a stupendous catastrophe), then <i>refroze</i> into the nearly pristine surface (a scattering of tiny craters have arrived since the cataclysm, allowing rough dating) that we see there now.</p>
<p>The result is that any carbon hitherto resident in Venus&#8217; crust—in calcite, limestone, coal, oil, or the bodies of any venusian inhabitants—would thereupon have been “cooked” and propelled into the atmosphere as CO2 gas. Thus, the situation we see on the planet today.</p>
<p>Indeed, this kind of “resurfacing” event (sounds so sanitary, doesn&#8217;t it?) is a previously unimagined danger that stagnant-lid worlds, we now realize, are <i>generally</i> (or at least many of them) subject to: a disaster which can “suddenly,” with almost no warning—over geologic timescales (of perhaps 100 million years or less), that is—transform formerly clement worlds into almost literal hellholes.</p>
<p>One might note that such disasters might occur <i>repetitively</i> to “lid” world(s) like Venus.</p>
<p>#ScienceFiction and #SciFi has contemplated many kinds of planetary catastrophes—but it never imagined this.</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 04:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The New Glenn static fire was successful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Glenn static fire was successful.</p>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Calvin,

The answer is &quot;Dear occupant&quot;

Interesting find via magnetics
https://phys.org/news/2025-10-strong-magnetic-field-duality-materials.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Calvin,</p>
<p>The answer is &#8220;Dear occupant&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting find via magnetics<br />
<a href="https://phys.org/news/2025-10-strong-magnetic-field-duality-materials.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://phys.org/news/2025-10-strong-magnetic-field-duality-materials.html</a></p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 23:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two other good pieces of news today:

1) The Haven Demo has been confirmed to be scheduled for launch this Saturday night on the Bandwagon 4 mission.

2) The second New Glenn is vertical on pad 36 at CCSFS in preparation for its launch of Escapade.  Expect a static fire to occur shortly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two other good pieces of news today:</p>
<p>1) The Haven Demo has been confirmed to be scheduled for launch this Saturday night on the Bandwagon 4 mission.</p>
<p>2) The second New Glenn is vertical on pad 36 at CCSFS in preparation for its launch of Escapade.  Expect a static fire to occur shortly.</p>
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		By: Calvin Dodge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calvin Dodge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 23:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How does one say &quot;Roscosmos&quot; in Chinese?]]></description>
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		By: Jeff Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 22:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talk about SPACS making a return
https://spacenews.com/interest-rate-cut-further-fuels-space-investor-optimism-amid-talk-of-returning-spacs/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about SPACS making a return<br />
<a href="https://spacenews.com/interest-rate-cut-further-fuels-space-investor-optimism-amid-talk-of-returning-spacs/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://spacenews.com/interest-rate-cut-further-fuels-space-investor-optimism-amid-talk-of-returning-spacs/</a></p>
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