Axiom gets $100 million of investment capital from Hungarian company
Axiom’s assembly sequence for its planned station, initially attached to ISS but subsequently detached
The space station startup Axiom has now obtained a $100 million investment by the Hungarian communications provider 4iG.
The company said Dec. 19 it has committed to invest $30 million in Axiom by the end of 2025, followed by an additional $70 million by March 31, 2026.
In October, 4iG announced a non-binding commitment letter to evaluate a potential $100 million investment in Axiom Space. The agreement outlined a separate $100 million framework for cooperation on the development of orbital data center systems over the next five years. 4iG said in a news release that the Axiom investment would provide Hungary with an opportunity to secure a long-term role in orbital data centre programs and space-based data processing and storage, but did not provide details.
In 2024 there were rumors the company had a serious cash shortage, though since then construction of its first two modules has proceeded as planned, with a launch of the first module still set for sometime in 2026. This new infusion of cash should shore up Axiom’s station construction considerably.
My rankings of the commercial space stations now under development:
- Haven-1, being built by Vast, with no NASA funds. The company is moving fast, with Haven-1 to launch in 2026 for a three-year period during which it will be occupied by four 2-week-long manned missions. The company is already testing an unmanned small demo module in orbit. By flying actual hardware and manned missions it hopes this will put it in the lead to win NASA’s phase 2 contract to build its much larger multi-module Haven-2 station. It has also made preliminary deals with Colombia, Uzbekistan, Japan, and the Maldives possible astronaut flights to Haven-1.
- Axiom, being built by Axiom, has launched four tourist flights to ISS, with the fourth carrying government passengers from India, Hungary, and Poland. The rumors of cash flow issues seem to have been alleviated with an infusion of $100 million from Hungary’s telecommunications company 4iG. The development of its first two modules has also been proceeding more or less as planned, with the first’s hull completed and presently undergoing testing. It has also signed Redwire to build that module’s solar panels.
- Starlab, being built by a consortium led by Voyager Space, Airbus, and Northrop Grumman, with extensive partnership agreements with the European Space Agency and others. Though no construction has yet begun on its NASA-approved design, it has raised $383 million in a public stock offering in addition to the $217.5 million provided by NASA. It has also begun signing up a number of companies to build the station’s hardware.
- Orbital Reef, being built by a consortium led by Blue Origin and Sierra Space. This station looks increasingly dead in the water. Blue Origin has built almost nothing, as seems normal for this company. And while Sierra Space has successfully tested its inflatable modules, including a full scale version, its reputation is soured by its failure in getting its Dream Chaser cargo mini-shuttle launched.
There is also a fifth American company, Max Space, that had previously marketed itself as a maker of inflatable modules for sale to these other stations. It recently announced its design of a larger module, Thunderbird, that it hopes to launch independently in 2029 on its own demonstration mission.
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The print edition can be purchased at Amazon or from any other book seller. If you want an autographed copy the price is $60 for the hardback and $45 for the paperback, plus $8 shipping for each. Go here for purchasing details. The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
Axiom’s assembly sequence for its planned station, initially attached to ISS but subsequently detached
The space station startup Axiom has now obtained a $100 million investment by the Hungarian communications provider 4iG.
The company said Dec. 19 it has committed to invest $30 million in Axiom by the end of 2025, followed by an additional $70 million by March 31, 2026.
In October, 4iG announced a non-binding commitment letter to evaluate a potential $100 million investment in Axiom Space. The agreement outlined a separate $100 million framework for cooperation on the development of orbital data center systems over the next five years. 4iG said in a news release that the Axiom investment would provide Hungary with an opportunity to secure a long-term role in orbital data centre programs and space-based data processing and storage, but did not provide details.
In 2024 there were rumors the company had a serious cash shortage, though since then construction of its first two modules has proceeded as planned, with a launch of the first module still set for sometime in 2026. This new infusion of cash should shore up Axiom’s station construction considerably.
My rankings of the commercial space stations now under development:
- Haven-1, being built by Vast, with no NASA funds. The company is moving fast, with Haven-1 to launch in 2026 for a three-year period during which it will be occupied by four 2-week-long manned missions. The company is already testing an unmanned small demo module in orbit. By flying actual hardware and manned missions it hopes this will put it in the lead to win NASA’s phase 2 contract to build its much larger multi-module Haven-2 station. It has also made preliminary deals with Colombia, Uzbekistan, Japan, and the Maldives possible astronaut flights to Haven-1.
- Axiom, being built by Axiom, has launched four tourist flights to ISS, with the fourth carrying government passengers from India, Hungary, and Poland. The rumors of cash flow issues seem to have been alleviated with an infusion of $100 million from Hungary’s telecommunications company 4iG. The development of its first two modules has also been proceeding more or less as planned, with the first’s hull completed and presently undergoing testing. It has also signed Redwire to build that module’s solar panels.
- Starlab, being built by a consortium led by Voyager Space, Airbus, and Northrop Grumman, with extensive partnership agreements with the European Space Agency and others. Though no construction has yet begun on its NASA-approved design, it has raised $383 million in a public stock offering in addition to the $217.5 million provided by NASA. It has also begun signing up a number of companies to build the station’s hardware.
- Orbital Reef, being built by a consortium led by Blue Origin and Sierra Space. This station looks increasingly dead in the water. Blue Origin has built almost nothing, as seems normal for this company. And while Sierra Space has successfully tested its inflatable modules, including a full scale version, its reputation is soured by its failure in getting its Dream Chaser cargo mini-shuttle launched.
There is also a fifth American company, Max Space, that had previously marketed itself as a maker of inflatable modules for sale to these other stations. It recently announced its design of a larger module, Thunderbird, that it hopes to launch independently in 2029 on its own demonstration mission.
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The print edition can be purchased at Amazon or from any other book seller. If you want an autographed copy the price is $60 for the hardback and $45 for the paperback, plus $8 shipping for each. Go here for purchasing details. The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
Very good news!
Hungary has a long and storied history of supporting math and science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1m68ja8/what_were_the_social_or_cultural_reasons_behind
–and I thank them for supporting spaceflight.
Would be good to send some from Hungary to Mars in honor of the Hungarian martians
The more money flowing into Commercial LEO the better.
It warms the cockles of my heart to see the word ‘investment” in combination with Capitalism In Space. Too often, democrats and RINOs talk about government “investing” in [ FILL-IN-THE-BLANK ]. Those “investments” are very easy when you are spending other people’s money.
If you ever get the chance, visit Budapest. Wonderful city.
One of the serendipitous effects of Private Space, is the removal of space activity from the Progressive radar. With Government as the primary purveyor of space services, funds spent there are targets for people who think it would be better spent ‘for the children’, or ‘historically disadvantaged peoples’, or whatever the cause du jour is. Indeed, with the shift of capability from the collective to the individual, based on my readings of the popular press, Progressives are calling for more Government space funding and control. It’s all just so very bourgeoisie to have uncontrolled individuals in charge of The Next Great Thing.
Reading his Project ATHENA paper, it appears that getting the Commercial LEO Destinations program fast tracked is a priority for Isaacman, and well it should be. There’s not a moment to lose.
Blair you hit it just right. There’s still a large part of the space community that can’t get its head around not being able to tell the private companies what to do and when to do it. Doesn’t stop them from trying, though. I heard one of David Livingston’s episodes recently where the guest talked about Musk wanting to buy a ride for one of his ideas early on and nobody would sell him one. That started him down the road to SpaceX
Blair,
“Indeed, with the shift of capability from the collective to the individual, based on my readings of the popular press, …”
If government would REQUIRE individual effort, then we would most likely have greatly reduced welfare programs, with a likely increase in GDP due to more active workers. That should free up more cash ‘for the children’. If only both parties saw it that way.
That would include cutting out most welfare for non-citizens. Or the Dems can simply take it out of the political slush funds that they’ve built up. Would maybe require an IOU to cover Dem National Committee donations for the next 15-20 years.
“”””If government would REQUIRE individual effort, then we would most likely have greatly reduced welfare programs, with a likely increase in GDP due to more active workers. That should free up more cash ‘for the children’. If only both parties saw it that way.”””””
We may have a bit of disagreement here. The government shouldn’t be in the business of requiring individual effort. It also shouldn’t be in the business of subsidizing lack of effort. To each according to his needs results in expanding needs towards infinite.
Let us keep our tax dollars that go to subsidizing the hungry, the school system, the people that don’t try in general. I think one would find that there would be less hungry as they would do what it takes to earn food money. More focused training as people thought in terms of useful education in their own self interest. Less people having kids they can’t afford to raise and more responsible people being able to afford kids as a result.
I could go on for pages on the system problems.
John hare,
“I could go on for pages on the system problems.”
You and me both, brother. If you pay people to not work, you’re going to get a lot of people not working, and — Oh! — that’s exactly what we’re getting.
Fewer workers means, there are fewer goods and services for the same number of people, so prices increase, and the non-workers need even more money to buy the same things, as though it comes from Santa Clause. Then those who do all the work decide that they, too, can be well-paid layabouts, because Santa Clause. Quickly we get the same conditions that the Pilgrims found themselves in, those first few months at Plymouth Rock.
The Indians didn’t give the Pilgrims what they needed, they taught the Pilgrims the eccentricities of the local corn food and how to gather fish to be the fertilizer that the corn needs. The Pilgrims were farmers, so they didn’t need to learn to farm, but they weren’t fishermen, so they didn’t know how to fish for the corn’s fertilizer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he creates a nation so strong that it can beat back worldwide tyranny. Twice.
Right now, we are giving far too many men their daily fish rather than teaching them to fish.
To Blair—the removal af Progressives from space just shoves them further into the Green camp.
No thanks.
Democrats have their own Ted Cruz types—and that stymied Greens more than Ted ever stymied Elon.
Anchors are supposed to be heavy or there is no stupidity. Defense contractors are the only reason we even HAVE a military, otherwise the DNC would have killed it if there were no Dems on the take.
Concentration of wealth actually HELPS democrats—if space employed less people, it becomes a bigger target.
Take Gavin (please…I get it).
He is no fool—at least understanding some sense of reality about SpaceX.
Greens will dynamite launch pads same as dams—old space, new space—it makes NO difference to them…Gavin being their Mitt Romney—a sell out.
A greedy democrat is therefore on some kind of invisible leash.
Get someone like Bernie who gets more grass roots support—and all bets are off.
“To Blair—the removal [o]f Progressives from space just shoves them further into the Green camp.”
Good. Greens and their political running buddies (race industry, alphabet industry, climate scaremongers) are increasingly irrelevant in the public conversation, because people have seen that Liberalism Doesn’t Work. It’s hideously expensive, in both human and resource capital, and is in direct contravention of physical law.
A couple of pinko commie points to make here… “subsidizing the hungry, the school system, the people that don’t try in general.” There is a vast difference between funding a viable school system.. ( education never made anyone poorer) , the hungry ( we have an obligation to put food in hungry mouthes, read a bit of the bible if you disagree ) , and subsiding those unwilling to help themselves.
Here in Sweden, and in the UK. to claim unemployment benefits you need to provide proof you are actively seeking work. Job applications, proof of interviews etc. Also the claimant must be willing to re-train if necessary. This system strikes me as fair. It is only right to give those willing to try a helping hand.
Back to the point of the thread. Whatever became of Bigalow Space? Is their inflatable module still attached to the ISS? Is Sierra Space using the tech for their inflatable project? It seems too promising to just leave by the wayside.
Lee S: BEAM is still attached and working on ISS. Bigelow is gone however. Some of its people moved to Max Space, which is using the same inflatable technology.
As for Sierra Space, it uses inflatable technology as well, as does Lockheed Martin’s own test module. It appears that either it is not patented, or each company is approaching the issue differently.
Lee S wrote: “ and subsiding those unwilling to help themselves.”
And yet, for decades the United States was doing just that all around the world, and now those who could but didn’t help themselves — and still ungratefully won’t thank us for subsidizing them — complain that we now expect them to help themselves.
Even now, we Americans increased our entire national debt by 1% to defend Europe from Russia’s active invasion, and Europe hesitates to help defend itself, expecting us to go even deeper into debt in order to continue helping them. We are tired of subsidizing the world’s pharmaceuticals, which is why they are so very expensive here in the U.S.
And that stupid poem that tells the world to send us their tired, their poor, their huddled masses yearning to breathe free is the opposite of the intended message of the Statue of Liberty’s beacon of hope, pointing outward onto the world. It was intended to shine a light upon the peoples of the world, encouraging them to make themselves just as free as America. Instead, they came to America, leaving their neighbors, friends, and families to continue suffering under dictatorial leaders. Back then, back before it was those looking to be subsidized by America’s largess and when those who came wanted to contribute to it, taking in the immigrants wasn’t so bad. It led to an America that is not only free to but able to make four or so private, commercial space-stations, something that only governments were able to do before.
”…education never made anyone poorer…”
Lee, you obviously haven’t been following the travails of millions of people who went heavily into debt to get useless degrees from Western centers of higher education only to get a job serving coffee at the local Starbucks. Probably the most symbolic was one bloke a few years ago who quit his day job, went $50,000 into debt to get a masters degree in puppetry, and then loudly complained because big corporations wouldn’t partake of his puppetry services. “Capitalism has failed.” I think he said.
His education certainly made him poorer. He didn’t even learn from his mistake.
”…education never made anyone poorer…”
True education is incredibly valuable. Warehousing young people until they are 18 at high expense ($17K/year per student K-12) is not educating them. Many do manage to become educated in spite of the corrupt system of current education. The amount of money shoveled into the education industry should eliminate teachers buying supplies out of their own pocket and the constant student fundraisers that also teach them to beg.
I’m sure there might be a way to feed the hungry without making them dependent on the state. That’s not what’s happening here. Also, in my local area, immigrants are a strong net positive. Other areas of the country apparently have different experiences.
We could use a new company to custom manufacture module connectors/docking systems.
Something all the other companies can just order and buy.
Thanks Bob…. The fact that the module is still operating is a big “proof of concept” after 10 years.
If i recall correctly it was NASA that developed the tech. I don’t recall if they shared the IP or sold it. If they shared it then I guess it is open source if Bigalow no longer want it.
This really is the poster boy for how government and private enterprise should interact… Develop, then if not practical to use directly, share the tech with US companies ( and their partners ;-)
Presumably the cost of an inflatable module is a fraction of the cost of a regular metal module… A ring of inflatables rotating to simulate gravity? A very roomy ship from LEO to Mars orbit?
Thinking a little outside the box… The possibilities are legion!
Lee S: Anything that NASA developed is open source.
To Blair–remember…Greens have natural allies with Karens, Nimby-types and HOAs.
They are going nowhere–and want everyone stuck with them.
@Bob…
I wasn’t aware of that. How wonderful! I guess that is why data from rovers/probes is pretty much instantly available these days. ESA should take note.
mkent,
How about the guy in Washington (or was it Oregon?) who was educated about marxism and decided to apply that lesson to his own company. He paid everyone the same, only to discover that his best employees quit to go to better-paying companies, and his worst employees remained, dragging down the company. He seemed genuinely surprised and disappointed that he went out of business. Another example of education making someone poorer.
It isn’t just that college costs a lot, it teaches the wrong lessons, so that when the graduates apply those disinformative-lessons, the graduates do poorly, ending up poorer than if they had learned the right way to work in the world.
The guy you thought said capitalism failed, well, that was capitalism working as intended. Capitalism’s main benefit is that the successful are the ones who produce what the customers want and those who do not are bound to fail, and then they must find out what the customers want in order to do better the next time. The puppeteer failed to do step 1: find out what the customers want. He went straight to step 2, so he supplied something that they didn’t want.
And, yes, NASA’s research is paid by the U.S. taxpayer, so it becomes available to the world, except for ITAR restrictions. Yet another subsidy to the world from the U.S. taxpayer.
Edward:
There was a new coffee shop in Portland with great location: next to the stadium and in a population-rich neighborhood. The local paper interviewed the owner, and nearly his entire interview focused on his current and planned social outreach efforts. Not why someone might choose his shop over several others in the neighborhood. My first thought was “Not gonna last six months.” I think he lasted about three, but don’t need to be Nostradamus, here.
Everyone on this Forum has these stories, but the face-smacking, jaw-dropping, totally flabbergasting thing is: can you not learn? Isn’t that a requirement for a successful organism? It is as if some folks are completely incapable of learning, even from their own experience. I would argue the sentience of those individuals. A lack of self-awareness to the extent that you cannot engage in survival behaviour “Well, that didn’t work, and almost killed me. I’ll try something else.” is deeply troubling.
In the UK there is a serious “cost of living” crisis, ( and has been for several years ) inflation has outpaced wage raises for years now, leaving even hard working folks struggling, it is known as “heat or eat”
There are many successful eateries helping out… Free lunches for kids during the breaks ( they would have school dinners during term time) , Xmas dinners for pensioners etc. At all major supermarkets you can leave a donation of essentials ( think nappies, formula, sanitary products. Plus food of course ) to be distributed to the needy who are let down by the system. Remember I said that the needy include hard working individuals, most note worthy are nurses and teachers!
This spontaneous creation of a shadow social safety net is the sign of a compassionate society.
And the restaurants and take aways doing their bit gain great PR… It is a 2 way street where no one loses. It is just a shame these measures are needed in one of the richest countries in the world.
The UK needs to have a long hard look at itself. And dare I say it… It would behove the US to do the same for all the same reasons.
Wishing everyone a very happy Christmas… Remember, goodwill to all men.
Lee S,
The problem is similar to the military in which the ones making the insane deployments are safe back at HQ while the ones on the sharp end are sent into no win situations. Some of the cities on the west coast have budgets for the homeless that work out to over $100K per year per homeless. Clearly the vast majority of that doesn’t reach the needy. I would suggest that homeless people are pawns in the homeless industry. I could go on about the corruption of so many institutions.
To me, the core problem is twofold. One is the roadblocks to lifting themselves out. Drug testing, minimum wages higher than value added, rent controls, And heavy regulation on appropriate housing.
The other being the effort to subsidize people that work the system as a career choice. The subsidies that go to the career grifters take away from the truly needy and deserving. Just as you can’t out earn addiction, you can’t out earn the criminal grifters. If you’ve ever wondered about the stinginess of Workmans Comp payouts, just look at the masses of fake disabled drawing on the system.
@john hare
Im sorry, I have no idea how the system to help those at need works over there… Unfortunately I have a good understanding of the UK system ( or lack of… ) , it seems to be more or less working here in socialist Sweden, although of course there are still major problems.
Your presumtionen that i would have a clue what “Workmans Comp payouts” means shines a light on the UScentric worldview of most of the folks here.
I would recommend buying yourselves a short break in a European country of your choice… Try and stay away from capital cities, travel a little outside the tourist traps,. experience the genuine country… You might be pleasantly surprised at what you experience. It might even alter your opinion on other systems of governance. ( I have been saying this for over a decade, and still no boots on the ground reports from a single poster here from Europe… Just saying)
Blair Ivey,
You wrote: “It is as if some folks are completely incapable of learning, even from their own experience. I would argue the sentience of those individuals. A lack of self-awareness to the extent that you cannot engage in survival behaviour ‘Well, that didn’t work, and almost killed me. I’ll try something else.’ is deeply troubling.”
But that is the lesson to learn in a marxist society. Whether you are successful or a failure, to each according to his need. If you are a success, they take away your success to give it to the failures, the layabouts, and the actual needy. That last one is what we had intended our safety net to care for, but instead it turned into a hammock for those who “work the system.” When venture and hustle are robbed at the same time that lethargy and idleness are supported, why go to all that work when you can play X-Box all day? Heck, Disneyland and fast food joints take EBT cards (previously “food stamps” for grocery shopping), and the food joints make a shocking percentage of their sales on those cards.
Someone please explain to me why I should work long hours and pay high taxes just so the slovenly can have a better lifestyle than I do.
Anyone? Lee S? Anyone?
“… to be distributed to the needy who are let down by the system.”
Do you mean the marxist system? Wasn’t there less crisis, less need for these emergency services, when people were encouraged to work, add to the productivity and the available goods and services (making them more affordable), and pay their fair share of taxes rather than lay around, suck the products of the productive, and pay no taxes?
“… where no one loses.”
Except for the company owners, who are making less money and less profit that they could have used to expand and hire those who are receiving the free goods and services. And also except for the people who don’t get hired because of that lack of revenue and profit. And the taxpayer because there are fewer taxpayers paying for the operation of the marxist government, so there is less to pay the teachers and bobbies, and the education suffers, too. A lot more people lose than is visible to the eye. See Frédéric Bastiat’s What Is Seen and What Is Not Seen.
“It would behove the US to do the same [have a long hard look at itself] for all the same reasons.”
That is what we are doing here, right now. That marxist experiment is failing the U.K. and is failing the U.S., making everything worse.
Marxism is why we can’t have nice stuff.
“I have no idea how the system to help those at need works over there…”
So, why do you think the U.S. should have a long hard look at itself? If you don’t know about the system, why do you think that we don’t, either, we who live and work here, watching our fellow citizens and the illegal aliens use our hard-earned tax money for fast food instead of the much less expensive groceries? Don’t you suppose that it would be better for us if the illegals got the hell out of here so that there were more for we hard workers and at lower prices, due to the lower demand, and if the layabouts became productive, adding even more to the supply, again lowering the prices, and paying their fair share of taxes? And how much lower would taxes be if there weren’t all the corruption that is spreading like a cancer throughout California and metastasizing to the other states?
john hare
“I could go on about the corruption of so many institutions.”
I routinely listen to a California radio program that often goes on about the corruption of so many institutions in this state. We are heavily taxed and our services are disappearing. The state’s citizens are fleeing by the million. It is why the state’s government is so eager to take in criminal illegal aliens, so that the state can appear to be more needy than the productive states. This is what we get for living in a single-party marxist state and an increasingly marxist nation.
Edward:
I have been paying attention to the California political scene the past few years for a blog. Hoo boy. It looks like the Democrat-set autopilot the last several decades have run the ship of state not only aground, but actively burrowing into the earth.
Ahhhh Edward,
Save up some of your food stamps and do yourself a favour and take a trip to Europe. Expand your horizons and your mind a little. You will be pretty surprised by what you see.
No sign of Marxist ideology… ( Perhaps there was in Eastern Europe… 6 decades ago.. time to update your calendar? )
Many signs of diverse and successful economies, diverse and successful societies. As Bob likes to point out, the sky is certainly not falling in.
I admit to having no idea how the benefits system works over there, but you dont need to know how something works to see the results.
And when I said “no one loses” you obviously chose to ignore the context. The companies doing charitable work find business ticks upward because the paying public appreciates the effort made and show their appreciation with footfall and wallets. The needy get a meal and the business does a little better thanks to a thoughtful public.
As a very right wing crowd, I can only presume the readership here is mostly Christian… Although if so you would never guess it from the comments. Jesus was the very definition of a socialist. Good will to ALL men, not just those who agree with your oh so blinkered world view.
Merry Christmas, ( and take that trip to Europe, do something that scares you at least once in your life )
Ahhhh…. I try to just come for the space stuff, but the political stuff just blows my brains to the point I can’t hold myself back.
I always get scolded for my viewpoint by folk that believe the world starts at the US west coast and ends at the east coast. Folk that have never taken the huge step to actually go and experience another culture… Folk so indoctrinated in the US MAGA agenda that they actually believe that over here in Europe, we are a continent beholden to a socialist agenda. Well guys… Here’s a heads up… Democracy is alive and well over here.. more so than in your political cess pool, and while I might not agree with the politics of the results of many elections, I accept the results… It’s called democracy. If things don’t fall in the way I would have preferred… We try harder next time around.
I know you enjoy berating me for my veiws and political leaning, and I’m sure Edward will enjoy pointing out where I am wrong… But as I said to him… Take that trip to Europe… Come and see how a caring inclusive society doesn’t mean capitulation, see how it’s normal to teach a man to fish. But it’s also normal to give a starving mother a loaf. It’s called kindness, it’s called inclusiveness, it’s called common decency towards your fellow man.
I actually find many of the attitudes here deeply offensive… No feelings of empathy for those down on their asses who are just in need of a hand up. It’s obviously these folks fault for being born poor, for having mental issues they cannot afford to address, for having medical issues, which the treatment of leaves them bankrupt.
America has a lot of fantastic attributes, but kindness towards your fellow man ain’t amongst them. And I invite anyone to explain how I am wrong on this point.
Merry Christmas
Lee S wrote, “I always get scolded for my viewpoint by folk that believe the world starts at the US west coast and ends at the east coast.”
How the hell do you know that what others believe? You don’t, you just imagine anyone who disagrees with you is a shallow-minded fool.
Lee S also wrote, “Folk that have never taken the huge step to actually go and experience another culture…”
And how the hell do you know that no one here has never visited other cultures? You don’t, you just imagine you are the only human in the world to visit other places, and everyone else is a close-minded fool.
This is why people hit back at you. You don’t argue facts, you argue emotions, and you do it in an incredibly insulting manner. And you don’t even realize you are doing it.
Now I can’t hold myself back:
AMERICA: ONE DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT AWAY
https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/america-one-democrat-president-away
The only solution? Think France in 1789, they started with the lawyers and politicians I believe. The UK is experiencing the beginning rewards of the fulfillment of the Sorsian / Globalist / U.N. Agenda 2030.
The politicians in power, the Liberal “Ruling Elite”, as they like to refer to themselves in the UK are all Globalist aligned politically castrated beta males who are driving their country into a civil war situation. There will be blood?
This is exactly what the Globalist U.N. Agenda 2030 intends for America: https://youtu.be/drOvvj_BDxg?si=aEsKAfRO-BRNpVzB
This was all to be delivered and installed further and permanently under the royal presidency of Queen Hillary Clinton (Ma Barker).
America is literally one Democrat president away from certain civil war, destruction and also being served up to fulfill the Sorosian / Globalist / U.N. Agenda 2030. You will comply.
L.A., Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Boston and now New York, all taken over by fully trained ideologically Marxist “Democrat Socialist” mayors. New York City will be the “progressive” / Marxist proof of concept where the Bernie Sanders Communist utopia is delivered to America and show cased for the world to see.
And the UK is what you can soon expect to further grow in America if this poisonous Leftist mind virus is not stopped out. You can already see it metastasizing.
There is only one leader and administration in power today in America, personally like him or not, that stands between you and them. America is truly one mindless Democrat presidential Potemkin meat puppet away from what you can clearly see going on in the UK.
Are You Paying Attention Yet America? JGL 12/25/25
Bonus Sweden specific content: SWEDEN HAS ESSENTIALLY LEGALIZED RAPE
“The legal precedence for committing rape in Sweden has been established. Just make it quick ;)”
https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/sweden-has-essentially-legalized-rape
Robert,
It is more than just Lee S’s lack of imagination and his emotional beliefs rather than rational knowledge about the world. He has made it known in previous such arguments that he feels he is different than American leftists, but he is not.
He is impressive in that first sentence that you quoted from him: “I always get scolded for my viewpoint by folk that believe the world starts at the US west coast and ends at the east coast.” He complains that he is scolded, but then he scolds us for having a different viewpoint, all in the same sentence. Here he is different than most U.S. leftists in that he can do this in a single sentence, whereas most of the time American leftists take more than a one to do the same hypocrisy. He may be right that he is better than American leftists, but not in the way he thinks. On the other hand, he is just like our leftists in that he feels that disagreement is something else, like scolding or hatred.
Just like our leftists, he uses emotion rather than rational arguments. He feels that we should feel bad for scolding him — mischaracterizing our rational thinking rather than his much more valid feelings. He is right, because: feelings. We are wrong, because: facts. For leftists, American or otherwise, feelings trump facts, which is why he is intractable. I’m learning less and less from him, these days.