Blacklisting “disruptive” vets from medical care.


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We’re here to help you! The Veterans administration keeps a database administrated by secret committees that lists vets as “disruptive” and “disgruntled,” which it then uses to restrict their treatment.

Among examples of patients’ behavior referred to the VA’s “Disruptive Behavior Committees” (yes, that’s what they’re called): venting “frustration about VA services and/or wait times, threatening lawsuits or to have people fired, and frequent unwarranted visits to the emergency department or telephone calls to facility staff.”

As Krause explains, the Disruptive Behavior Committees are secret panels “that decide whether or not to flag veterans without providing due process first. The veteran then has his or her right of access to care restricted without prior notice.”

Obviously, the VA demonstrates once again why we must put the entire healthcare industry under government control. If they can do it to vets, why shouldn’t the rest of the government not have the power to do it to us all!

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  • Cotour

    And it is said that “there are no death panel’s”. Looks like they arise as a natural function of empowering individual human beings with the power to choose what will be and what will not be for other individual human beings under their control. You don’t have to purposefully create them, they create themselves.

    To better understand the potential for “good” and well meaning people to go “bad” is demonstrated in an experiment conducted by Phillip Zimbardo in something called The Zimbardo Prison Experiment.

    http://youtu.be/GePFFf5gRKo

    This is the underlying nature of the human being and it does not matter how much you analyze or intellectualize it, this is what we are. What stands between our nature and these bad results and the coming bad results of Obamacare and now the VA and equality and freedom?

    That’s right its the Constitution. That’s all that stands between us and it.

  • Cotour

    QUESTION: IS HEALTHCARE ARE RIGHT?

    (I got into an contentious conversation with two ladies of color, one, the mother, a Liberal friend of mine and her daughter who chooses to live and work in the Socialist “utopia”, the Netherlands. This writing exercise is the result)

    First, what is a right? Lets clarify all of the purposeful confusion.

    A right is something that protects you FROM government and not something that government bestows, gives or provides to its citizens.

    Is healthcare a right? Or is healthcare a service, a “thing”, provided by a business model and the people who provide it through their expertise and work? How can you compel an individual to deliver a service to another individual through their work and call it a right? You can not.

    How can healthcare be considered a right?

    When the Founders hashed out the bill of rights that applied to the American citizens of the day and those who would come to be in the future in all of their races and creeds they were not interested in what government MUST provide TO its citizens. What were they concerned with? The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were documents that rejected the abusive nature and eventual oppressive and ruthless ways of Kings, government and governance and its nature to confiscate through taxation the peoples wealth and by extension their freedom and property, plain and simple.

    The Founders proposed that an American individual upon birth is bestowed with certain inalienable, undeniable or unstripable rights. Not violated without reasonable and established through laws that recognized those primary rights anyway and a legal system to do so for cause. In other words government is the giver of nothing to the citizen, neither life nor rights. The individual in America is primary and the government is secondary. Government is necessary, but it is a necessary evil, especially if not properly checked and counter balanced. Government as structured in America by the Founders must never disregard the established and enumerated rights of the people. And these rights are not things or services that anyone might think good to have or think essential to their comfort or good life, like a hair cut or a house. That clearly is not the envisioned function of government in America.

    Where is it argued that healthcare IS a “thing”, IS a fundamental right of the citizens of a country? In places like the EU which is a much, much more socialist oriented collection of country’s. And what are the real costs of such thinking and actions on the part of a government which in this model is primary and the citizen is secondary? Higher taxation and a much, much higher level of government management and involvement in the personal lives of the citizens that populate it. Which is fundamentally at odds with the formulated intent and basic success of America where the individual, his or her wealth, right to private property and freedom is primary and not the collective as in the socialist “utopias” that exist to varying degrees around the world. Venezuela being an extreme example of what happens when this kind of thinking plays itself out and the state runs out of other peoples money.

    So in conclusion, is healthcare a right? No, healthcare is most decidedly not at all a right, healthcare is a thing and a service provided by a business model and the individuals that provide the “thing” and the service are compensated for their expertise and work. Not at all meeting the definition of a right as it relates to the peoples rights related to governance and abuse of power in America.

    Conversely, is it desirable to have access to good healthcare and healthcare services? Absolutely.

    But it is not incumbent on government, specifically the American government, to provide healthcare because when government decides that it must provide it, as in the differently conceived socialist “utopias” of the world, government must confiscate more and more of the citizens wealth in order to pay for it all. Remember, government has no money, it is devoid of funds other than what it is able to confiscate through taxation from its citizens. And in so doing so confiscates more and more of their citizens freedom until there is little to none left, and then the government has usurped all of the peoples freedoms and they all now work for it. And freedom, as it is in America, is primary and not secondary as it is formulated in these supposed socialist “utopias”. A clear trade off, degrees of individuals wealth, private property and freedom for services and “things”. No thank you.

    America is different and not the same and the constant Liberal / Leftist, and that is exactly what it is, strategy and drive to change that difference and make America the same as the others through attempting to redefine words and terms and change America into another socialist “Utopia” is counter to all that is America and American.

    So lets just accept that America is thank God not like the other country’s on the planet, and that as Martha says, is a good thing. Lets keep it that way.

    MAGA

  • Col Beausabre

    Just one of the reasons this veteran refuses to have anything to do with the VA. As did my father, who saw combat (as opposed to serving) in the Pacific in World War II

  • wayne

    Col Beausabre–
    My Dad was receiving medical care from our local VA office when he got caught up in the hydrocodone up-scheduling fiasco. {Lortab 7.5/325, 4 tabs/daily}
    Overnight they had 400+ patients that suddenly had to physically show up at the clinic every single month to get their pain-killer RX’s, and they all had to be shipped from the central VA pharmacy, which took another 2-3 weeks in total.
    There was no way they could physically see everyone, every 30 days, and nobody received refills unless they were seen in person. The poor guy had zero pain-killers the last 3 days of his life, his bottle of #30, showed up the day of his funeral.

  • Cotour

    Gentlemen, respectfully:

    While the specifics of your stories are both relevant and moving, the subject of my post is : Is healthcare a right?

    The tendency to migrate off the pertinent subject is not helpful in the political warfare that we are engaged in. This healthcare is a right argument is being freely used to manipulate and obfuscate the public’s mind and actions.

    This is political warfare.

  • wayne

    “the tendency to migrate off the pertinent subject is not helpful in the political warfare that we are engaged in.”

    OK….

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