Christian baker files lawsuit against Colorado for continuing harassment


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Fascist Colorado: Despite a victory in the Supreme Court allowing him to refuse to back cakes with political themes he disagrees with, the Christian baker in Colorado has been forced to file another lawsuit against the state’s Civil Rights Commission for continuing harassment.

On the same day the high court agreed to review the Masterpiece case, an attorney named Autumn Scardina called Phillips’ shop and asked him to create a cake celebrating a sex transition. The caller asked that the cake include a blue exterior and a pink interior, a reflection of Scardina’s transgender identity. Phillips declined to create the cake, given his religious conviction that sex is immutable, while offering to sell the caller other pre-made baked goods.

In the months that followed, the bakery received requests for cakes featuring marijuana use, sexually explicit messages, and Satanic symbols. One solicitation submitted by email asked the cake shop to create a three-tiered white cake depicting Satan licking a functional 9 inch dildo. Phillips believes Scardina made all these requests.

Scardina filed a complaint with the civil rights commission, alleging discrimination on the basis of gender identity. The matter was held in abeyance while the Supreme Court adjudicated the Masterpiece case.

Three weeks after Phillips won at the high court, the commission issued a probable cause determination, finding there was sufficient evidence to support Scardina’s claim of discrimination. In a somewhat strange development, the probable cause finding reads that Phillips violated state law, even though the proceedings are still in a preliminary stage.

Masterpiece has filed suit against the commission for instituting these proceedings, which clearly contradict the Supreme Court ruling.

Essentially this campaign by one gay rights lawyer in league with the commission, is aimed at destroying this business, merely because of its owner’s personal religious beliefs. He gladly sells his products to anyone, he merely refuses to create cakes with political messages he disagrees with. To try to destroy him for this, using the government, is the epitome of fascism.

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  • Cotour

    This is all and only about the general American public being forced to accept and embrace as “Normal” (Upper case) what in reality and in fact is “normal” (lower case) and totally destroying anyone else’s opinion on the subject at hand through force of law.

    This is normal, lower case:

    https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/14/vermont-primary-christine-hallquist-wins-democratic-primary-phil-scott-republican/991259002/

    A person that is a bit different who has for what ever reason a desire to become the governor of Vermont is willing to put themselves into the public media blender. So we understand that this person is different and we test, not so much the acceptance of their difference but their positions on the issues. And if this is a determined and serious person on the issues and is a serious person in general maybe they can have a shot at the job. We can in time see past their initial difference to their core. And it is not automatic it is based in mutually developed respect. No one can force the issue.

    What the Leftist insists on is that there is no difference between “Normal” and “normal” and they will force the acceptance, no matter what. You and your reasonable but reasonably adjustable biases and beliefs or positions related to “difference” are meaningless to them.

    And that is fundamentally disrespectful and so they must be dealt with in court and made to respect others points of views, because that is reasonable.

  • Cotour

    Government once again becomes the bigot:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/san-antonio-blatantly-violates-the-first-amendment-to-punish-chick-fil-a-for-donating-to-christian-organizations/

    In attempting to be “All inclusive” the government of San Antonio becomes the violators of the civil rights of the public, in this instance the rights of a private company to do business.

  • Cotour

    Ah, the state and its abuse of power:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/pennsylvania/articles/2019-07-19/parents-told-they-could-lose-kids-over-unpaid-school-lunches

    The state will take your children if you do not pay for their lunch. If you do not pay for a program that the state has implemented they will come and take your children.

    How nice.

    Ultimately the powers that be in any state can not help themselves, they will be obeyed, even if they have to destroy your family. Abuse of power, exactly why the Constitution was written.

  • wayne

    Cotour–

    That AP article is filled with a lot of emotion, but is lacking in actual facts to explain the situation at hand.

    Generally (but I can’t speak for Pennsylvania)– you have 3 forms of “school lunch;” the completely free (Federal and/or State funded) version, the reduced-rate version based on Income, and the ‘normal’ pay-the-listed-price version.
    “Free” has to be provided every school-day, for free. Nobody who actually qualifies for the 100% subsidy is at risk for anything.
    Reduced-rate involves paying a token amount based on Income—either every day or in-advance on-account. Lunch programs often ‘extend-credit’ in this situation, the kid is served as normal but the Parent is ultimately responsible for paying their bill.
    Regular pay-the-listed-price, is exactly what it means, but again, schools often extend-credit in this situation but the Parent is ultimately responsible for paying their bill.

    Tangentially– one does not want their State “child-welfare” Department getting involved in their life. Trust me on this.

  • Cotour

    “Tangentially– one does not want their State “child-welfare” Department getting involved in their life. Trust me on this.”

    Exactly, and the state will use their immense power to threaten the individual who has not paid. They will, by their own words. “Take your children from you”.

    Its effective I am sure, they must get paid within days of sending out such a threat, but its also an abuse of power. The books in the end balance, but its an abuse of power just the same. And having everything balance is what its all about.

    The bureaucracy creates the system, with the best intentions of course, its all about the kids. And then when you do not or are unable to “Pay” because you live within this system your kinds will be taken?

    Just seems a bit draconian to me and a bit too much. Effective, but draconian and a too practical. Just one more reason to remain single and childless in America. And I am not proposing that anyone just not pay their fair share, as the people who create all of this like to say.

  • wayne

    Cotour–
    I don’t necessarily disagree with you, it’s just the AP article is very sparse on actual details. “Abuse & Neglect” are well defined crimes, and I doubt the child-welfare people want (or would have blanket standing) to become the collection-agency for the school system.
    –One can stiff the school system for literally forever, —don’t pay your property-taxes however and the Sherriff will come and throw you & your stuff in the street and auction off your house.

    Back to Colorado–
    Masterpiece is obviously being deprived of their Constitutional rights by the State of Colorado

  • Cotour

    Even worse.

    They would dare to use such a threat and not really have the power to enforce it?

    Or they have the power to “drop the dime” on the family and receive a visit from child welfare. And maybe they would find a bad situation here and there, but again, its a bit too much for me.

  • commodude

    Wayne, depends on the state. Abuse and Neglect in many cases are purposefully vague, and can open up issues where none exist.

    For instance, due to a software error, I had a doctor’s office call CPS because I refused to bring the kids in for a checkup related to a script. (I had had the children in for their appointment, the database software had recently changed, and it screwed up their recordkeeping)

    Full blown investigation by the school, CPS and the Sheriff dep. because an overzealous nanny refused to stay in her lane. (and no, you CANNOT sue for filing false charges and harassment, they’re specifically protected by law against those charges in these cases. It’s to protect the children, you know)

  • Cotour

    Like I said, just one more item in the “lets not have kids / I choose to remain single” equation.

    And that is not good for the general public I.E. America. A country that is at the moment being repopulated by people who have no worries about such things and reproduce at a much higher rate then the very day comfortable American who is further and further put upon by financial and societal pressures.

    This in the long game is an expression of the Globalist / Socialist agenda in practice.

    The only real solution is to convert those who are assumed going to vote for the Democrat leadership agenda which is the Globalist / no borders / Socialist agenda into Conservatives who seek to protect what they now have as compared to what they had.

    Flip the script on those who flip the script.

    And Trump is the finest example of that “Flip the script” strategy.

  • wayne

    commodude–
    you’re totally correct in some respects.

    I only did child-protection for 4 months in my career, I felt completely unsafe, as if I had a huge target on my back, and I had a Case-load of 35 children to check on. Nobody ever wanted to see me show up at their homes/apartments and they all were loath to cooperate. (and I mean 100% of them, to a person) I couldn’t find another job fast enough.
    And while there does exist some excellent child-protection case-workers, most of the staff I encountered were either passing-through (with no intention of staying, ever) or were so burned outa their minds, they were just counting the days until they could retire and literally phoning it in on a daily basis.
    –at the time, one of our big concerns were children who were prescribed stimulants for behavior problems, but the kids never tested positive for the drugs they were supposed to be taking. One of my duties was to physically inspect the med bottles, if they let me, which they didn’t ever do.

    missing from the original AP story–
    (The person who wrote that story, doesn’t even know how child-welfare works, and they weren’t going to be bothered with figuring it out. (Fake News by people with Fake narratives and bizzaro-world Agenda’s.)

    “Luzerne County’s manager and child welfare agency director have written the superintendent, insisting the district stop making what they call false claims. Their letter calls the district’s actions troubling and a misrepresentation of how the Children and Youth Services Department and its foster care program operate.”

    This school superintendent, sounds like a tin horned dictator, trying to use a sister-agency to impose his will. (and the lawyer they used– he needs to be slapped down, depending on exactly how they phrased their threats.)
    “Poor people” get free school lunch, period.
    It’s more often the reduced-rate and full-pay folks who try to stiff the school system.

  • commodude

    Wayne, the older child just graduated 33rd in her class and is going to a top tier university next month. The younger just scored well above requirements for a regents diploma.

    The Sheriff’s deputy was embarrassed at having to make the visit, and it was hours wasted by CPS workers on a totally fabricated charge by someone trying to generate revenue for their practice.

    The amount of power these petty bureaucrats have is ridiculous.

    I was completely stymied in attempting to take action against the practice, as the shield laws completely protect someone even making the most slanderous charge because, after all, it’s for the children. This is tyranny, pure and simple, and exists nationwide due to the success of the fascisti.

  • commodude

    edit ,3rd in her class, not 33rd.

  • wayne

    commodude-
    Good deal on your young-adult!

  • commodude

    Yep, pretty proud of her.

    She busted her tail and fought the educational system as much as I did as well as study. Hopefully she keeps the stubborn streak going.

    If all goes well, hard science is getting another hard line skeptic in the ranks.

  • wayne

    commodude–
    Again, good deal!!
    Yepper! –have a daughter who earned a PhD in research-pharmacology. (My late-wife was a working Geologist, so pretty sure that’s where the smart-genes originated.)

    Ref Colorado–
    Holy cow… is everyone taking Mushrooms, or what? Bizzaro-World.

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