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Another reason to dump Google: Google has been issued patents outlining its plans to establish monitors throughout each customer’s home, monitoring movements, moods, activities, and even their children, with the ability to even control behavior.

But there’s even more. According to The Atlantic:

A second patent proposes a smart-home system that would help run the household, using sensors and cameras to restrict kids’ behavior. Parents could program a device to note if it overhears ‘foul language’ from children, scan internet usage for mature or objectionable content, or use ‘occupancy sensors’ to determine if certain areas of the house are accessed while they’re gone— for example, the liquor cabinet. The system could be set to ‘change a smart lighting system color to red and flash the lights’ as a warning to children or even power off lights and devices if they’re grounded.

The language of these patents makes it clear that Google is acutely aware of the powers of inference it has already, even without cameras, by augmenting speakers to recognize the noises you make as you move around the house. The auditory inferences are startling: Google’s smart-home system can infer ‘if a household member is working’ from ‘an audio signature of keyboard clicking, a desk chair moving, and/or papers shuffling.’ Google can make inferences on your mood based on whether it hears raised voices or crying, on when you’re in the kitchen based on the sound of the fridge door opening, on your dental hygiene based on ‘the sounds and/or images of teeth brushing.’

The key aspect of this is that, at least right now, Google cannot force its way into your home unless you agree to let it. That any free American is not sickened by this invasion of privacy and is even considering allowing it into their home illustrates how different a country we are from only a half century ago. In my youth, for any company to publicly consider these actions would have guaranteed its bankruptcy, within weeks. No one would want anything to do with it.

No longer. Too many Americans are now sheep, wedded to their technology to a point of foolishness.

Update: I realized it will help to add that I have managed to eliminate almost all use of Google in my computer work now for more than a decade. For browser searches I use either Startpage or DuckDuckGo. For awhile I was using gmail as a backup email source, in case my main isp went down, but I dumped it about four years ago. With both Google and gmail I then wiped my history so as to reduce the odds of Google retaining it (something I can’t guarantee as Google has already been caught retaining data it does not own).

The only areas I am still using any Google resources is with youtube and Google Maps, and with both I am constantly looking for alternatives. We should all be doing the same. If anything the competition will force Google to reconsider some of its more odious policies.

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  • commodude

    I will not have Alexa, Google, or any other other electronic nannies anywhere within the walls of my home. I’m already almost to the point of putting all cell phones in faraday bags on entry.

  • Cotour

    Combine this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-21/beijing-to-judge-every-resident-based-on-behavior-by-end-of-2020

    With this: https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.YKBYtgsPM3VeNDDa9Ka_JgEsCu&pid=15.1&P=0&w=270&h=158

    Add in some of these over time: https://www.yang2020.com/

    And what do you think you will have in 20 years? China? Venezuela?

    Something that can not even be thought of as of yet? It really is just one generation away.

    Mars may be looking pretty good, ha Wayne?

  • wayne

    commodude-
    Right with you, on that thought!

    Who has seen the adverts for Facebook’s “Portal,” (I think it is)– the creepy 1984 style 2-way viewscreen you put in your home. The only thing Orwell got wrong about those— people voluntarily buy them and they voluntarily pay for the internet connection to which they attach. Why make it easy for THEM? (If you are going to voluntarily allow FB spy on you, they should at least pay for your equipment & internet.)

    [Blast from the Past: At Facebook’s IPO– their filing’s indicated each “user” was valued at between $5-$125/year, It has undoubtedly risen since then.
    When the Product is “free,” You Are the Product.

    Referencing Phones: I still have a land-line* at home and I use a prepaid TracFone when I’m out in the world.

    –In case anyone forgot, the obama-phone Program continues apace; there’s about 25 million people with free cell phones and it costs Taxpayers about $2 billion/year. Straight to Carlos Slim, who has the contract, with no end in sight. (Progressive RINO’s btw, love Obama-phones.)

    (* my monthly Federal phone-taxes are about $17 a month added into my bill. I guess so poor people can have better phones than I do, and for free.)

    “Obama Phone” Remix
    Starring the obama-phone lady
    September 2012
    https://youtu.be/xr201FqTP4w
    2:12
    https://youtu.be/xr201FqTP4w

  • I made a comment on a thread that home-monitoring would be required for ‘safety’. Anyone care to bet against?

  • wayne

    Blair–
    It’s always “for our own good,” isn’t it! (“If we could save just one child….”)

    Tangent– with Cali burning–what’s the air quality like in PDX?

  • Diane Wilson

    I always figured that Google removed “Don’t be evil” from the masthead when they discovered what it meant. My only personal use of any of their products is YouTube, and that only for music, and only occasionally. I have to use gmail and Chrome at work, but only for work-based activities. That’s all.

    Microsoft is the only big tech company that I trust even a little, so it’s Bing for search and maps, Edge browser, OneDrive for cloud, and Outlook for email. I do have an iPhone, but at least it’s Google-free.

    I stay away from subscription-based services as much as possible, but that’s hard. And that’s where a lot of unknown risks are, starting with cellular carriers and banks. I do most of my own hardware and software maintenance, except for my router (Eero).

    Privacy on the net is always iffy, and often an illusion. Delusion?

  • Tim Metcalfe

    Read this in a novel a about a year ago. The Store by James Patterson. Not too far fetched.

  • wayne

    Diane-
    Good stuff.

    Tim-
    Looks interesting!

    Rick and Morty –
    “Rick Fights The Devil”
    https://youtu.be/RUqLVN5Ydtc
    2:20

  • Cotour

    Ocassio / Cortez compares the Honduran’s and Gutamalian’s, complements of the Leftist organizations operating out of South America, storming the U.S. border with the Jews in Germany who were exterminated by the NAZI’s in gas chambers and firing squads and buried in mass graves and incinerated by the millions in purposefully built gas ovens. (I wonder how the Zman feels about that comparison?)

    These Leftist organizations who by the way have been providing millions of dollars in transportation, food, healthcare and water support service to the caravan apparently are based within the United States itself, Chicago to be specific. Hmmm, what prominent politician in American politics who has a Leftist bent also hails from Chicago? It will come to me.

    And this all poses the question: Why are there no actions both overt and covert being applied to these anti American organizations who are intent on subverting Americas sovereignty and social systems to prevent them from doing so?

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/25/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-migrant-holocaust/

    For a freshman who has not even been “Inaugurated” into Congress yet, Ms. Ocassio / Coretez certainly finds herself at the tip of the Socialist / Leftist spear. (And most of us understand that this tip of the spear is certainly not posing all of these “solutions” on her own. She is being handled and she has already been compromised by the Democrat leadership and that is indicated by her 180 degree change in no longer opposing Pelosi for the speakers position, which she was clearly against before. But you must give the devil his due and recognize her rise and public exposure.)

    I have a friend who is a prominent real estate player in New York and in local politics, I told her that I was looking forward to her report after she first meets with Ms. Cortez. Her response. Uhhh.

    And she told me in all fairness that, Joe Crowley was never seen and deserved to lose his seat.

  • commodude

    The utilities in this area also push the NEST thermostats and Ring setups for homes constantly. Will not ever be saddled with a nanny reporting to the internet of things. I’ll likely have to buy a few dumb programmable thermostats to make sure I can get them when the ones I have die, but that’s another item which will never be net enabled.

  • Max

    Wayne Said;
    When the Product is “free,” You Are the Product.
    Have you had your free flu shot/immunization shot?

    It’s funny that they insist that the children stay with the felons sneaking across the border, but as soon as they put them in school, especially in California, they call child services and remove the children from the home because they have not had their immunization shots.
    In France they are rioting over the new carbon tax because the president claims it will save the planet…
    I thought I saw a flying pig… (Gods of the copy book headings)

    The program for everyone’s thermostats voluntarily to be controlled by the power company so they can turn off the AC during peak power usage through the Internet is getting an upgrade. All thermostats will now have a camera and listening device. (Some already do) it is for your own safety, the power company have been made aware that some infirm or elderly cannot last long without their air-conditioning. This way they can call for help.
    They will also be listening for domestic abuse, unfamiliar voices to indicate a break in when you’re not home, improper speaking or yelling at children, (child-abuse) children using improper language … Don’t worry, big brother is not watching you, just everyone else. Be trendy and hurry quick, Alexa only $20 now on Amazon. It can even identify people that shouldn’t be in your yard. Like those with a restraining order.
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/nest-thermostat-security-camera-updates/
    If you already have a smart thermostat, it is very difficult to remove yourself from the arrangement once agreed to. In most cases, the agreement applies even if you move to a new house. Cannot be rescinded. Upgrades cannot be denied. Resistance is futile. Can you see that boot coming down on your face, forever?

  • Diane

    Cotour, her name is pronounced “Occasional Cortex”. Yes, she ran against a weak incumbent and even weaker opposition in the general, and she thought she was anointed to run a revolution in Washington. Watching her come-uppance will continue to be entertaining.

    If only it were so easy to take down the funding behind the caravan. I hope someone is working on that.

  • Cotour

    Diane, very funny, “Occasional cortex”, sharp.

    Talk like this of course is considered racist because she is a woman and a Latina and it will be banned as discriminatory speech in the future and you will be in need of mandatory reprogramming and your social score will be diminished and you will not be able to travel out of your district or use the internet until your reprogramming is complete.

    And if that does not work, well you know what comes after that.

    And we are only half kidding about these things, these people and how they have been taught to think and justify such things is all too real, they mean business. Power and “equality” at any cost.

  • Diane

    I can’t take credit for that. Occasional Cortex has been going around the conservative blogosphere, along with Ocassio Fiasco, and the New Socialist “IT” Girl.

    As a known Deplorable-American, I am beyond reprogramming, and will no doubt be rounded up when the eschaton is immanentized.

    Orwell said it best. All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

  • Cotour

    Max:

    You mentioned immunization, I saw this story today and heard a radio discussion about it, 1 in 40 children are now autistic to some degree? I think I remember that it used to be 1 in 5000 before the sixties for children or some other very contrasting number. ????

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/health/autism-prevalence-study/index.html

    http://naturalsociety.com/autism-rates-vaccines-increase-simultaneously/

    While the medical industry insists that vaccinations have absolutely no correlation to autism, time, numbers and dollars seem to dispute that. Pretty soon will it be one out of every two children are autistic at this rate? And there seems to be a correlation between the relieving the public of being able to sue the producers of vaccines and the dollar amounts of doses sold to the tune of I think it was $60 billion dollars sold.

    https://safeminds.org/vaccines-and-autism/correlation-between-increases-in-autism-prevalence-and-introduction-of-new-vaccines/

    Now that is scary, what do you do if you have a child today and you are suspect of all of this? Flip a coin?

  • Diane

    Being cold-heartedly actuarial, balance possible links to autism with the absolute certainty that cutting back vaccination will bring back childhood diseases that are almost unknown these days, except in communities where people are already refusing vaccines. Polio, scarlet fever, measles, rubella, whooping cough, chicken pox, mumps, and I have no idea what else is covered by vaccine these days. Fortunately, we have liberal communities such as Malibu already setting this example for us.

    Further, consider “improved diagnosis” of autism, as well as “improved” data collection. Autism is now considered a “spectrum,” and milder cases now included as Asperger’s Syndrome would once have been lumped in with learning-disabled, unsocial, “difficult,” whatever.

    Four kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, statistics, and medical studies.

  • Diane: As I like to say, the coming dark age.

  • @ Wayne:

    Don’t get a lot of smoke from CA; do get pollution from China in the Summer.

    When ‘smart’ appliances came out I told people I wouldn’t have them in the house. Laughter about ‘tin foil hats’. Not much laughing, now.

  • Cotour

    How do you sleep today if you are a parent?

    And then a school system / local government will make a rule that all children must have these many inoculations or they can not attend school. At what point do you weigh your child acquiring potential disease against permanent brain inflammation and brain damage? Information? Disinformation?

    I know many familys with at least one child with autism to some degree, minor to severe. It never was like that when I was a kid. And I remember getting the round multi needled shot in the arm in the 3rd or 4th (?) grade. Is there a correlation between the number of inoculations over the years increasing and this condition? Seems a reasonable question.

    This seems a national security issue to me, at some point just like social security you will have more mentally incompetent dependents than competent contributors.

    Then what?

  • wodun

    The key aspect of this is that, at least right now, Google cannot force its way into your home unless you agree to let it.

    Except that they have access to data they didn’t gather. Sure, it isn’t as invasive as having a camera and microphone in your home but Google, and other companies in the data business, have more information on us that we know.

  • commodude

    Cotour, the link between autism and vaccines is the product of a very badly run and now retracted article in a medical journal.

    As mentioned above, it isn’t one disorder, it’s a number of issues placed in the basket of “autism spectrum disorder”. In addition, with schools getting more money based on the number of diagnosed students, it’s in the schools’ interest to boost the number of autistic students they serve.

    I sleep fine, vaccines are the least of my worries. The pathetic attempts at indoctrination disturb me more than the other issues inherent in the public school system at present. If you want to improve education, eliminate any and all ties to the Zinn foundation, eliminate the farce that is common core, and eliminate tenure for public school teachers.

  • wayne

    commodude–
    Good stuff.

    Cotour–
    I have to agree with commodude on vaccines.

    Back when ADHD & ADD were called Minimal Brain Dysfunction, nobody wanted that diagnosis.
    It’s similar for the (relatively) newly invented autism spectrum.

  • Max

    From cotour’s link above:
    “Heidi asserted the enlarged brains were swollen from inflammation, which is what vaccines can and do cause. Therefore, this study inadvertently supports the vaccine-autism connection”

    Vaccinations in children are associated with fevers that are sometimes severe. I myself took my daughter to the hospital on two occasions (following what we thought was a mandatory vaccination before attending grade school) with her night fevers over 104°. She was given a 50-50 chance of brain damage, scariest and most helpless moment of my life, but she turned out fine.
    My older daughter begin bleeding from her kidneys for no reason, test showed that she was rejecting her kidneys (after her shots) and after 20 years she just recently stopped taking her medication. The Dr. declaring her recovered. She did not need a kidney transplant after all.
    So I am biased based on personal experience, not to mention I have never been vaccinated for anything but tetanus in my entire life. Yes I do get sick, but out of the thousands of people I work with, I am the only one who’s only missed one day of work in 20 years… I have B type blood which means I lack the antigen in my blood that most people have, I do not make normal antibodies for viruses.

    There has never been a double-blind study performed on Immunizations. Or the flu shot for that matter. You can get a flu shot on every corner in America but in Europe you have to ask For one. So when we compare our shots to the ones they receive, we discovered that they have different problems then we have and not near the autism rate. Socialized medicine can be expensive, they try to avoid making their population sick.
    I will attempt to give the cause-and-effect in as brief words as possible.
    Foreign bodies and proteins introduced into the bloodstream will create antibodies, (that’s why anti-rejection drugs are given to transplant patients) Foreign bodies in an immunization shot are placed there on purpose to build antibodies against the disease, unfortunately the side effect is the viruses and infection components still find their way to the receptor sites in the brain and tissues where it causes inflammation even though the disease cannot reproduce. The antibodies begin rejecting the tissue in which the foreign body is attached creating autism in the developing brain. Children, who could walk and talk and smile and laugh, will begin to regress. Their brain ceases to develop normally.
    The only known cure, if caught early enough, is anti-inflammatory drugs particularly AZT developed for AIDS patients.
    Suppressing the immune system for long enough so the body either capsulate or absorbs the disease to the point where the body no longer rejects its self.
    It is also helpful to wait until the child is older/more developed so that its body can do better when getting shots. (newborn babies do not have a developed immune system and largely do not react to its shots)
    To learn more, there are thousands of people on social media who have chat groups to discuss their children’s autism/autistic troubles and how to handle them. They have a common theme throughout them all and I don’t need to tell you what that is.

    WHY? It is a $60 billion industry. Even Goldman Sachs will no longer fund the “search for cures” because curing people is bad investment with little return for your money.

    I think it was 2004 when health inspectors shut down Chiron? for failure of three inspections in a row where they make flu vaccine because of bad quality control. flu vaccinations we’re not available for most people that year. They say we were lucky, I say it is not a coincidence that it was the lowest flu season on record.
    The flu manufacture reopened in another country were health inspections are not preformed.

    Meanwhile, I see Facebook executive has been arrested by parliament when he ignored their summons. They took his papers as evidence. Apparently it is proof that Facebook was helping the Russians in 2016 elections, Zuckerberg lied to Congress!

  • Max

    Follow up references,

    Will Facebook be held responsible? Documents taken by parliament.
    https://boingboing.net/2018/11/25/by-any-means-necessary.html

    Blair Ivey;
    Keep that tinfoil hat handy, 5G will be released soon. Much faster download speed’s at the price of more towers with higher power to compensate for shorter range.
    https://youtu.be/ah8Bpg6ep1k
    Perhaps Faraday cages woven into the clothing will be fashionable… I wonder if the Broadcast power will be enough to recharge devices and electric cars? Teslas dream.

    Found a article from 2004 flu shot shortage. My memory was mostly right.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/health/with-few-suppliers-of-flu-shots-shortage-was-long-in-making.html
    And
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17708169/ns/health-cold_and_flu/t/million-doses-flu-shot-be-thrown-away/
    A bacterial contamination was in the flu shot. When injected in the bloodstream it mimics the flu but only a antibiotic could make you better. Because of this, antibiotics became common prescription for a cold.
    Goldman Sachs says sick people is good for business.
    https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/goldman-sachs-warns-biotech-clients-that-curing-patients-may-not-be-sustainable-041318.html
    Which gives a strong motive for the investment banking industry and pharmaceutical stock holders to stop this man from doing his job for Trump.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/daniel-best-suicide-foul-play/
    How does a man, at 5:25 in the morning, suddenly without any indications, decide to beat himself to death committing suicide without a weapon? Still no details or even an attempt to rationalize or back story given. Another Vince Foster urban legend in the making.
    Somebody’s response to the announcement Trump made of reducing drug prices? Message sent and received.

    Wayne;
    Something special for you and all those scientists with nuclear/medical backgrounds. My mother’s cousin was a whistle blower before the Internet age. (I knew skepticism ran in the family, critical thinking that created a family of engineers)
    https://www.nsearchnews.com/The-Nuclear-Hoax-Galen-Windsor.html
    I wish I could have met him, one hour and 10 minutes long but I couldn’t stop watching after he started eating radium! Licking it off his hand and holding the geiger counter up to his tongue to prove that it was hot before swallowing. I love the way his arguments use logic and cause-and-effect… It’s hard to argue with demonstrated science. He talks details of plutonium accidents that I have not heard before. It freaks me out that he was carrying plutonium for his demonstration.

  • wayne

    Max–
    you have a lot to discuss.

    I’ll confine my reply to the Salk polio vaccine:
    Salk initially vaccinated himself and his own children, before official trials began.
    National trials began in March of 1954 and involved 1.8 million children and it was a double-blind design. (Salk himself opposed a double-blind study, as he was totally convinced his vaccine would work and felt that depriving people of the immediate benefit’s would be unethical.)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1114166/

    “The polio vaccine field trials of 1954, sponsored by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis (March of Dimes), are among the largest and most publicised clinical trials ever undertaken. Across the United States, 623 972 schoolchildren were injected with vaccine or placebo, and more than a million others participated as “observed” controls. The results, announced in 1955, showed good statistical evidence that Jonas Salk’s killed virus preparation was 80-90% effective in preventing paralytic poliomyelitis.1

    The statistical design used in this great experiment was singular, prompting criticism at the time and since. Eighty four test areas in 11 states used the textbook model: in a randomized, blinded design all participating children in the first three grades of school (ages 6-9) received injections of either vaccine or placebo and were observed for evidence of the disease. But 127 test areas in 33 states used an “observed control” design: participating children in the second grade (ages 7-8) received injections of vaccine; no placebo was given, and children in all three grades were then observed for the duration of the polio “season.”1

    The use of the dual protocol illustrates both the power and the limitations of the randomized clinical trial to legitimate therapeutic claims. The placebo controlled trials were necessary to define the Salk vaccine—introduced by a lay organisation that has taken an activist position against the counsel of its virologic advisers—as the product of scientific medicine. The observed control trials were essential to maintaining public support for the vaccine as the product of lay faith and investment in science. Here I examine the process by which the trial design was negotiated and the roles of the several actors.”
    (continues)

  • Cotour

    Max:

    You bring out my point perfectly, with all of the conflicting “science” bouncing around how does a parent confidently make a decision about what is best for their child? Information? Disinformation?

    And then the government demands compliance for that child.

    Its not good.

  • Cotour

    And if you believe as gospel any authoritative thing that comes from any government agency then you will also be believers in the following:

    1. “The air is safe to breath at ground zero”. 2. Oswald alone shot JFK (Remember, Jackie Kennedy crawled onto the back trunk of the limo to retrieve JFK’s brains and did not crawl into the front of the limo to do so. Oswald must have been shooting some crazy new super future alien technology ammo to make that happen shooting from above and behind the president). 3. The Tuskegee experiment.

    I will stop with just these three totally unconnected examples of government guidance to the public.

    Personal decisions must be made with the best information available and determining that can be daunting.

  • Max

    Thanx Cotour, remember that I am biased.

    Wayne’s comment is main stream in its influence/acceptance and did much to change the world. Unfortunately the new polio it’s not getting that same attention along with 100 other diseases for which there is no vaccination available and are currently on the rise everywhere.
    There are reasons to look at both sides of the argument, for example;
    My daughter who had night sweats for years, is now a registered nurse (RN) and one of her duties is to give the recommended shots to newborn babies unless the parents sign a waiver telling them absolutely not. (it is her job) In most cases, they do it without even asking. It is hospital policy. (they know what is best for you. It is also hospital policy to have drinks with only artificial sugar in them, it’s infuriating)
    It is also her job to take the blood samples from umbilical cord for testing that all newborns routinely get. One sample stays with the birth certificate to be delivered to vital statistics. (The government has been collecting DNA samples at birth for the last 30 years)
    There are some shots they no longer give because it was linked to SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome) Other shots like hepatitis C are still given just in case the baby decides to do intervenous drugs or have unprotected anal sex. The babies immune system is under developed so the shots Don’t do much good at producing antibodies. This is why the mothers milk is so important especially in getting zinc from the mother.

    Common dudes comments are correct, very practical/rational as well as in agreement with most people.

    Diane said;
    “Being cold-heartedly actuarial, balance possible links to autism with the absolute certainty that cutting back vaccination will bring back childhood diseases that are almost unknown these days, except in communities where people are already refusing vaccines. Polio, scarlet fever, measles, rubella, whooping cough, chicken pox, mumps, and I have no idea what else is covered by vaccine these days.”
    Dane have illustrated a perfect example of a scare tactic that they currently use to keep us in line… And I must confess it is valid. Much like Wayne’s polio example. Except for the Malibu statement, diseases in southern California to San Francisco are on the rise due to unsanitary conditions. Apparently the diseases that are spreading changes with every host, the new strains, people thought they were vaccinated against, are infecting everyone.

    From a new article I looked up.
    “As of 2016 there were 110 genetically distinct enteroviruses that infect humans.[10]

    There will never be a 110-in-1 shot that inoculates against all enteroviruses. Modern medicine is so overcommitted to vaccines as its sole armament against infectious disease it can’t even concede the medical literature points in a clear but intentionally overlooked direction: nutrition.”

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/11/bill-sardi/why-are-public-health-officials-playing-dumb-over-the-alarming-rise-of-paralyzing-polio-like-infections-in-american-children-this-year/

    Interesting article that nutrition deficiencies due to herbicides/insecticides & round up is causing immune systems to be so low that immunization shots become useless.
    Round up has a band substance hidden in it’s ingredients, arsenic which strips zinc from the body. Critical to immune function.
    I also learned that round up is not only used on all grains to ripen them for harvest (to desiccate and dry the grain by killing the plant) it is also used to facilitate the ripening of sugar cane for the same reason. Now I can tell people that sugar is killing them… Literally. If an animal is poisoned to death, would you eat it? Why are Monsanto killed plants any different?
    Oh no, speaking of sugar, I just heard a insulin pump is being recalled because it’s killed 9 thousand people, apparently it has never been tested on humans… I wonder how it got approved to be implanted in the first place? Because the subject is the Internet of things, the device was probably hacked or its programming was corrupted during an update.

  • Cotour

    Related:

    https://prepforthat.com/5g-health-risks/

    This is an anecdotal story: For the last 5 or so years I have had my internet equipment in front of me on a shelf next to my monitor 1.5 feet away from me at shoulder level to the left of the monitor. It was convenient to turn on in the morning.

    About two years ago I began to have pressure in my head on the left side when I sneezed. As it over time got a bit worse to the point that I began to become concerned (Im thinking: Brain tumor? aneurysm?) I tried to figure out what was going on. One of the things that I did, besides nasal cleanses because I though it might be a nasal infection of some kind, was to realize where my internet equipment was and to move it at least 6 feet away and put a shield around it.

    Slowly my condition has gotten better, not 100 percent but much better. ??????

    I suppose I will be building a Faraday shielded cabinet or room to install my 5G equipment.

  • wayne

    Max–
    No time to address any of this in depth.
    My daughter & son-in-law both work in drug-discovery for a ‘top 5’ pharmaceutical company. If anything, we have a shortage of research on vaccines and very few producers.

    Gots-to-go.

  • Ruth

    Can I ask what you use for email? I’m assuming you use it, of course. I have google and am deeply unhappy with it after the last improvement, but haven’t found a better substitute.

  • Ruth: I used to use Eudora as my email program, but for technical reasons too boring to explain here was forced three years ago to switch to Thunderbird. If you have a choice and can make Eudora work, I would recommend it highly.

    The key issue here however is strategy, and how I get my email. Gmail is a web-based email program. It operates using your browser and google’s software. All emails are stored by google on their hard-drives. This allows google to read all your correspondence, whenever they wish.

    I instead use the email service provided by my ISP, the company that provides me internet access, but use Thunderbird to immediately download the emails from their hard-drives and then delete it. Thus, my correspondence is only in my possession. This isn’t perfect, but it tends to protect my privacy more.

  • Cotour

    Dum, di, dum, dum.

    https://newspunch.com/pro-vaccine-senator-dies-after-flu-shot/

    NY Senator dies of a flu shot after promoting flu shots.

    You just never know.

  • Max

    Cotour;

    Hoisted up on his own petard, poetic justice for the elite to succumb to a fate of their own making. It’s unfortunate that he was so young. But then when I do a search I find there’s a lot of deaths after receiving shots.
    https://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas-woman-says-flu-shot-sent-husband-to-the-icu
    I see a few children dying recently after their shots, also sad.
    When someone dies at work we will pitch in money to help out The family. Two recent deaths was from the flu. The company used to promote flu shots on every shift by having the health workers available. Now we must go down to the clinic if we want flushots because so many people would be sick at the same time it was severely hurting the bottom line.

    Wayne;
    Ask your kids their opinion of the way China is tackling diseases by modifying children.
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/11/28/671375070/facing-backlash-chinese-scientist-defends-gene-editing-research-on-babies
    Modify babies in Vitro to be resistant to disease. In this case AIDS. Gattaca is becoming reality.

  • wayne

    Max–
    (We will eventually, be forced to annihilate sufficient numbers of the chi-com ruling elite, to end their slave state control over their population, and their existential threat to the entire globe. It will be incredibly messy and infinitely tragic, but absolutely necessary, and it will be over in 30-45 minutes, once and forever.)

    Minuteman III launch animation
    https://youtu.be/S-V6MZlyCqE
    2:22
    {“The power of the sun, in the palm of your hands.”}

    –Sent my daughter to Hillsdale College for a well rounded classical-liberal education, then she earned her PhD in pharmacology research at a State university. My son-in-law went to Rensselaer Polytechnic and met my daughter finishing up his PhD in chemical engineering.

    -I’m not a blind apologist for (so called) “big pharma,” but I am a firm believer in Better Living Through Chemistry. (But I personally draw the line at ‘designer-baby’s, and I know they do as well.)

    Fully granted there are side FX’s to vaccines, but the incidence is less than you find taking any number of cholesterol, high blood pressure, and/or “lifestyle” meds on a daily basis, over decades.

    Referencing the Flu–I’d point you to the Pandemic of 1918:

    “The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet’s population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans. The 1918 flu was first observed in Europe, the United States and parts of Asia before swiftly spreading around the world. At the time, there were no effective drugs or vaccines to treat this killer flu strain. Citizens were ordered to wear masks, schools, theaters and businesses were shuttered and bodies piled up in makeshift morgues before the virus ended its deadly global march. ”

    –The modern death-rate from the flu is roughly 0.1%, primarily due to improvements in hygiene, vaccines, and anti-viral medications.
    –Everything has side FX’s. Aspirin for example, would not be approved by the FDA for sale in the USA if it was invented today.

    –However, that is not to discount the very real adverse effects that some people experience due to vaccinations. I have a friend a little older than I, who participated in the original polio-trials, and has permanent paralysis of her eye-lids and some facial muscles, but she’s infinitely happy that she wasn’t stuffed into an iron lung.

  • wayne

    ST: Deep Space 9 –
    In the Pale Moonlight
    “That’s why you came to me, isn’t it Captain!?”
    https://youtu.be/StF9jrhw-pU
    4:36

  • commodude

    Cotour, he didn’t die form the flu shot, he died 2 weeks after getting a flu shot from an unannounced illness. That headline is sloppy as hell and just plays into conspiracy theories. It’s clickbait and bad writing, not proof of causation.

  • Cotour

    To my original point: How do parents wade through the information that is available to know whats best for their children? Information? Disinformation?

    “José Peralta was taken to Elmhurst Hospital Center in Queens, NY after becoming disoriented following a two-week illness, which he said began after receiving the flu shot.”

    I agree that there can be a wide difference between “Click bait” headlines and the actual content of a story, I see it all the time.

    This is not really the worst that I have read.

  • Cotour

    An interesting testimony by a former hospital worker.

    https://youtu.be/nWzmqe5bwf8

    The poor woman actually looks very much like ma Barker herself.

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