More conflict on India-Pakistan Kashmir border


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Gunfire this weekend from soldiers on both sides of the disputed India-Pakistan Kashmir border has resulted in more casualties.

Pakistan’s military said two of its soldiers were killed in an exchange of fire with Indian forces near the Line of Control that separates Kashmir between the rivals. It marked the first fatalities for Pakistani troops since Wednesday, when tensions dramatically escalated between the nuclear-armed countries over Kashmir, which is split between them but claimed by both in its entirety.

Indian police, meanwhile, said two siblings and their mother were killed in Indian-controlled Kashmir. The three died after a shell fired by Pakistani soldiers hit their home in the Poonch region near the Line of Control. The children’s father was critically wounded.

There appears to be an effort by politicians to ease the tensions, but it is not clear whether this effort is working.

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  • Cotour

    “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

    ― Albert Einstein

  • commodude

    It’s actually odd to me that this is getting any coverage in the press. This border has been a point of contention since the formation of Pakistan, and has been a source of active conflict ever since.

    Both nations have nuclear weapons, and both know the cost off escalation.

    I’m not saying nuclear warfare WON’T happen, but the timing of the active coverage in the US media is suspect. India’s MIGs have had a lousy service record, and have a record of crashes, so the loss of a sole MIG isn’t’ that big a deal.

    If the Pak ISI is losing their thumb on the insurgents they’ve spawned, that is troubling, as they’re the source of at least some of the Afghan insurgent activity as well as in India.

  • commodude: I have been following the situation at the Kashmir border for years. While the dispute has never been settled, things have been very quiet there for several decades, until the past year. This is getting coverage because of the increase in conflict.

  • commodude

    Robert,

    I attribute it more than anything to the dumbing down of the press as a whole.

    The media hasn’t given it much attention, and what attention it HAS been given has had all the depth of a mudpuddle in my driveway.

    Part of me is saying “oh no, here we go again”, and part of me is screaming at the press asking why they aren’t covering it.

  • wayne

    Kashmir chords
    Jimmy Page, Jack White, & Edge
    https://youtu.be/ODidAgdL40Y
    3:48

  • wayne

    (learn to quit worrying, and love the Bomb.)

    The Indian’s need to raise the ambient air-pressure over Pakistan, to 6psi with a full scale decapitation strike. It will be over in less than 30 minutes.

    Pakistani vs India
    Ballistic and Cruise Missiles Comparison
    https://youtu.be/IStOFllsFDk
    7:06

  • Dick Eagleson

    Should the Indians decide to put Pakistan down for good, I hope they pay particular attention to the tribal territories. Completely sterilizing that pesthole ought to be a top priority, second only to scragging Pakistan’s nukes before they can be used.

  • Chris

    “Why can’t Saudi Arabia or others have Nuclear weapons, the US has them?”
    This type of conflict is exactly why.
    …Let alone allowing types like Iran or the NORKS to have them.

  • wayne

    Tom Lehrer –
    “Who’s Next”
    – with intro-
    September 11th 1967/ Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation
    [Ampex Quadruplex PAL 4:3 recording]
    https://youtu.be/oRLON3ddZIw
    2:36

  • wayne

    Tom Lehrer –
    “The MLF Lullaby”
    9-11-67
    https://youtu.be/3j20voPS0gI
    2:55

  • Cotour

    “Why can’t Saudi Arabia or others have Nuclear weapons, the US has them?”

    If you have the power and authority to deny any of your enemies or friends something that you judge to be too dangerous, then you do it. The question itself assumes a false equivalency.

    There is no equality here there is only applied power, without apology.

    This is similar to SJW’s and the insanely politically correct Leftists and some Libertarian types who propose that the American people allow the Left through their suicidal Leftist anti American / Marxist logic to destroy and eviscerate our own Constitution, using it against itself, and turn our country over to the much more qualified U.N. / Global community to define and say what America is and is not. I.E. global Communism.

  • wayne

    Star Trek: The Warship Voyager
    (the alternate evil captain Janeway)
    https://youtu.be/TWfSvBGtYYI
    3:23

    “When diplomacy fails, there’s only one alternative, violence. Force must be applied without apology. It’s the Starfleet way.”

  • Foxbat

    On the other hand …. maybe each side having nukes will prevent a war ????

  • Col Beausabre

    Godwin’s Corollary

  • wayne

    Sisko and the Maquis
    (from “For the Uniform”)
    https://youtu.be/XGcAbI-4_io
    4:49

  • wayne

    Foxbat-
    That’s actually a very deep and complex question. I’d refer you to any number of RAND reports concerning game-theory, deterrence, and ‘controlling nuclear weapons,’ circa 1950’s/60’s. (At one time, they had a link at their website to their “historical” studies.)
    –Depends if one side or the other is willing to commit suicide to destroy the other, without direct provocation, and to what degree they actually value their people & their stuff. (crudely stated)
    (tangentially– we need to be especially worried about anyone with inter-continental range weapons.)

  • wayne

    Foxbat:

    “Classic RAND Titles”
    https://www.rand.org/pubs/classics.html

    Everything you wanted to know about nuclear cold-war thinking of the day.

    (includes some great stuff on space as well. The “Planets for Man” with Asimov is an interesting read.)

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