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Tampering and serious discrepancies found in Arizona election audit

The audit of the more than two million votes cast in Maricopa County, Arizona, in November 2020 is not yet complete, but auditors in the past week have revealed that they have already uncovered significant evidence of tampering and major discrepancies that throw great doubt on the victory given to Joe Biden.

First, the auditors forced the county election board to admit that the voting machines were not protected by a password at the administrative level, thus allowing anyone to change anything on every machine, during the vote count.

That doesn’t prove fraud or election tampering, it only proves that it was amazingly easy for it to happen.

Second, it appears from further work that something very fishy was going on. The auditors for example have discovered that Maricopa County officials illegally tampered with the voter database records before turning them over to the auditors, including the deletion of an entire database.

State Senate President Karen Fann wrote a letter to Jack Sellers, the chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, demanding an explanation as to why the databases were deleted.

“We have recently discovered that the entire “Database” directory from the D drive of the machine “EMSPrimary” has been deleted,” Fann wrote. “This removes election related details that appear to have been covered by the subpoena. In addition, the main database for the Election Management System (EMS) Software, “Results Tally and Reporting,” is not located anywhere on the EMSPrimary machine, even though all of the EMS Clients reference that machine as the location of the database. This suggests that the main database for all election related data for the November 2020 General Election has been removed. Can you please advise as to why these folders were deleted, and whether there are any backups that may contain the deleted folders?”

Third, the auditors are finding significant and large discrepancies between the number of actual ballots found in storage boxes delivered by Marviicopa county and the batch reports for each box.

The auditors have been reporting 5-15 percent discrepancies across many boxes, with the number consistently growing. Joe Biden supposedly won the county by only 2.2 percent, according to the official results.

Political strategist Boris Epshteyn said on an appearance on Steve Bannon’s War Room show that the discrepancies may actually be as high as 17.5 percent — making it likely that “Biden did not win Arizona.”

The National File reports that the “Arizona Senate President recently sent a letter to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, outlining the major issues discovered already in the audit, and offering to settle them without additional subpoenas or compulsory action. In the letter, says Epshteyn on Steve Bannon’s podcast, it reveals, ‘Pallet five, batch 2976, 200 pink slip total, actual total 165. They are missing 35 ballots out of that batch.’ He added, ’35 out of 100 is 17.5%. 10 out of 200 is 5%.’”

“Do you know how shocking that is? 17.5% discrepancy in a batch is beyond belief.” He added, “In one they’ve got 18 more than there’s supposed to be, which is a 9% discrepancy. Again, if we are to have any confidence in elections in this country, how can we possibly be okay with discrepancies of double digit percentages? It’s absolutely mind boggling, anything above a tiny fraction of a percentage is unacceptable, by the way, unacceptable according to the Federal Elections Commission.”

The resistance to this audit by Maricopa county officials as well as by the Democratic Party has suggested all along that they knew something was wrong with the count. The data obtained so far is reinforcing that suspicion.

The total results are not yet in. It could still be that they will find that, despite these issues, the result remains unchanged. This possibility is becoming increasingly unlikely, however. As Epshteyn said above, it surely now looks like “Biden did not win Arizona.” It also looks likely that similar audits must be done in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.

Proving the election was stolen will not change who is president now, but it will provide the political will to finally tighten the voting rules so that such fraud will be much more difficult come the next election.

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  • Noah Peal

    Pity the republic

  • The compromises in the election processes – junk-mail voting, hasty changes in election rules, and irregular activity in counting the votes; perpetrated by judges, governors and other unauthorized parties in haste in a crisis-not-to-waste – tainted the election as much as bad police procedure taints courtroom evidence that leads to its exclusion … and the government, as opposed to its individual operatives, does not qualify for the presumption of innocence.

    The compromises are all the evidence that is needed, that this election can’t be trusted and should have been sent to the House per the Constitution to vote in a President, not merely certify a compromised election. Of course, that would have led to Trump winning a second term, and they couldn’t validate 75 million deplorable people like that.

    And it is reinforced by the courts ducking their duty to adjudicate the process on technicalities.

    It is the job of government to prove that this election was on the up-and-up. And “because we say so” is not sufficient.

  • wayne

    “As honest as the day is long…”
    Casablanca (1942)

  • Milt

    If, as Robert suggests, it can be verified that there was “significant evidence of tampering and major discrepancies that throw great doubt on the victory given to Joe Biden [in Arizona],” then what, exactly, can anyone do with this information?

    Under present circumstances, there appears to be no existing legal mechanism* whereby anything might be “done” about this such as somehow nullifying the result. (And can anyone imagine that the Biden Justice Department might look into this matter? Oh, right.
    They’ll get to it just as soon as they finish investigating Hunter Biden’s involvement with foreign governments…) Moreover, unless some court should want to become involved, there is no chance at all for any sort of legally binding remedy. And thus far — with the exception of green-lighting the investigation of the election itself — there has been no indication that any court in this country (and least of all the Supreme Court) has the slightest interest in stirring into this political mine field. God, no.

    *Can the Arizona legislature decertify the election results? And, if so, what practical effect on the national election would this have?

    Likewise, even if literal smoking gun evidence of election fraud should be forthcoming in this investigation, the presstitute media in this country will continue to assert that it is all just fake news, just like Rep. Cheney has become famous for doing. Move along, nothing to see here. Wear your masks and obey.

    Yes, the election in Arizona may have been “stolen,” but what can be done in the way of a remedy, especially when (1) our judicial system will almost certainly take no action, and (2) the majority of the national media and some significant portion of the citizenry in this country will *never* believe that it happened despite (cf, Carl Sagan) the support of “extraordinary evidence” that it did? So, even with conclusive “proof” of election fraud, what can be done with this information other than to make one side even more cynical and angry than it already is and the other side even more convinced that facts (that don’t support their ideological narrative) simply don’t matter?

    Probably nothing. But what does this portend for the country?

  • Milt: Reread the last sentence in my essay. It will tell you what will happen if the election proves stolen. The political clout will shift to the Republican legislatures in these states to tighten the election systems, which in turn will guarantee the true winners will win. And since it will also prove that the Democrats don’t have the support they claim they have, they will lose badly.

  • wayne

    Nothing can be done to ‘undo’ the current state of affairs. That ship sailed when the State certified the election and transmitted the results to Congress.

    on the other hand, in the Alternate Universe….

    Gangs of New York (2002)
    Bill the Butcher & Walter McGinn

  • Jeff Wright

    I don’t know if you guys have heard this-but right down there with ‘no amendment is absolute’ is the latest sunburst from the usurper-on how the fully vaxxed have “earned the right” to not wear a mask….and have a normal life.

  • Nolan Parker

    Let’s see,, how do I explain it…

    The framers never wrote

    If someone commits fraud and steals an election and it can be proven
    They don’t get to keep pretending they won
    Any more than the embezzled gets to keep pretending he earned that money and it’s his.
    The mechanism for repairing the injustice exists.. Trust me.

  • nbpundit

    There should be a public listing of every person involved in the questionable handling of this election. The voters should be able to face directly those are in need of answering very important questions. If the government, including our impaired justice system cannot do their designated job, we the people will gladly take the reins and do it for them.

  • Rick Caird

    I would like to go back to what happens if it is shown Biden/Harris did not win. Sure, there is no process for changing the result, but Biden/Harris would be crippled beyond repair, They will be unable to get anything through the government. The people who are appointed to cabinet positions will be crippled. The government will be all but shut down. There will be no way to give the government legitimacy until 2024 and there is no way Democrats will not be held responsible for the fraud. In fact, I expect the Democrat party will go away and at least one or maybe more parties will be created. This election will take on the same aura as 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.

  • Todd Zickefoose

    Even if all the audits are undertaken and Trump was proven to actually have won all 50 states, it will not matter. The election was decided when Republicans in Congress chose to abdicate their responsibility and not to contest the election, and instead certified the votes, end of story. Biden is President.

    — and that fact fills me with an unbelievable amount of rage and disgust. The Repubs are totally complicit in the coup.

  • Richard M

    “The mechanism for repairing the injustice exists.. Trust me.”

    What — with guns?

  • Bob

    “Nothing can be done to ‘undo’ the current state of affairs. That ship sailed when the State certified the election and transmitted the results to Congress.”

    And that, in a nutshell, is why they executed The Steal. The Marxists had already paid off six Secretary of States and knew they could run out the clock. Whenever the Democrats stole an election in the past, the Republicans took action and told them to “steal it back”. Now, they cower and cry “but, if we do this, they will do the same thing”.

  • Frank Byrne

    We used to call something like this closing the barn door after the cows got out. As I keep reminding my legislators here in Wisconsin, all the sunshine in the world won’t disinfect corrupt ballot counting unless the insects who actually did it are exposed, charged, convicted, and punished. There is no better way to instill integrity into the process than to make the consequences of fraud excruciatingly painful., at least one year in prison per spoiled vote would be a good starting point.

  • Prickly Pete Salmonella

    I suggest the first step upon a proven stolen election would be to have the population remove the fences surrounding the capital and then ask the illegal administration to step down. What happens after that is up to them.

  • Milt

    On reflection, I think that Rick may have the right perspective on this. Even lacking any legal remedies, clear evidence of fraud — a least in the minds of a majority of Americans — would indeed cast such a cloud on the Biden Administration that it would probably be crippled in much the fashion that he describes. Likewise, the refusal of the mainstream media to acknowledge this evidence might be the final nail in their credibility as well.

    Meanwhile, as Robert suggests, those state legislatures that are so inclined can at least work to tighten their present election laws. (And, would it be too much to ask for most Americans to look at the central role of elections in our system of governance and to ponder what kind of an election “process” they really want to have so that our country may be preserved?) My questions were not so much to suggest that “nothing” can be done as to ask what — given our limitations — *can* be done?

    PS — Here in Florida, we are looking more and more like a sort of contemporary Byzantium. While Washington (Rome) may have fallen, we have declined to fall with it, and we are doing our part to keep Western Civilization and the Founders’ vision of limited, representative government alive.

  • Cotour

    What is the natural extension and offering to the American people of what the Left and the Democrat party propose as a justice, law enforcement and election system should they prevail in the long term?

    The Left / The Socialists / The Marxists / the followers of the organization Black Lives Matter / Hollywood / Communist China and the Democrat party leaderships plans for the future of America? They have no plan, and that is why in the end they will fail miserably and they will have done themselves, and the country great harm. And they will pay a high price.

    The people of America, the political audience, is watching and will comment on the performance of the political players in the Political Realm theatre production of “America” that they have hired. And it will be the evidence that is properly compiled and revealed through due diligence and our existing legal and justice system in do time that will indicate the future of America..

    The Constitution gives everyone enough rope plus more to rationally and reasonably and freely live within the reach of. The choice is yours to make if you chose to venture beyond its full extension after understanding its true and proper length. The Constitution gives you / us all the rope you need to hang yourself if you so choose.

    And that is exactly where the Democrat leadership and their minions through the desperation of their bankrupt philosophies and need for absolute power have placed themselves. Right at the end of that full extension. (This is what the Constitution structures)

    This is our system, this is our process, as dark and chaotic as it appears in the short term.

    Down the road something of consequence approaches, have no doubt.

  • Steve Richter

    Republicans have been terrible in making their case on election fraud. A direct and easy to understand way to prove fraud is to contact a sample of voters in a district soon after election day. Ask them to vote again, as they did in the election. Blind ballot. Total up votes in the sample. The vote percentage in the sample should match the vote percentage of the district. If not, you have solid grounds to allege fraud. And if too many of the sampled voters cannot be found, that is also grounds for a fraud charge.

  • S. L.

    Richard M. –


  • Cotour

    This election issue will be reconciled and proven in courts of law with lawyers in front of judges and will be framed in a formal legal structure. That is the only way.

    Money and lawyers and hard evidence formerly discovered through transparent legally approved means solve this political controversy, not off the cuff “Investigations”.

    I hear you and am with you, but what you propose is more fantasy than substantive.

    Know the game, play the game, win the game.

  • Mikesixes

    The long-term fix is easy, albeit politically impossible. Citizens go to the polls on the one appointed election day, show valid ID, fill out a paper ballot, and get their fingers dyed to ensure they can’t vote twice.

  • wayne

    Rick / Milt–

    JFK didn’t really win the 1960 election, either. That didn’t appear to impede him one bit.

  • Mark G.

    The Arizona elections issues are undeniable, and we need to connect these election integrity issues to similar issues in other states. For example, ballot harvesting in most states is illegal but this issue is being revealed by facts such as election officials in Milwaukee sharing Government Election Data with Far Left Groups, and how that may have facilitated massive ballot harvesting. See the May 6 & 7 Twitter feed and podcasts of The Dan O’Donnell Show News/Talk 1130 WISN (WISN-AM). There is also an investigation by the Maciver Institute. You can google both of those.

  • Edward

    Robert commented: “The political clout will shift to the Republican legislatures in these states to tighten the election systems, which in turn will guarantee the true winners will win. And since it will also prove that the Democrats don’t have the support they claim they have, they will lose badly.

    Hah! We expected that to happen last year. Instead, the Republicans rolled over and played dead. Why would we expect any difference in future elections? Why do we continue to rely upon the unreliable Republicans to do the job we elected them to do? What did Einstein define as insanity?

    What would stop the corrupt ballot counting when the poll watchers are ignored when they report abnormalities and outright fraud? The next batch of counters will do the same, even if they have to sacrifice some jail time. They are extremists, after all, willing to make sacrifices for the “greater good.” They were willing in 2020, and they will be willing in future elections.

    Nolan Parker wrote: “The mechanism for repairing the injustice exists.

    Yes, it is called impeachment, for election fraud is surely a high crime or misdemeanor. Unfortunately, that only puts another unelected person in the presidency, so it is not the remedy that the Constitution intended. Also, unfortunately, the party of the frauds is in power in both houses of Congress and is ecstatic that the fraud worked so well. Especially since the fraudulent election is likely the reason that they are in power in Congress, too, so that remedy is unlikely. Thus, BiteMe*/Kommie are not crippled beyond repair and will be able to get virtually everything they want through Congress. Democrats do not care about optics, otherwise they would not be such proud hypocrites.

  • wayne

    obamas Amerika.

  • Thus, BiteMe*/Kommie are not crippled beyond repair and will be able to get virtually everything they want through Congress.

    Then why haven’t they done so already … as opposed to, say, suddenly loosening up on the forced mask-querades?*

    I think that, right now, they realize that they do not have a decisive level of power … and that they can no longer hide behind Winnie the Flu to skirt the safeguards of our system.

    They also realize that the Republicans at the state level are not the same as those in DC, who have been marinated in the Swamp to the point that too many have put their status in the “institutions” over respect for individual liberty and basic fairness. And the same federalism that President Trump respected re: COVID empowers the GOP in those states to resist, with effect, the encroachment of the Left … as much as it empowered the Left to institute “sanctuary states” for illegals.

    (They also know that their fencing and troops in DC are nothing more than a scarecrow and/or speed bump in the path of retribution, if the people get sufficiently irritated.)

    * Is it really a coincidence, that the masks are being loosened as the Pseudodent Administration becomes That ’70’s Show?
    … stagflation becoming a real possibility.
    … gas lines and a restoration of OPEC’s ability to influence the energy markets.
    … increased violence in the MidEast.
    … Watergate redux, in the form of uncovering election “irregularities” in places like Maricopa County?

    “You’ll Wonder Where Your Freedom Went, When You’re Under the Rule of the Pseudodent!”

  • Gary in Transit

    I just watched a CBS hit piece on this audit. They made it clear that the auditing is a result of the demented (mad) ultrapartisan GOP falsely claiming that God’s righteous election officials are corrupt.
    Regardless of outcome, those that control mass communication will control the message. We are the Carthaginians and we face the Romans.
    Unfortunately Trump took an approach that allows him to get his message out but does not allow for a more overarching neutral news/communication infrastructure. Without such a counterforce, we face defeat by the masses that have bought into the propaganda.

  • Gary, the masses may have bought into the propaganda for now, but the propagandists are already being overtaken by reality … perhaps not yet with regards to the tainted election, but with regards to stagflation, energy problems, and MidEast turmoil.

    We are dealing with a faction that exhibits all the hubris of John Hammond and his Jurassic Park … and are just as vulnerable to finding out UNEXPECTEDLY! that “life finds a way” to bite them. They can’t control and/or hide all the ways that will happen.

    Of course, the masses are just as vulnerable – because decades of living under social technocracy has conditioned nearly all of us to trust the “experts” more than we trust ourselves and our own, proximity-informed insight. When the bite(s) hit, those are teachable moments where we have an opportunity to cut through the propaganda and erode that blind trust.

    And it is the replacement of that blind trust, with the responsibility of becoming (again) the ultimate decision-makers over our own lives (because who knows better what you’re facing, than you?), that is the way of overcoming the primary fallacy of social technocracy … that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves … and all the dysfunctions that are its derivatives, from racial strife to economic vulnerability to being painted into a corner by those who say they are doing so to “help” you.

    Let us prepare ourselves for that opportunity – by examining ourselves and seeing how we ourselves are bitterly clinging to our pet piece of social technocracy, and either rid ourselves of it or be ready to explain why we are still stuck with it, and what needs to change to get un-stuck from it.

  • Edward

    Jester Naybor asked: “Then why haven’t they done so already … as opposed to, say, suddenly loosening up on the forced mask-querades?

    Why do you think that loosening up the mask mandate is bad for BiteMe*? Since he is the one to declare the relaxed rules, he becomes the hero, rather than the guy who got us those vaccines. It reinforces the power that BiteMe* has over the rest of us.

  • It reinforces the power that BiteMe* has over the rest of us.

    Not as much as the conditioning-for-compliance-in-all-areas effect of a continued mask mandate, does.

    And it’s not just him … the American Federation of Teachers are pulling a similar, neck-snapping, high-G turn.

    It’s also generating intra-party stresses – between the Pseudodent and the bitter-clingers to SCIENCE!!! like Cuomo.

    This looks like diversion in the service of damage control, by the Pseudodent’s handlers … for there is a lot of damage to control in such a short time.

  • Edward

    Jester Naybor,
    You wrote: “Not as much as the conditioning-for-compliance-in-all-areas effect of a continued mask mandate, does.

    It is the same power. BiteMe* has the power to free us from the mask mandates, which means that he has the power to keep us under the mandates, a power that he exercised for more than a hundred days as dictator of the mask. There is no damage to control, there is just the power to change the mandates. With our modern version of Lysenkoism, BiteMe* even has the power to change the science, just as happened last year when Fauci, the CDC, and others changed the science from saying that masks don’t work to saying that they do, and that masks would stop the disease. They were wrong, of course, because the disease got worse during flu season despite the masks.

    There is no damage from the recounts and investigations into election fraud, because the news stories say that these are conspiracies to change the reality rather than legal actions to find the reality. Just as they got the Republicans to go along with the stolen election, these investigations are not going to change any minds about the election results. There is no damage to control. The control occurs with the news reports, preventing the damage from happening at all. The Democrats get to stay in power, and even the Republicans are not questioning BiteMe*’s authority, Kommie’s authority, or the Democrat-controlled Congress’s authority. There is no damage to control.

  • Edward: This is no cause for warning or banning, only advice. The use of the term “BiteMe” in place of “Biden” does nothing for your (or my) cause. It makes you look childish, immature, and unserious. You will convince no one who has any doubts about Biden’s incompetence and corruption by doing this. All it will do is have them dismiss you as not worth reading.

    Just sayin’.

  • Edward, Ron Desantis, Kristi Noem, and several other governors would disagree with your take on Biden’s alleged omnipotence.

  • pzatchok

    The left media is working overtime to take any credit for the vaccines away from Trump and giving false credit to Biden.

    I do have one question though.
    Why did the vaccine companies not come up with a vaccine until after the election?
    And then why did the FDA not approve them until just before Biden took office?

    Now we are hearing that the companies had been working on this new bio tech for years. Then just changed it for this virus and waited for approval to use.

    The proof will be when the companies come up with their next vaccine inside weeks instead of months for this one.
    Just wait, Biden will ask for, finance and get new vaccines for the variants of covid just before the next election.
    Just in time for some positive news for him.

    Why no tests to see if this vaccine w2orks on the new Covid and why no requests for new vaccines from Biden?
    Its too soon.

  • wayne

    Jordan Peterson / Akira
    “Lunchbucket” 2018

    “…can you take a joke? can you be useful? can you at least be amusing? Is there something worthwhile about you? No, it’s like ok, well then, you’re outa here. Because you never know when we actually might need to depend upon you…”

  • Edward

    Since it hurts your cause, I will find a different way to disrespect him.

    Jester Naybor,
    Neither of those governors has any power over the bills in Congress or whether they are signed into law. The Seventeenth Amendment removed any amount of power over Congress that the states once had.

    pzatchok asked: “Why did the vaccine companies not come up with a vaccine until after the election?

    Actually, well before the election the companies announced that the vaccines were in test and suggested the possibility that they could be available in October, before the election.

    And then why did the FDA not approve them until just before Biden took office?

    Because the government has taken sides in elections.

  • Edward: Neither of those governors has any power over the bills in Congress or whether they are signed into law.

    But why aren’t they being forced to march in lock-step on masks with Biden/Fauci/Cuomo/Whitmer, four months into the current regime, er, Administration? Biden’s authority is not absolute … just as Trump’s was not. The difference is that Biden, like a puff adder, wants to make us think it is because he lacks the respect for individual freedom that Trump respected.

    And if any of the Progressive overreach actually does get signed into law, watch what happens in their states, and several others. We are used to seeing the Feds use their control of funds to leverage states into compliance … I seriously question whether that will work to force compliance with this overreach. Red states also have the precedent of “sanctuary cities” to leverage against the overreach. Irish democracy is not limited to individuals.

    The front line for the battle between freedom and the Church of Woke, has now shifted from DC to the states.

  • Edward

    Jester Naybor,
    You have wandered from the topic. The topic is the Democrats getting virtually everything they want through Congress, not whether or not masks have to be worn in all states at all times. The mask example was to show that the president has not lost power but has achieved hero status by freeing us from our asthma simulators.

    Red states also have the precedent of “sanctuary cities” to leverage against the overreach. Irish democracy is not limited to individuals.

    More powerful than the present of sanctuary cities is the rule of law. Red states believe in the rule of law, but sanctuary cities do not, willing to break laws when they decide it is convenient. If the Red states begin to do the same, then the country is lost, as we will have become a nation of men, not of laws — where the law is applied depending more upon who you are rather than being applied equally to all. The former is a corrupt system, the latter is more orderly. In a nation, state, or city in which the law applies to some but not others, then how can each of us be sure whether the law applies to us or not?

    Not only is Irish democracy not limited to individuals, it does not apply to the individual. It requires the action of millions, because the individual would be arrested, whereas it is difficult to arrest millions. I am confused as to how this applies to the discussion of the Democrats ability to wield power. It isn’t as though millions of law-abiding citizens are going to save the country by suddenly becoming law-breakers, like the Democrats. Emulating the Democrats is how we lost the Republican Party and got into this mess.

  • The imposition of panic-demic and mask-querades is indicative of the level of direct power over us that our leaders – and their media clothiers – possess over us. As is their reluctance to jam HR1 and all the rest of their overreach down our throats. Their power hangs by the threads of a couple of Senators and a few Reps from districts that Trump won bigly.

    The media may have dressed Biden the emperor in heroic robes, but only in the eyes of those who already believe in him as their Decent Guy savior. The rest of us see the lack of actual clothing upon his frame.

    George III had the rule of law on his side, in the years before 1776. When the law is used to deny/trample upon individual liberty for any reason except to protect those rights for others, the law has become illegitimate and not worthy of respect. Such is the situation we find ourselves in.

    And I agree, Edward, it is because we all – and not just the GOP – have emulated the Democrats … not with disdain for the rule of law, but with our passive acceptance of their social technocracy and its confession of faith regarding that “little intellectual elite” that is reflected in our obedience to their laws.

    We have to think outside the box of that passive acceptance and its underlying assumptions, for only then can we make a coherent case to our neighbors for its rejection and to coin a phrase, Make America Great Again.

  • Such is the situation we find ourselves in.

    Like our founding citizens did for years in the runup to Lexington and Concord, I am still looking for peaceful solutions to our current situation. I am not advocating outright anarchy or revolution (yet), but there is a wide spectrum of action between those extremes and simply accepting the status quo and as some say, “vote harder.”

  • Cotour


    I think the take away from the audits as they continue and grow, is that our voting system has been infiltrated and is no longer to be trusted anywhere in the country. Its all been a fraud for probably as long as these computer voting machines have existed. I never trusted them from the jump and that will I am certain be born out very soon.

    And its going to be reasonably assumed that the Democrat party and its leadership are culpable, it is their nature to have such lofty aspirations such as actually fully and fraudulently controlling the vote in America.

    This situation is growing hotter and hotter.

    The only question remains, to what degree will they go to protect their bad acts and the perverted system? A wounded animal facing the canceling of their existence is very dangerous. Expect everything and anything up to and including burglary, arson and murder.

  • Chris

    To me the key is how any of this new is reported. Investigators could find irrefutable evidence that could be easily displayed of a conspiracy to and action taken to steal the election. If the Democrat party and their media minions (I’m not sure the Democrats are not the Media’s minions) say: “there is no real proof here”. Then to a great part of the nation they will believe there is no real proof. Today we all have our own sources of media. We believe what they say. We do not have the resources nor the time nor the skill to truly find the truth – so we trust our sources.
    This is the rub, Social media, Main Stream Media and the Democrat party have a choke hold on what is generally seen, heard and written. If we cannot break into that we cannot win conventionally.

  • Cotour

    This is what approaches:

    “What CBS News Carefully Hides About Maricopa County Ballot Audit”

    The Democrats understand that they will be losing power in the midterm elections, that is how they play the game. Move the ball forward and hold. And given that model they will do what ever that have to do up to and including murder to execute that plan.

    Move the ball and hold, eventually, incrementally you get to where you need to be.

  • Gary in Transit

    “This is the rub, Social media, Main Stream Media and the Democrat party have a choke hold on what is generally seen, heard and written. If we cannot break into that we cannot win..”

    This is the bottom line. I would include the propaganda which passes as education. Unless this can be countered, there is no hope for the future of this country. I believe that many years of Chinese and Russian disinformation and billions spent to destabilize U.S. society have worked. Many..if not most citizens believe what they are told to believe and they do not rely upon their own eyes and ears. Alexa..”What is the temperature?” Many don’t make any effort to go outside and decide if it is too cold, or hot.

  • wayne

    the timing of the vaccine…..
    –if I recall correctly, in the september/october time-frame, Trump pushed through a Policy about what pricing the Fed government would accept for Medicaid & Medicare (and VA) pharmaceutical purchases.
    That cut into their fat-margins, big time. And to pay Trump back, they sat on their hands…..
    [tangentially– on top of the price for the vaccine(s), (range $7 to $17 per dose, paid in advance by the Feds) the government is also paying $20-$40 per dose administered.]

    As I mentioned in another thread; one of the huge problems with pharmaceutical’s is, “You Are NOT The Customer.”
    If you have Medicaid, the government is the customer, if you have Medicare, the government is the customer, if you have (quasi) private insurance, your Pharmacy Benefit Manager is the customer.
    There is nothing “free-market” about pharmaceuticals. (unless you physically buy your meds in Mexico or Canada, or order them from India, on the internet.)

  • Edward

    Jester Naybor wrote: “The imposition of panic-demic and mask-querades is indicative of the level of direct power over us …

    That was my point, and it is still off topic.

    The rest of us see the lack of actual clothing upon his frame.

    And have for years and decades. However, he is still “emperor” and wields the power despite being a plagiarist, racist, and fraud. Just because a lot of us know the truth does not mean that the ones with the guns and the courts don’t follow him.

    We have to think outside the box of that passive acceptance and its underlying assumptions, for only then can we make a coherent case to our neighbors for its rejection and to coin a phrase, Make America Great Again.

    But not too far outside the box. The box still contains the necessity for the equivalent of the Declaration of Independence, something that convinces the world why it is necessary to reject the king’s rule.

    Chris wrote: “If the Democrat party and their media minions (I’m not sure the Democrats are not the Media’s minions) say: ‘there is no real proof here’. Then to a great part of the nation they will believe there is no real proof.

    They have already conceded to proof of widespread fraud, but reject that the fraud was enough to alter the outcome of the election. That is the latest mantra. Their claims changed as the evidence was presented. Hopefully this will continue to be the case until they finally have to admit that the election was stolen.

  • Cotour


    “Breaking: Georgia Judge Calls for Forensic Audit of Fulton County Ballots After Large Discrepancies Found in Ballot Batches”

    “The judge ordered the parties to appear at the ballot storage location at 10 AM on May 28th. The November 2020 ballots will be scanned at 600 dpi or higher.”

  • Cotour


    As you probably know former Attorney General for the Trump administration, Bill Barr has no love lost for his former boss.

    I have listened to Mr. Barr on the subject of the 2020 presidential election and his opinion as he related to President Trump was that there was nothing of material substance to indicate that the 2020 presidential election would have been consequential enough to have changed the results and that it was stolen. It was all BS, nothing to see here.

    BUT, from what I have gathered there are many, many instances throughout the country where there was without doubt suspicions at the minimum and evidence at the max that there were actions taken by the Democrat party machine where they without doubt had manipulated the vote to call into question the result. Remember, it’s those who count the votes that determine who wins. You cannot find what you refuse to look for or see.

    And that would be things like:

    * Mark Zuckerberg (D) of Facebook one of your new social media overlords and censors of what information you are allowed to see writing a check for $400 million for special vote by mail mailboxes where harvested mail in votes could be delivered to. Keeping in mind that mail in voting is without doubt the most corrupt ridden and fraudulent method of voting and is banned in many countries for that exact reason.

    * The mysterious November 4th two in the morning event when in concert the election results being posted in the media turned from a clear Trump lead to a Biden lead and ultimate win.

    * And we all remember in Philadelphia when those Democrats counting the votes papered up the windows where the counting was being done and not allowing legally permitted observers to see what they were doing as boxes of apparently preprepared votes came in the back door to ensure the needed results.

    * And of course, who could forget, the now infamous Georgia vote counting facility where there was a pipe “leak” and everyone was told to go home where the ballots were taken from under the tables in the counting room while the double and triple counting was done into the early morning hours by a special team who stayed behind. All recorded on video. Trump had to lose, period!

    “Nothing of consequence that would have changed the results of the election” is what Mr. Barr states.

    But what is Mr. Barrs position on Trump if he becomes the 2024 presidential candidate? (I found this very amusing for him to have to admit)

    Barr says he’ll likely back Trump in 2024 if he’s Republican nominee

    Bill Barr says he’ll likely back Trump if he’s 2024 GOP nominee (–~D

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