Update on the lie that was COVID
How our governments determined policy against COVID during
the past two years.
Now that the crisis of the day has shifted to the Ukraine War, bringing with it new demands by our so-called rulers to once again panic in order to begin a world war, it pays to look back at the last fake panic, what I like to call the lie that was COVID.
Below are a only few examples of the never-ending new stories daily that illustrate starkly the foolishness and the over-reaction to COVID. Take some time to read them all.
First, was COVID the deadly disease that could kill you, as claimed by our academic and political leaders? In a word, no. The two stories below simply show its harmlessness to children, something that was obvious almost from the beginning of the panic.
- New Data: Covid Was Never More Dangerous to Young Adults and Children Than Seasonal Flu
- CDC Removes 24 Percent of Child COVID-19 Deaths, Thousands of Others
In the past two years anyone with any interest in the truth could have easily found and read similar stories. The threat was routinely exaggerated, sometimes to the point of faking data. These two stories are merely the tip of the iceberg. If I wanted I could add twenty, thirty, fifty more and still not list them all.
Both of these stories however illustrate the evil of the next two:
- New woke NYC health commissioner sparks fury as he orders under-fives to be masked FOREVER and says his four-year-old isn’t ‘safe’ without one
- Preschool special-needs boy has mask forcibly tied to his face by a teacher
The New York petty tyrant in the first story is not alone. Democratic Party politicians nationwide, from President Joe Biden down to local school boards, have repeatedly shown themselves obsessed with putting masks on little kids, sometimes even by physical and vicious force.
As for the second story, note that it occurred two days ago in Chicago, the first day that Chicago schools had shifted to a “mask-optional” policy. Yet the teacher smacked a mask of the toddler, who ended up coming home crying. His father’s reaction:
I am writing this as neutrally as I possibly can because I don’t think merely posting an unbroken string of expletives will explain much to anybody, but…I am not in a congenial mood.
Read the thread at the link and you will feel the same way.
This irrational demand for the last two years to make little helpless children wear masks, when there was no chance the Wuhan flu was any threat to them, is nothing more than outright and vicious child abuse. For teachers and government officials, such as the examples above, to impose these mask mandates now, when it is clear to everyone there is no reason, is also insane.
But wait, there’s more! It also appears that the masks themselves, which number now in the billions, are incredibly harmful to the environment.
The story comes from the American Geophysical Union, hardly a right wing news outlet.
The researchers observed altered behaviors in tide pool animals that appear to be associated with the chemicals leaching from disposable masks. The behavioral effects include signs of stress and reduced ability to detect mates and reproduce.
The effects could have repercussions in the marine food chain, potentially cascading up to affect the seafoods humans consume, according to the researchers who will report results from their ongoing experiments on 3 March at the 2022 Ocean Sciences Meeting, being held online from 24 February through 4 March.
“We’re seeing more and more masks in rocky pools,” said Laurent Seuront, a marine ecologist at the French Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, who will present the new research. “This could cascade up the food chain and up to us.”
And then there is the solid evidence from many studies that the “vaccines”, mandated by governments and corporations because they supposedly protected people from getting COVID, have been completely useless in protecting anyone.
The article reviewed all 44 research papers, and concluded as follows:
What these studies show are that vaccines are important to reduce severe disease and death, but unable to prevent the disease from spreading and eventually infect most of us. That is, while the vaccines provide individual benefits to the vaccinee, and especially to older high-risk people, the public benefit of universal vaccination is in grave doubt. As such, Covid vaccines should not be expected to contribute to eliminating the communal spread of the virus or the reaching of herd immunity. This unravels the rationale for vaccine mandates and passports.
None of this should be a surprise, especially because the shots were developed quickly, were experimental, and a very big unknown. These factors should have made any vaccine mandates, from the beginning, not only irrational, but morally wrong. The decision to have such a drug injected into anyone’s body must belong that individual, not some government official or corporate CEO.
Furthermore, the government’s blind love affair with these experimental COVID shots made it blind and even hostile to other options, even those options that have shown solid evidence of working. Rather than look for all possible avenues to ease the epidemic, the petty dictators who now rule us picked their favorite (vaccines), and then did everything possible to outlaw the use of anything else.
All in all, the evidence continues to build that not only was COVID never the threat claimed by those who panicked over it, their response to that imagined threat was counter-productive and actually harmful, in every way that can be imagined.
This bankrupt leadership should be fired, forthwith. I wonder if Americans have the courage to do so.
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Don’t look over here, there’s a war going on over there.
Signed,
Your Government
The capper was the unreported Johns Hopkins study saying the lockdowns were not needed…from Red Eye radio.
RZ makes many good points …then makes a seemingly senseless statement based on his own posted information. That is,
vaccines “have been COMPLETELY USELESS in protecting ANYONE.” followed by the reported conclusion of 44 papers
“…vaccines are important to reduce severe disease and death…the vaccines provide individual benefits to the vaccinee, and especially to older high-risk people…” Why is it that RZ is continually unwilling to simply admit the Covid virus was roughly 15 times as lethal as “normal” flu and the vaccines were an effective protection for some people?
AND the mandates were outrageous and unnecessary.
AND the number of people in the U.S. mortally threatened (ie needing hospitalization) of covid was about 4 in 1000 per year. The number of covid-19 induced deaths about half of that (0.2% of the population)…hardly an existential crisis warranting the egregious devastation of an economy, personal finances, private businesses, education, and the social health and happiness of entire societies.
Fawlty Towers
“Don’t Mention the War”
https://youtu.be/RyPj21jBl_0
4:22
m d mill:
Semantics.
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/cdcs-definition-vaccine-has-changed-over-time-protection-vs-immunity
From the article:
The CDC’s definition of “vaccine” also has changed: Last spring, CDC defined a vaccine as “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.”
The only reason to receive a vaccine is to acquire immunity. All RNA covid innoculations do not provide that. By definition then, they are not in fact vaccines at all and are completely useless.
With immunity off the table, other viable treatments provide support while the body fights off differing strengths of infection, such as ivermectin. They have decades long historical usage with well documented side effects, unlike the RNA covid shots. In my own case aspirin proved sufficient.
It should always have been every individual’s choice, with physician guidance, of what tool to use to address covid infection. I may have chosen the RNA shot if I had known exactly how miserable those nine days of infection would be.
Then again, maybe not.
I have a friend who is both a lawyer and an RN. He thought he would not need an exemption from his work and alas, he did. We spoke at length about what our “defense” should be against the inoculation, given what we knew of Israel, and other highly inoulated countries. He kept telling me that time is our friend. I made it past all the BS and have natural immunity.
My son, according to tests has had Covid twice. The second time, he was sicker. He has some health issues, at 22. Mainly an aortic stenosis which is stable. He got an echocardiogram just after the second infection, which, thankfully showed no change to any of his heart muscles. But the doc still advised him to get the shot. She used fear. “If you get Covid again AND myocarditis, it would be worse than getting the shot. As his mother, I was not speaking his language, but he trusts his sister, who had side effects…she told him to wait the 90 days. Well, the Pfizer papers released March 1 showed that in the first 90 days what the results were of inoculation. 1223 people died. My son decided not to do it because of those papers.
Time is knocking down every domino. Keeping the faith was hard and so was standing on principle. I am, as Harry Potter suggests…”pureblood” and I aim to never take another inoculation as long as I live. The jabs may hold efficacy in terms of severity of illness, but it was really a very large experiment and many people were injured severely and cannot seek restitution due to the indemnity of these dishonest pharmas. The long term effects are not known. And all the lettered agencies who allowed these crimes to occur need to be held accountable. Fauci is a narcissistic fraud who now thinks people are still going to listen to him about another variant. Not. on. my. life.
m d mill:
What is being called a vaccine produced by several drug companies regarding the Covid event is technically IMO, strictly not a vaccine. It’s an mRNA gene drug therapy or something similar.
Did they have an effect in the severity of the disease? I would have to say yes to some degree.
BUT, were these new technology drug therapies truly and honestly represented by their producers and the government agencies that oversaw their production, distribution and application? NO THEY WERE NOT.
This virus event was used as a mass proof of concept opportunity by the powers that be which included the essential NO LIABILTY feature.
So technically the Zman is correct because what was / is presented as a vaccine is in fact technically not one. (IMO anyway)
Strictly pure Big think, Big government Strategy, not much Morality, and the long term effects and true costs are not known or knowable at this time.
Cotour:
“What is being called a vaccine produced by several drug companies regarding the Covid event is technically IMO, strictly not a vaccine. It’s an mRNA gene drug therapy or something similar.”
Thank you; I wish more people would call the mRNA inoculation what it really is, the drug companies’ therapeutic inoculation with potentially serious side effects. In fact not much different than many pharmaceutical offerings, all of which can have serious side effects.
If one watches live TV for forty five minutes one will see over and over multiple pharmaceutical advertisements, ALL of which have a repressed side caveat: “if you have or experience asthma, heart condition, etc, etc. you should see your physician before taking _____.”
Do we ever see this for Pfizer’s or Moderna’s, or ____’s mRNA inoculation? Never. Which incidentally puts the mRNA inoculations, ala “vaccination” squarely into a protected political space. It is not a stretch to call this FRAUD, kind of like other operations w have experienced.
Cotour-
just a psych-major;
the emergency use substance(s) are not a ‘vaccine’ in the ordinary use of the word. They were designed to produce an Effect, but as I’m understanding it, not an Effect that I would reasonably expect from a ‘vaccine.’ And, they were designed to be quickly approved and mass produced, at between $7-$23 per dose.
–the ‘ordinary’ yearly Flu-vaccine(s) in contrast, are all killed-virus strain type vaccines. They use modern techniques to mass produce them in high-quality, but it’s not comprised of mRNA at their core. They also have to make an educated guess as to the Strains they choose to include, 9 months in advance.
A repeat from me, but this is an education if you compare and contrast then & now.
(who would have thought, a stupid Halloween mask, would have saved us all from polio?)
Unconditional Surrender (1956)
Polio and the Salk Vaccine
https://youtu.be/G9z2uym00jE
14:33
John S:
It’s Called Strategy OVER Morality, the two conversations.
A warning panel on the mRNA “vaccine”?
Not necessary, its being used under a declared national health emergency and there is NO liability still.
This moment in time in America and the world is when theoretically humanity says goodby to the old vaccine technology that takes so long to develop and prove its efficacy, and the *NEW* mRNA technology that takes much less time to dial in and develop and get out to the world.
And that establishing the viability of that *NEW* technology essentially is the boiled down main motivation that has been driving this entire event. All done without any liability and so there are no downside potentials for those several companies.
Its a government/ business win win, and the public is but potential collateral damage. But its worth it in the big picture big think world.
Wayne:
You are the master of finding video, there was a panel discussion which included a Vanity Fair writer and Dr. Fauci and this exact subject about getting rid of the old to replace it with the new but I can not locate it. Maybe you can find it?
The takeaway from the discussion was that the Vanity fair writer unabashedly proposed just getting rid of the old technology and replacing it with the new. And to be honest Dr. Fauci was not as enthusiastic about his proposal and pointed out the many problems with such an action.
IMO just one more half baked half educated Liberal Leftist “New world” think proposal much like the “Green New deal” where they have the cart before the horse and out of sequence and demand that the energy industry be destroyed before it is demonstrated that any alternative technology can actually do the job.
Stupid for the sake of stupid, but they have such lofty morals and ideals. But in the end everyone dies.
So then we are left with the question: Whats the point?
Do all virus pandemics become less lethal over time? The original Covid-2 caused NYC hospitals to be overwhelmed. But now Omnicron is more mild than covid classic. Same with AIDS. The initial AIDS outbreak was brutal in how it killed so many. But now, no one dies of AIDS. Is that because of effective treatments. Or is it also because the virus itself has mutated to be less lethal?
This is interesting to me because I heard no Fauci type virus experts telling the public that Covid would naturally wane over time. With the waning caused by the mutating of the virus to more mild versions.
( by the time the polio vaccine was developed in 1952 was polio as rampant in children as it had been when FDR was stricken? )
Steve Richter: I am no expert in this but based on what I have been reading, respiratory viruses like the flu and the Wuhan flu do naturally wane with time. Think about it. New flu strains have been tracked as routinely arriving every year for the past century, are more deadly at first, and then become more benign.
This pattern however does not apply to all viruses, such as polio or AIDS. They are different beasts by far. And people are still dying of AIDS, though today’s treatments manage to extend their lives somewhat.
That this known fact was never mentioned by Fauci and other government officials should tell you everything you need to know about them. They weren’t interested in telling you the truth, they were interested in lying to further their own ends.
A question and a comment:
Q; ” they were interested in lying to further their own ends.” What exactly were those ends? Can they actually be identified and known? I know what I think they are, but can they be nailed down?
Comment: There is a general demand being made that the mask mandate in the remaining venues that demand them be dropped, specifically in those young 5 year old’s going to school. That issue is not about a concern about the children’s health, that is driven by the concerns of the teachers through their teachers union and their influence within government.
The teachers see the young children and children in general as walking talking biohazards to begin with and the mask mandate is just an extension of that in an attempt to protect them.
I hear many ask and argue: But the risk to young children is essentially zero, so why should they have to wear masks?
Its the power of the unions that drives that, and its the power of the unions that have driven much of this irrational Covid insanity IMO.
” ‘The researchers observed altered behaviors in tide pool animals that appear to be associated with the chemicals leaching from disposable masks. The behavioral effects include signs of stress and reduced ability to detect mates and reproduce.’ ”
But the same chemicals don’t affect the humans breathing through the same masks?
Uh, huh.
Cotour,
“But its worth it in the big picture big think world.”
Nope, maybe that’s sarcasm, But the mRNA is encapsulated in lipid nano-vesicles as a path to cross cell membranes. that was one of the “big” breakthroughs. (mutual internal license with a couple of bio firms). All cell membranes are composed of lipo-proteins (hydrophobic), and the inoculated mRNA, thus unannounced and unintentionally can, and does, enter organs throughout, with sporadic unintended spike protein translation (RNA to protein), That in perilous tissue locations. If that is “big think” we’re talking serious big think, big picture, ignorance and arrogance, especially when multiple effective interventions and epidemiological analysis could have served better.
JS:
“especially when multiple effective interventions and epidemiological analysis could have served better.”
You did not notice that the powers that be in the government and big business as well as big tech had no interest in any other “Effective interventions”? All they were allowing was a mandated experimental mRNA drug “Vaccine”.
You did not notice that? Think back, what do you think that was about? What do you suppose drove that, what was clear me and many others counter intuitive agenda?
And remember, you me and those in the Pedestrian Realm think in rational and commonsense terms. And those in the Political Realm can think in more lets say Strategic terms where necessary things can get done when they are deemed necessary or opportune.
Q: Where does the justification for such actions to be undertaken come from?
A: S.O.M., The Two Conversations.
From S.O.M. : CONCLUSION: The public lives and operates under a subjective moral code or within a “Pedestrian Realm” perspective which they assume their leadership which exists within the “Political Realm” is constrained by. This is a subjective false perspective conclusion on the part of the public. Leadership at its existential core is not about morality, truth and honesty. Leadership is about the fundamental exercise of power and “its” survival.
Many of you should consider again the definition of vaccine:
“A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.”
Vaccines do not have to be 100% preventative of all symptoms or infection on all people to be a “vaccine”.
Vaccines that don’t work well on some older people (far below 100% because they have very poor immune systems) are still “vaccines”.
Any substance that enhances immune response by the method described in the definition is a vaccine….it may or may not be safe and effective.
Flu shots are vaccines by all modern medical terminology, but they are far from 100% effective.
The Wuhan flu vaccines work by enhancing immunity…that is the only thing they CAN do, they can do nothing else!
They do not kill the virus directly. If given after infection they have no or little effect because they only work by enhancing the hosts own immune system before infection, per the definition. This is the most critical point. Let me repeat it:
The Wuhan flu vaccines work by enhancing immunity…that is the only thing they CAN do, they can do nothing else!
They do not kill the virus directly. If given after infection they have no or little effect because they only work by enhancing the hosts own immune system before infection, per the definition.
They are vaccines, and they are not 100% preventative, and they might not even be safe for many people.
I consider therapeutics to be remedial, not preventative…but that may not be the broadest definition.
And that the vaccines DO work, is evidenced by RZ’s own post and here:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/09/covid-19-vaccines-protect-against-severe-illness-during-delta
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2582
A covid vaccine (see definition above) that reduces death and hospitalization by 80 or 90% is still an effective vaccine. If you were a high risk person and would rather have gotten very sick(even deathly sick) and gone to the hospital and relied on therapeutics to save your life from the original or delta covid variant, so be it.
It is true that therapeutics are getting better and the new variants are getting much less dangerous so vaccines are becoming pointless for all but a few.
However, all the silly semantical games about the “true” definition of a “vaccine” simply avoid the point of my original comment:
RZ makes many good points …then makes a seemingly senseless statement based on his own posted information. That is,
vaccines “have been COMPLETELY USELESS in protecting ANYONE.” followed by the reported conclusion of 44 papers
“…vaccines are important to reduce severe disease and death…the vaccines provide individual benefits to the vaccinee, and especially to older high-risk people…” Why is it that RZ, and many others, are continually unwilling to simply admit the Covid virus was roughly 15 times as lethal as “normal” flu and the vaccines were an effective protection for some people?
AND the mandates were outrageous and unnecessary.
AND the number of people in the U.S. mortally threatened (ie needing hospitalization) of covid was only about 4 in 1000 per year. And the number of covid-19 induced deaths about half of that (0.2% of the population)…hardly an existential crisis warranting the egregious devastation of an economy, personal finances, private businesses, education, and the social health and happiness of entire societies.
m d mill,
You asked: “Why is it that RZ is continually unwilling to simply admit the Covid virus was roughly 15 times as lethal as “normal” flu and the vaccines were an effective protection for some people?”
You keep asking, and we keep answering. You seem to have difficulties with memory retention.
Edward: I have thought about asking my readers to put together a betting pool to see who can guess how soon mdmill will cut and past his standard “15 times as lethal” paragraph into the comments following anything I post about the Wuhan flu.
So far he has done so in what seems every single such post generally within 24 hours. Now when I write anything about COVID, I wait with amusement for the next to arrive, and am always rewarded. And it doesn’t matter how many times you or others or even I point out how bogus his number is (I gave up trying about 18 months ago), he cuts and pastes the same paragraph into his first comment every single time.
Most amusing.
A short, easy to read article showing that vaccines worked and that vaccine hesitancy led to increased deaths. It doesn’t get much simpler than this.
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-pandemics-politics-masks-vaccines-deaths-2644f22b-fa77-4e34-a6fe-8b492172dff2.html
And a bonus video.
https://youtu.be/BaARGyL6hEw
Bobby Hill:
So does this chart mean that you agree that the government has the obligation, the absolute Right to tell free Americans that they MUST have an experimental drug injected into their bodies? Especially when there are more established, proven and effective medical methods and alternatives available.
Who owns your choice and your life?
Do Americans have the Right to choose in such situations in your opinion?
Cotour, the chart doesn’t mean anything about my opinions, its just about the link between vaccine hesitancy and infection rates.
But to answer your question, I believe there are limits to individual rights when they infringe upon the rights of others. I believe that there are cases where the rights of the majority in a society do take precedent over individual rights. In the case of COVID, I would have been open to allowing people choose not to be vaccinated, but with limitations on other things they are allowed to do, so as not to infect others. Logically, they would be the ones to stay home as anti-vaxers are so happy to offer as a solution to the people they laugh at for not wanting to be infected. The problem we have seen in the US is that so many freedom folks think their rights trample those of all others.
So are you for anything that overcomes vaccine hesitancy? Any illness, any experimental drug preparation? When ever the peoples “owners” say so?
Even when it is demonstratable that that vaccine is in fact more of a “vaccine” and is a new technology never before used on the human host at the level that it was used during this Covid event? This has truly been THEE largest uninformed and forced experiment on the human race. You think the Tuskegee experiment was an outrage? (Have you ever heard of that? Pure S.O.M.)
And there are now emerging some of the more sobering data facts about deaths and injuries from that same experimental “vaccine”. Was it effective in dialing down some of the more extreme effects of Covid for many? I would say yes. But at what cost that is not knowable at this time?
It was apparent to many from the start that there was something not right and an unreasonable steering and manipulation program accompanied by extreme censorship and a Right to know by those in government, big pharma and big tech. That was plain to me, was it plain to you? How do you feel about it if you were?
And its those at the minimum unreasonable and dishonest actions by those big government, big pharma, big tech entities that have caused all of the confusion, chaos and distrust.
There are substantive points to your argument, but there have been things that have gone on during this declared health emergency that is suspect at the minimum. And at the maximum there is something nefarious and that threatens all American freedom and their health, IMO.
Bobby Hill, and those that cannot take the vaccine? Been advised by their doctors not to, should they too, give up on living outside their home so that you can “feel” safe.
No sorry, you (nor any gov agency) do not get to order people otherwise healthy people to quarantine while they are not ill.
Sippin_bourbon, you’re conflating two different cases in order to confuse the argument. I was speaking of people who choose not to get vaccinated, not people who can’t. There are relatively few people who have medical reasons that prohibit them from being vaccinated. I would also venture to guess that given their conditions, and knowledge about their vulnerabilities, they wouldn’t be out exposing themselves in dangerous ways anyway. So, the problem lies in those stubborn freedom warriors that don’t see the patriotism in doing small things to protect their fellow countrymen.
m d mill:
https://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk
Bobby Hill wrote: “The problem we have seen in the US is that so many freedom folks think their rights trample those of all others.”
Yet the reality is the other way around. The rights of the others trample those of the freedom folks. As every anti-freedom person knows, it is only fair. Their own rights reign supreme, not the rights of those who believe in freedom and liberty.
National Geographic is reporting on a “self-spreading vaccine”
And they called Ed Teller crazy.
Bobby Hill–
I don’t have the power to tax you, kill you, or draft you, so whatever I do while I’m minding my own business, has zero effect on anyone else.