Another political story today says John Boehner’s position as House Speaker is under threat
Link here.here. I have seen about three stories on this subject today alone, from a wide spectrum of news sources. This only confirms what was indicated before the recess, that Boehner no longer has the votes among Republicans, and that we will likely see a change in September.
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Link here.here. I have seen about three stories on this subject today alone, from a wide spectrum of news sources. This only confirms what was indicated before the recess, that Boehner no longer has the votes among Republicans, and that we will likely see a change in September.
Posted from the airport in Spokane, on the way home.
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In 2020 when the world panicked over COVID I wrote that the panic was unnecessary, that the virus was apparently simply a variation of the flu, that masks were not simply pointless but if worn incorrectly were a health threat, that the lockdowns were a disaster and did nothing to stop the spread of COVID. Only in the past year have some of our so-called experts in the health field have begun to recognize these facts.
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I re-post this from Sept. 3rd in response to the Bohner theory. The damage has been done, what material difference would / will it make? I tend to think that things at this level do not just happen.
Lets go to crazy land:
When we ask ourselves why is everything political 180 degrees from what common sense would say was reasonable, why would that be? What if there was a fact or a strong indication that one party (the Republicans) was complicit in something so offensive to the American people that it would spell total destruction of the two party system and the Republican organization and that fact or indication was being used to leverage them (read blackmail) to allow this one sided crazy situation to exist when the Republicans have real power recently given to them by the people and they are actually sitting on their hands to allow it?
Obama clears out of Iraq and in time total chaos ensues and Islamic refugees flood into the Christian dominated country’s of Europe and America.
Remember, this is crazy land but this forced acceptance of people further accomplishes the goal of culturally blending the entire world where there are no borders and the U.N. now has dominion over those blended people.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/26/barackobama.uselections2008
Anything is possible in crazy land when we are talking about the acquisition of, retention of and the application of power. All you have to do is have a dream, and some awesome leverage, from a father or where ever.
Think about it.
Unfortunately, I think that when you add the votes he’ll get from Democrats, Boehner has enough votes to stay in. He certainly hasn’t given them any incentive to vote him out, and the Republicans on their own will not muster enough votes for anyone else.
I hope I’m wrong.
If you ask me, it can’t happen quickly enough.
“Set aside the constant threat of rebellion, Boehner insiders argue, and you have one of the most productive sessions of Congress in a long time.”
– Didn’t the current occupant run against a “do-nothing” congress?
Boehner (I pronounce it “Boner”) works mostly through the back room deal. Sure he’s gotten stuff done, as long as the current occupant signed off before he would let it come to a vote.
” “I don’t think any other speaker could’ve gotten anything more out of this White House,” said House GOP chief deputy whip Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.).”
– Maybe a speaker who wasn’t a squish could have gotten the Obamas out of the White House.
“Others counter that would immediately make Boehner a lame duck and harm his No. 2 and potential successor, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, because agitators would have time to organize against the California Republican.”
– We can only hope.
Next to get the boot: Mitch McConnell!
If it were to happen it will be purely circular and symbolic and mean nothing, the damage is done the agenda is moved ahead. This kind of thinking is the kind of thinking that is laid out for all to get on board with, no original thinking, nothing empowering to be found here the Republicrats survive to undermine the Constitution even further.
Your understanding of the process that picks a speaker is lacking. If Boehner can’t get enough Republican votes to remain as speaker, the Republicans will simply find someone who can. Under no condition will any majority political party permit anything else from happening. They always have the votes to make the speaker someone of their party. They won’t sit still for any one, like Boehner, trying to use Democratic votes to survive. If he does so, the Republicans will dump him.
If Boehner is dumped because of pressure imposed by the conservative tea party wing of the Republican Party, it empowers that wing in future negotiations on any legislation. Thus, dumping Boehner is not “purely circular and symbolic and mean nothing.” It will make a significant difference in how the House Republicans approach future legislation and the opposition of the Democrats.
Defeatism like you express here is why we haven’t moved forward effectively. Too many people, like Boehner and McConnell, don’t try because they think it won’t make a difference.
Would love to see Boehner axed, but short of a scandal in his personal life, it’s unlikely enough Republicans would have the guts. Politicians are generally a risk-averse crowd.
“IF” is such a tiny little word that has such very large implications in the sentences it is used. IF Bohner is removed and replaced by a similarly minded speaker then the exercise is circular and meaningless. IF Bruce Jenner wasn’t a woman he would be a man.
Recent political history supports my interpretation of reality much better than your interpretation.
Let me improve my sentence for you: “If it were to happen it will be purely circular and symbolic and mean nothing” Unless Bohner is replaced by someone NOT controlled by the current Republican leadership.
In order for your model to be realized Republican leadership from the top down, and I mean very strong Conservative leadership from the president down, must be changed. If not the same thing will happen, leadership will be threatened and leveraged into doing nothing of consequence in opposition to what appears to be Obamas and the Democrats domination of the Republicans and further disruption of the entire world.
Thankfully Obama is heading for the end of his reign of Marxist / Socialist appeasement, enemy empowerment and general wonderfulness on the world. We can only imagine what those last months and weeks will contain. What those days probably will not contain is true, rock solid and principled opposition from the Republicans.
Remember this conversation and we will revisit it in the coming months.
I think this reasoning is precisely why John McCain and Mitt Romney were the republican nominees and Jeb Bush is still being pushed as a candidate. The Republican party leaders felt that when faced with a choice between a democrat or a flawed republican, they would be forced to vote for the lesser of two evils. They failed to consider that there was a third choice; stay home. Therein lies the rub. We’ve been saddled with the greater of two evils now for two terms.
If Jeb Bush is the republican nominee, I can predict several things:
1. The country will remember that we didn’t need the federalists, we didn’t need the whigs, and we don’t NEED the republicans.
2. We will have a third party, and it will be named “republican”
3. The next president will not be a republican. (The democrat leadership is counting on this)
1st. Jeb Bush is not going to be the candidate. (neither is Hillary, they just have not answered the phone call from the new reality yet. If either one of them do become the president then we will all understand that WE The People are chattel and are participating in a reality fantasy presented to us by our owners and the fantasy goes on .)
2nd. If a standard republican flavored politician is the next president your prognostication may well be the future of the republican party.
3rd. The next president of the Untied States MUST be a true leader of men and nations, a person of force of vision who employs a benevolent and reasonable character and has a fundamental connection to the Constitution. And that person is more than likely going to be TRUMP, as “Childish” as he may be to some. That is what the country and the world MUST have in order to move forward in an optimistic manner.
Not optimistic? I am most optimistic but I also recognize reality and the exercise of power for what it is.
A leadership tid bit, Trump makes an observation about CNN and the debates, which I totally agree with, and drags the liberal media through its own hypocrisy. You have got to love it.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/253047-trump-calls-on-cnn-to-donate-debate-money-to-veterans
Most people who have grown up in America would not recognize true leadership in their politicians if it fell on them. They would tend to interpret true leadership as being “partisan” or “unequal”, both terms being a sideways or negative type of thinking. True leadership has been characterized as being “bad” and that characterization goes to the continued empowerment of the status quo political atmosphere.
I say, No MORE!
And again:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/09/08/donald-trump-amateur-hour-iran-nuclear-deal-column/71884090/
Who else is saying these truths in such a plain and forceful manner and also offers the solutions, HIM ?
Cotour wrote:
“The damage has been done, what material difference would / will it make?”
Obama still has another 16 months to wreak his havoc. Much damage is done, but he wants to inflict even more. If Congress can stop or impede further damage, then that is a great material difference.
We may have lost our freedom of commerce, now that we are forced to purchase insurance whether or not we want to. We may be losing our safety, now that his agreement with Iran guarantees (by his own admission) that they will get the bomb in a few short years. But we still have our freedom of speech and some of our freedom of religion.
Either or both of those could be gone in his remaining 16 months.