Police seize guns of Missouri couple used to defend their home from rioters
They’re coming for you next: St. Louis police today used a warrant to search the home of the Missouri couple and seize the weapons they had used to ward off threatening rioters last month.
Authorities in St. Louis executed a search warrant Friday evening at the home of Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the couple who made headlines last month when they took up arms to defend their homes from protesters. During the search, police seized the rifle that Mark McCloskey was shown holding during the June 28 incident, KSDK-TV of St. Louis reported, citing information from a source.
The pistol that Patricia McCloskey held during the June confrontation was already in the possession of the couple’s attorney, the station reported.
There was no immediate indication that the McCloskeys were arrested or charged with a crime. [emphasis mine]
It appears to me that their only crime was that they are white and that they took up arms to defend their lives and home from a group of trespassers linked to Black Lives Matter/Antifa.
It might be possible that they did not have the guns legally (in the original video it clearly appeared they, especially the woman, had never held or used guns before). Nonetheless, they hurt no one, they were on their own property, the protesters were trespassers, and those trespassers had also made actual threats against them, their property, and even their dog. Their description of what happened matches well with the videos available.
In the June incident, Patricia McCloskey said, the couple was startled just before dinnertime when “300 to 500 people” entered the gated community where they live. “[They said] that they were going to kill us,” Patricia McCloskey told Hannity on Monday night. “They were going to come in there. They were going to burn down the house. They were going to be living in our house after I was dead, and they were pointing to different rooms and said, ‘That’s going to be my bedroom and that’s going to be the living room and I’m going to be taking a shower in that room’.”
So what does the local Democratic government do? Do they prosecute any rioters? No, they release them, and then go after these citizens to deny them the ability to defend themselves.
The McCloskeys fortunately have enough resources to hire a security company to protect themselves. Other ordinary citizens in St. Louis however be warned. If you take action to defend yourself, your local Democratic politicians will come after you. And they will move to disarm you so you will be helpless to the mob.
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They’re coming for you next: St. Louis police today used a warrant to search the home of the Missouri couple and seize the weapons they had used to ward off threatening rioters last month.
Authorities in St. Louis executed a search warrant Friday evening at the home of Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the couple who made headlines last month when they took up arms to defend their homes from protesters. During the search, police seized the rifle that Mark McCloskey was shown holding during the June 28 incident, KSDK-TV of St. Louis reported, citing information from a source.
The pistol that Patricia McCloskey held during the June confrontation was already in the possession of the couple’s attorney, the station reported.
There was no immediate indication that the McCloskeys were arrested or charged with a crime. [emphasis mine]
It appears to me that their only crime was that they are white and that they took up arms to defend their lives and home from a group of trespassers linked to Black Lives Matter/Antifa.
It might be possible that they did not have the guns legally (in the original video it clearly appeared they, especially the woman, had never held or used guns before). Nonetheless, they hurt no one, they were on their own property, the protesters were trespassers, and those trespassers had also made actual threats against them, their property, and even their dog. Their description of what happened matches well with the videos available.
In the June incident, Patricia McCloskey said, the couple was startled just before dinnertime when “300 to 500 people” entered the gated community where they live. “[They said] that they were going to kill us,” Patricia McCloskey told Hannity on Monday night. “They were going to come in there. They were going to burn down the house. They were going to be living in our house after I was dead, and they were pointing to different rooms and said, ‘That’s going to be my bedroom and that’s going to be the living room and I’m going to be taking a shower in that room’.”
So what does the local Democratic government do? Do they prosecute any rioters? No, they release them, and then go after these citizens to deny them the ability to defend themselves.
The McCloskeys fortunately have enough resources to hire a security company to protect themselves. Other ordinary citizens in St. Louis however be warned. If you take action to defend yourself, your local Democratic politicians will come after you. And they will move to disarm you so you will be helpless to the mob.
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
The issue here I see is the police officers – sad to say and a judge -also sad to say but not as unprecedented.
This may be incorrect because we don’t know what the charges were as indicated above. There may be some situation not reported above.
However, if the police simply took the order of the mayor (as implied -we don’t know) and then executed a “search warrant” then there is really something amiss. And much more serious than not arresting rioters. This is using the police to target citizens who really did their level best to hold off a mob during a time where demonstrated violence was present and demonstrated police stand-downs occurred.
To my knowledge police are supposed to take oaths to follow laws- ie follow the Constitution. To my knowledge each state has an individual oath. The police power is in the state generally, not the federal government. However the oath is not to the mayor – it is to the constitution. I suspect this order is clearly unconstitutional and the police should have objected to this and not followed the order.. The judge should have not issued this either.
IFF this is what has happened it is very serious. This is politicization of authority and that is real danger.
From the article: “On Monday, the McCloskeys appeared on Fox News’ ‘Hannity’ and disclosed that protesters had returned to their neighborhood July 3”
Clearly, this is Gardner’s way of saying “shut up!”
https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/midnight-repost-what-ever-you-do-dont-shut-up/
Well Elon Musk notoriously put flamethrowers in the news a while back, and per this link they are legal in every state except of course California.
https://www.online-paralegal-programs.com/what-states-are-flamethrowers-legal-in/
So I would suggest the McCloskeys get some of them instead. I suspect they’d be a far better deterrent to a mob too, because you could puff out some flames to make the point you are armed (a la Alien : ), and a sheet of fire will get EVERYONE within reach, not just a few, so a mob is really no more a threat then an individual.
Also, my personal opinion is they had every right to do what they did, but made one mistake. They never should have leveled their guns at the mob unless they entered their yard. They had the right to given the situation, but doing so gave the panzies a reason to cast them as the bad actors.
Their Right to protect their lives and property aside, you have got to admit that they were poorly trained in how to handle those weapons and they posed a threat not only to the “Protestors” but to themselves.
You NEVER point weapon loaded or otherwise at or in the direction of ANYONE. The wife was frantic pointing her pistol at the protestors, and the husband was more likely to cut his own wife in half by how he was handling his AK.
They should have stayed in their house or displayed their weapons, pointing up or to the ground, while standing in their doorway or similar.
If you are going have such implements in your possession you need to spend the time to get some degree of proper instruction in their use and have some idea of a plan of action / strategy given any number of scenarios.
Do they have a Right to protect themselves? Absolutely, but they IMO posed an unreasonable threat to those protestors who knew well what they were doing. And that is what any prosecutor who might prosecute them will be focusing on.
Shades of the Michael Strickland self-defense case, of Portland Oregon 2016.
It’s the three part system of political repression, perfected by the Segregated South 130 years ago, and recycled by todays Woke Kommissariat.
Part one is creation of a masked mob of political extremists, to threaten or beat-up political dissidents. Part two is holding back the police force, so the masked mob can do its work unimpeded. Part three is prosecuting any political dissidents who dare to exercise their right of self-defense when they are attacked by the mob.
The real rot, the real threat, is not from the mob. The masked mob (sometimes unwittingly), is just a tool of politically-extremist politicians who abuse the police power.
I bet the McCloskeys are died in the wool Democrats. Giving thousands.
More than likely they even gave to the prosecutors campaign.
Wonder if they will wake up and change their ways.
@pzatchok: “I bet the McCloskeys are died in the wool Democrats. Giving thousands.”
I don’t see how it is relevant, but here is his FEC records, which shows a lot of Trump donations: https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=mark+mccloskey&contributor_city=st+louis
(It’s always bothered me that such records are publicly available, given how in many environments people are shamed for association with certain political parties. I also don’t think it appropriate for election supervisors to share voter’s party affiliation.)
I stand corrected.
Now its just embarrassing they need more fire arms handling classes.
I have never agreed with the confiscation of firearms without a guilty verdict.
Whats to stop them from just going out and getting more? Nothing. So why do it in the first place?
Chris–
I know what you mean, but that’s not how it works. (Police officers fidelity to their State Constitution akin to a Soldier’s fidelity to the Federal Constitution.)
((if you’re thinking, the Police have a responsibility to not carry out unconstitutional ‘orders, the same way a soldier can refuse to carry out obviously illegal orders from a superior.)
Police investigate (alleged) crimes, the district-attorney prosecutes (alleged) crimes.
The district-attorney (or equivalent) prepares a probable-cause search warrant and that is presented to a Judge who must sign off on it. Thanks to the endless War On Drugs, the bar is pretty low.
–It’s so low, it should scare everyone.
(the average citizen, commits 3 felonies a day. this is partially why the Administrative State is so insidious– they can get you on almost anything. They just have to want to….)
The Judge is supposed to be the check on an over zealous district-attorney.
(The search-warrant is a public document– you should be able to get a copy. We would need to know which specific Court has jurisdiction, and who signed off on it.)
When the Judge signs the search-warrant it’s considered valid & lawful on its face and the Police carry out the search-warrant.
—it’s only when you have your ‘day-in-court,’ that your lawyer can go to work and undo stuff.
MDN–
here you go–
Dancing Pigeons
‘Ritalin’
2010
https://youtu.be/ZziLdaAaRIg
3:30
“A foreboding yet strangely humorous depiction of a seemingly pointless modern day sword fight, shot at 1000fps.”
wayne pointed out: “… the bar is pretty low. –It’s so low, it should scare everyone.”
The Micheal Flynn case taught us that in today’s America, Obama’s America, the bar is merely that the president, vice president, a prosecutor, or a police officer himself can create his own probable cause, and that a judge can demand that even a defendant who declares his own innocence is also probable cause — and even proof of guilt — allowing the biased and over-zealous judge to act as prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. So much for the judge being a check to prevent over-zealous persecution.
Yeah. Everyone should be scared.
“Thanks to the endless War On Drugs, …”
Didn’t the book “1984” also have an endless war that rationalized government’s overbearing, overreaching Great Oppression?
We’ve always been at war with Oceania.
Insert Russia here….
Avoids any discussion of Chinese predation in the media and creates a false enemy.
The Man in the High Castle
“We Pledge Allegiance…”
https://youtu.be/H4UHqFoB_5k?t=60
The Death of Stalin
(2017)
“I have documents on all of you”
https://youtu.be/–HXlMZvdl8
2:49
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
Ayn Rand – Atlas Shrugged