Today’s blacklisted American: Mayor in Colorado bans pledge of allegiance and anyone who dares recite it during public comments
Doesn’t exist in Silverton, Colorado.
The mayor of Silverton, Colorado, Shane Fuhrman, unilaterally decided during a public trustee meeting that the pledge of allegiance was now banned, saying he did so because of some “direct and indirect threats, inappropriate comments in and out of public meetings and general divisiveness and issues created in our community.”
One trustee immediately challenged Fuhrman’s ruling, noting that the trustees had voted in favor of reciting the pledge at an earlier meeting, and that the mayor had no right to rescind that vote unilaterally. Fuhrman shrugged and demanded a citation of some law saying he couldn’t do it.
When someone insisted on using their comment period to recite the pledge anyway (with the rest of the audience and some officials joining in), Fuhrman, who wa elected by a margin of only 10 votes, threatened to have them removed for daring to exercise their first amendment rights by doing so.
A video of these events is embedded below.
Recognize what has happened here. A government elected official has decided he has the power to determine what people can say at a public meeting, and if he doesn’t like it he has the right to silence them and remove them, even to the point of having them arrested for doing so. This makes the government in Silverton no different than any other dictatorship anywhere else in the world. There is no freedom of speech, since the whole point of the first amendment was to give ordinary citizens the right to air their grievances against the government, at any time, at any place, for any reason. In Silverton this jack-booted member has decided such things as freedom of speech cannot be allowed.
We must also consider the actual words of the pledge that Fuhrman finds so objectionable. Here they are, in plain English:
I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I wonder what Fuhrman objects to in that pledge. Could it be the phrase “with liberty and justice for all”? Maybe he doesn’t like pledging allegiance to the United States, and would rather be a citizen of China? Or maybe he is offended by the words “under God.” My goodness, how horrible.
If Fuhrman’s actions were rare it wouldn’t matter that much. Unfortunately his actions, and apparent hate for America, are now typical in numerous places nationwide where leftist ideologues control local governments. Dare to challenge them and they will quickly use the force of law to have you arrested. And the police are glad to oblige, following orders like any good concentration camp guard.
As I quoted Rudy Giuliani yesterday, “America is not America any longer. We do not live in a free state.”
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
Doesn’t exist in Silverton, Colorado.
The mayor of Silverton, Colorado, Shane Fuhrman, unilaterally decided during a public trustee meeting that the pledge of allegiance was now banned, saying he did so because of some “direct and indirect threats, inappropriate comments in and out of public meetings and general divisiveness and issues created in our community.”
One trustee immediately challenged Fuhrman’s ruling, noting that the trustees had voted in favor of reciting the pledge at an earlier meeting, and that the mayor had no right to rescind that vote unilaterally. Fuhrman shrugged and demanded a citation of some law saying he couldn’t do it.
When someone insisted on using their comment period to recite the pledge anyway (with the rest of the audience and some officials joining in), Fuhrman, who wa elected by a margin of only 10 votes, threatened to have them removed for daring to exercise their first amendment rights by doing so.
A video of these events is embedded below.
Recognize what has happened here. A government elected official has decided he has the power to determine what people can say at a public meeting, and if he doesn’t like it he has the right to silence them and remove them, even to the point of having them arrested for doing so. This makes the government in Silverton no different than any other dictatorship anywhere else in the world. There is no freedom of speech, since the whole point of the first amendment was to give ordinary citizens the right to air their grievances against the government, at any time, at any place, for any reason. In Silverton this jack-booted member has decided such things as freedom of speech cannot be allowed.
We must also consider the actual words of the pledge that Fuhrman finds so objectionable. Here they are, in plain English:
I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I wonder what Fuhrman objects to in that pledge. Could it be the phrase “with liberty and justice for all”? Maybe he doesn’t like pledging allegiance to the United States, and would rather be a citizen of China? Or maybe he is offended by the words “under God.” My goodness, how horrible.
If Fuhrman’s actions were rare it wouldn’t matter that much. Unfortunately his actions, and apparent hate for America, are now typical in numerous places nationwide where leftist ideologues control local governments. Dare to challenge them and they will quickly use the force of law to have you arrested. And the police are glad to oblige, following orders like any good concentration camp guard.
As I quoted Rudy Giuliani yesterday, “America is not America any longer. We do not live in a free state.”
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
I’d like to know who’s pulling his chain.
@Dave in Denver
Marx himself, from the lowest rung of hell.
Boy, I would dare him to arrest me and if he did sue the bejesus out of him personally. How could you lose?
Shame we stopped tarring and feathering political [deleted] like this.
“I’d like to know who’s pulling his chain.” @ Dave in Denver
I’m wondering the same thing. In the February 4th 2021 Time magazine there was a detailed article bragging how the left formed a cabal of powerful people to cheat and win the 2020 presidential election. It got me so angry I couldn’t make it past the first paragraph.
The way all of these seemingly disparate people preach the same message leads me to believe the back channel communication method this cabal developed is still in use. It’s amazing how they can keep it secret.
This is the Time article:
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
To me in this age the Pledge of Allegiance has become a battle cry, not just words mumbled before a high school basketball game.
KaD: Why do people have so much trouble reading my simple rules? It states very clearly right above the comment box that obscenities are not allowed. I have deleted it from your post.
You are still welcome to comment here, but in the future watch your language.
KaD: By the way, I am all in with your idea of tarring and feathering Silverton’s mayor. He deserved to be run out of town on a rail.
James Street,
I also thought that Time Mag article was a look through the keyhole into the way The Swamp mobilized to defeat Trump.
BTW I suggest when coming across such articles don’t just save the links.
When they sense something may be embarrassing they are not shy about going into their archives and deleting or rewriting pieces.
Save a copy of the text locally.
It’s full Orwell these days.
Mitch-
Yes– I as well am firm believer in downloading media so I physically have it.
Its actually sorta amazing the amount of stuff I know exists, that I have trouble finding again.
As to Silverton, Co.;
Apparently they have a “weak mayor-council” government set up, so this guy has even less power than he thinks he does.
“Mayor-council government is one of the five major types of municipal government found in cities and towns throughout the United States. The other four are Council-Manager, Commission, Town Meeting and Representative Town Meeting. Mayor-council government can be broadly divided into two types: strong and weak. The difference centers on the scope of the mayor’s executive authority and legal power.”
https://ballotpedia.org/Mayor-council_government
Man in the High Castle
“The death of Reichsführer Shane Fuhrman”
https://youtu.be/tdPStjdd4TA
2:13
Star Trek, S1E22
Return of the Archons
“You will be absorbed…”
https://youtu.be/XCOm7SyRA5k?t=75
One more reason for Alabama to get Space Force…you won’t have to worry about us having Rods From God.
Thinking about Vice-President Al ‘No Controlling Legal Authority’ Gore.
The real problem is that this is only a small example of what is going on through out every “government” organization at every level
from town to federal. Our total “government” has been stolen by idiots like this and this is NOT what the great majority of Americans
want from their “government”.
Invective used in the defense of America? Gosh no, let’s force our side to hold back, not communicate, hide our anger and just sit under the desk and wait for the Left to allow us some crumbs.
In my opinion, if he won’t declare his allegiance to the USA then his authority, which derives directly and solely from the contract with and between all American citizens, then he is admitting he has no right to order any USA citizen to do anything. His Town’s laws do not exist, his County’s laws do not exist, his State’s laws do not exist except under the umbrella of the national agreement we call the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Even Federal laws derive from the consent of the people to adhere to the original contract which formed this nation.
LTC SDS
June 29, 2021 at 4:15 pm
How could you lose?
By being sent to the set of judges who agree with this mayor that the Constitution is only so much old printed twaddle and you’ll be ruled by their ideas of virtue and vice.
KaD
June 29, 2021 at 6:35 pm
Shame we stopped tarring and feathering
Absolutely. Though, Robert, “running out of town on a rail” is a different punishment. It did accompany tarring and feathering at times, and is useful both with and without. Too bad some mamby-pambies have decided both of those were “cruel and unusual” when actually they were very fitting.
“What is Tar and Feathering?”
John Reda
Journal of the American Revolution (Aug 2012)
https://youtu.be/XtIAJ8_Vjkc
3:02
Talking about mayors:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nyc-elections-2021/ny-nyc-primary-election-boe-trump-20210630-dmjikmcxdref3kjp7ithitmwh4-story.html
NYC just went to the ranked candidate system, which IMO as I pointed out previously is just one more aspect of the election system that can be manipulated by the Board Of Elections and the now Leftist NYC political power machine.
Its all fixed at some level and when the ability of the electorate and what they want in politics was able to be loaded into a digital format all fairness if it ever existed was thrown out the window to a very great degree.
Where does 100K plus “Test Votes” come from? And what is their real purpose?
I think beginning with the Arizona audit this and many many more elections will be all revealed to be FRAUDULENT or perverted in some wat shape or form.
And the first one to fall in a recent state election? Now Senator, John Ossoff (D / Leftist) in Georgia when the Fulton county audit is performed. And that will be coming soon to the great despair of the clearly corrupt Democrat Georgia political machine.
Its coming.
This mayor should not be mayor, and for a simple reason. A mayor in the U.S., from that of New York City to the smallest village, has some unstated but (until now) clearly understood obligations. They’re obligated of course to work on the problems their city/village has and not go haring off on ‘social justice’ or other such twaddle. They’re obligated to respect their local citizens, all of them, particularly since they’re rubbing elbows with them daily. They’re obligated to ensure that fundamental local rights are protected.
And they’re obligated to have a fundamental belief in and admiration for the system that put them in office. You may fairly recognize that America isn’t perfect, but if you truly believe that America is evil then you shouldn’t be a mayor. Mayors are, along with the elders, the merchants, the farmers, and the local professionals, part of the petit-bourgeois that make a western system work, from village to nation.
Perhaps the goal of this mayor is to destroy that. Very well — but be prepared not to be mayor, sir, and perhaps to suffer much more penalty than that.
Would they allow you to stand up at the meeting and say, “I refuse to recite this because it was written by a filthy, anti-American socialist.”?
Is the book written like this sentence: “The vision that Zimmerman paints of vibrant human colonies on the Moon, Mars, the asteroids, and beyond, indomitably fighting the harsh lifeless environment of space to build new societies, captures perfectly the emerging space race we see today”? How can a vision of colonies that don’t exist perfectly capture a space race that does not involve any such colonies?
Cotour–
I just heard recently in passing that NY went to the ranked system, thanks for bringing that up.
Yes– it’s a way to control the outcome. All voting methodologies have pro’s & cons,[physically conducting an election is one thing, that has it’s own set of criminality, equally powerful however is controlling the choices one is allowed to vote upon.] historically we’ve always trended toward the most-votes-win within generally a 2 party system. Then we deal with the problems associated with that particular system by dispersing power amongst those that are elected.
It all has to do translating “the will of the people” into the most “clean” actual real choice, without artificially manipulating the choices that are presented to the people..
{It’s always a mole hunt, and it’s always the man behind the curtain, so to speak.}
->The Voting Paradox:
-“Voting is non-transitive, and voting is subject to cycling.
-Majority Rule in pair-wise comparisons, does not lead to a single outcome.
-“Majority Rules,” is actually “Rock, Paper, Scissors.”
Arrow’s Impossibility Theorem
https://youtu.be/GzLY8pLU95c
9:15
“In social choice theory, Arrow’s impossibility theorem, the General Possibility Theorem or Arrow’s paradox is an Impossibility theorem stating that when voters have three or more distinct alternatives (options), no *ranked order voting system can convert the ranked preferences of individuals into a community-wide (complete and transitive) ranking while also meeting a pre-specified set of criteria.* –>These pre-specified criteria are called “unrestricted domain,” “non-dictatorship,” “Pareto efficiency,” and “independence of irrelevant alternatives.”
->The theorem is named after economist Kenneth Arrow, who demonstrated the theorem in his doctoral thesis and in his 1951 book; Social Choice and Individual Values.
“By any means necessary”.
I think that is how it goes.
And they, the Democrat politically empowered operatives, do not understand, they are just making Trump more and more powerful, they can not stop what is coming.
They can not as a group control their natural reflex actions and abuse of power. Its the nature of the beast.
From above:
“The Manhattan district attorney’s office plans to charge the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer with tax-related crimes on Thursday, The Wall Street Journal reported.”
Cotour-
Question: How many candidates are running for NYC Mayor?
–apparently, under ranked order voting, the only thing you can do as a voter to thrown a wrench in the manipulation, is to only vote for your 1st candidate.
“The Probability of a Condorcet Paradox in Ranked Order Voting”
Eric Pacuit 2015
https://youtu.be/EISE6oruBYY
14:49
Related:
“In a local qualifying race for the World Road Cycling League, the motorcyclist crushed the previous 100-mile record of 3 hours, 13 minutes with his amazing new score of well under an hour.
Professional motorcycle racer Judd E. Banner, the brave trans-vehicle rider, was allowed to race after he told league organizers he’s always felt like a bicyclist in a motorcyclist’s body.
“Look, my ride has handlebars, two wheels, and a seat,” he told reporters as he accepted a trophy for his incredible time trial. “Just because I’ve got a little extra hardware, such as an 1170-cc flat-twin engine with 110 horsepower, doesn’t mean I have any kind of inherent advantage here.” (BB)
Related:
“U.S.—Presidential candidate and Senator Bernie Sanders offered words of praise for China’s successful reduction of poverty in many parts of the country by killing off all the poor people through government control of the economy.”
“America still has a lot of poor people, and that’s because we haven’t been aggressive in implementing socialist programs that cause mass starvation,” (BB)