Scroll down to read this post.


Please consider supporting my work here at Behind The Black by giving either a one-time contribution or a regular subscription, in any one of the following ways:


1. Zelle: This is the only internet method that charges no fees. All you have to do is use the Zelle link at your internet bank and give my name and email address (zimmerman at nasw dot org). What you donate is what I get.


2. Patreon: Go to my website there and pick one of five monthly subscription amounts, or by making a one-time donation.

3. A Paypal Donation:

4. A Paypal subscription:

5. Donate by check, payable to Robert Zimmerman and mailed to
Behind The Black
c/o Robert Zimmerman
P.O.Box 1262
Cortaro, AZ 85652

Typical but still mysterious gullies in a crater on Mars

Gullies on crater interior wall

Today’s cool image to the right, cropped and reduced to post here, is of a crater in the mid-latitudes of Mars’s cratered southern highlands. The picture was taken on January 4, 2021 by the high resolution camera on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO), and is actually the only high resolution image ever taken of this crater.

The gullies in the north interior wall of this crater are the reason why this picture was snapped. These gullies are very typical on the pole-facing slopes of mid-latitude Martian craters, and have puzzled scientists since they were first discovered in the late 1990s in images taken by Mars Global Surveyor. Since then, thousands have been found, almost all of which in the 30 to 60 degree mid-latitude bands where glacial features are also found. Most occur on the more shadowed pole-facing interior slopes of the craters, though at higher latitudes they are also found facing the equator.

Since their discovery scientists have puzzled over their cause, which because of their locations favoring colder temperatures suggest some form of seasonal weather factor. The most preferred hypotheses propose some interaction with water ice or dry ice, or are simply dry flows of rocky granular material. None of these hypotheses have been confirmed. Some evidence suggests they are dry flows, no water involved. Other evidence points to the influence of an underground layer of water ice.

The mystery of these gullies is enhanced by by the wider view from MRO’s context camera below, rotated and cropped to post here.

Wider view
Click for full image.

First, the largest gullies in this crater, as seen in the high resolution image, all suggest a sudden release of material that as it washed down it poured over what appears to be a crater floor covered with buried and eroding glacial material. Yet, it also is quite possible that despite their appearance these gullies did not form in a single sudden event, but slowly over time as many tiny events that accumulated their debris at their base.

The subject crater in the context image to the right is at the top. Note the randomly shaped hollows to the crater’s south. What caused them? Are they evidence of a layered terrain where the upper layers have eroded away haphazardly in some places? Could it be that there are ice layers below the ground here that not only cause the gullies but are also indicated by the wide flat canyons to the south?

Yet, if you look at the full context image you will see that to the north the terrain is instead flat and smooth, with no such shallow canyons. If there were underground ice layers here shouldn’t evidence of them be visible to the north as well? Or is this location a transition point?

Lots of questions and no answers. The real explanation for these gullies and the surrounding terrain will likely require a visit and some hands on analysis.

The one takeaway that favors the existence of underground ice at this location however is the preponderance of gullies in that those 30-60 degree mid-latitude glacial bands, as shown by the global map below, taken from this paper.

The global distribution of Martian gullies
Click for full image.

The blue circles indicate poleward-facing gullies, yellow east/west facing gullies, and red equatorward facing gullies.

It is in these bands where there appears to be lots of evidence of glacial water ice very near the surface. It is thus quite reasonable for water ice to also exist near the surface but deeper down, in ice layers that form part of the terrain’s basic geology.

If so, the evidence continues to suggest that finding water on Mars will never be a big problem. Instead, the issue will simply be how to dig it up and process it so that it is potable.


Conscious Choice cover

Now available in hardback and paperback as well as ebook!


From the press release: In this ground-breaking new history of early America, historian Robert Zimmerman not only exposes the lie behind The New York Times 1619 Project that falsely claims slavery is central to the history of the United States, he also provides profound lessons about the nature of human societies, lessons important for Americans today as well as for all future settlers on Mars and elsewhere in space.

Conscious Choice: The origins of slavery in America and why it matters today and for our future in outer space, is a riveting page-turning story that documents how slavery slowly became pervasive in the southern British colonies of North America, colonies founded by a people and culture that not only did not allow slavery but in every way were hostile to the practice.  
Conscious Choice does more however. In telling the tragic history of the Virginia colony and the rise of slavery there, Zimmerman lays out the proper path for creating healthy societies in places like the Moon and Mars.


“Zimmerman’s ground-breaking history provides every future generation the basic framework for establishing new societies on other worlds. We would be wise to heed what he says.” —Robert Zubrin, founder of founder of the Mars Society.


All editions are available at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and all book vendors, with the ebook priced at $5.99 before discount. The ebook can also be purchased direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit, in which case you don't support the big tech companies and I get a bigger cut much sooner.


Autographed printed copies are also available at discount directly from me (hardback $24.95; paperback $14.95; Shipping cost for either: $5.00). Just email me at zimmerman @ nasw dot org.

One comment

  • Greg the Geologist

    My best guess is an accumulation of dust or very fine sand, wind-blown, that had exceeded its angle of repose, then simply failed or failed during a marsquake. Note the little dunes around the crater floor, and possible dune formation on the floor itself (though hummocky without a dominant wind direction). Keeping an open mind of course!

Readers: the rules for commenting!


No registration is required. I welcome all opinions, even those that strongly criticize my commentary.


However, name-calling and obscenities will not be tolerated. First time offenders who are new to the site will be warned. Second time offenders or first time offenders who have been here awhile will be suspended for a week. After that, I will ban you. Period.


Note also that first time commenters as well as any comment with more than one link will be placed in moderation for my approval. Be patient, I will get to it.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published.