Leftist backed by socialist Ocasio-Cortez wins in Queens


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They’re coming for you next: A leftist candidate, Tiffany Cabán, backed by socialists Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York) and Senator Bernie Sanders (D-Vermont), has won an election for Queens District Attorney in New York.

Cabán, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s preferred pick for the office, garnered 39.5% of the vote compared to Democratic rival Melinda Katz’s 38.3% with 98% of precincts reporting.

…Cabán is a 31-year-old public defender who wants to decriminalize sex work, close Rikers Island and end cash bail. The young lawyer was joined on stage with city Comptroller Scott Stringer and state Sen. Jessica Ramos.

The election was close enough that they will do a recount, but I don’t think that will change the result, which clearly shows that New Yorkers have not been put off in the slightest by Ocasio-Cortez’s extreme leftist positions, as many conservative pundits have assumed. If anything, her upfront willingness to push her beliefs, no matter our senseless or impractical or ignorant, have garnered her side more support.

I am reminded again of this quote from Walter Miller’s great end-of-the-world science fiction novel, A Canticle for Leibowitz:

Listen, are we helpless? Are we doomed to do it again and again and again? Have we no choice but to play the Phoenix in an unending sequence of rise and fall? Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Carthage, Rome, the Empires of Charlemagne and the Turk. Ground to dust and plowed with salt. Spain, France, Britain, America–burned into the oblivion of the centuries. And again and again and again.

Are we doomed to it, Lord, chained to the pendulum of our own mad clockwork, helpless to halt its swing?

It doesn’t seem to matter that communism, socialism, fascism, Nazism, all top-down authoritarian systems no matter what their name or design, have consistently failed, and failed horribly, causing the deaths of millions and millions. Worse, these failures have not been in the distant past, but within the lifetimes of almost everyone living today. Several (Venezuela and North Korea) are occurring right this minute.

Yet, Americans want to try it for themselves. Sadly, they (and we) will reap the whirlwind, for it will fail again, as horribly as it has every other time.

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  • Cotour

    Apathy and low voter turnout are the best friends of the Progressive Left. See my post related to what is going on today in Seattle. This is the Progressive big city agenda in application, and it ain’t pretty.

    This is underway in Los Angles, San Francisco, Seattle and now will commence in earnest in Queens New York. The drug addled live freely without consequence on the streets of these cities and the police are unable to properly deal with them and arrest and prosecute them. A prosecution that many of these people need to free them from the world of crime, drugs and death they exist in and are unable to free themselves from.

    This ability of the Leftists to garner political power through the apathy and low turnout of the citizens is a fundamental problem that will result in the destruction of all and everything that is good. All in the name of “Compassion”. Pure strategy Over Morality in practice, right under the noses of those good people who will pay for this destruction with their own taxes.

    In Seattle the drug addicted with mental problems are arrested 50, 60, 70 plus times and are on the street before the arresting officer is back on the street. 18 out of 100 arrests result in a prosecution in Seattle. Good arrests basically thrown out the window by city policy and prosecutors which results in massive lawlessness.

    This is the sickness of the Progressive Liberal Leftist agenda. What is it really about? Its just about the acquisition of power, thats it. What happens after that is chaos and the destruction of communities of the good people of America.

    And that ain’t Progress as the Liberal Democrats who are selling this crap indicate.

  • Dave Walden

    The rise (and fall!!) of all welfare/warfare states, is predicated on the moral answer to the political question, “what is the proper role of government.”
    In response to Barry Goldwater’s defeat by Lyndon Johnson in 1964, Ayn Rand responded as follows – and I am paraphrasing:
    “The Progressives will come to defeat the Conservatives; the Liberals will defeat the Progressives; the Socialists will defeat the Liberals; and the Communists will defeat the Socialists.
    I have never forgotten her insight, as, over the span of my lifetime, the country (the world!!), remorselessly, seems to be following her forecast. Her answer as to why? “Unless the MORAL ideal of altruism is challenged and rejected, the POLITICAL results are entirely predictable.”
    Government’s SOLE reason for existence must be the protection of individual rights. It MUST NOT be seen as empowered to provide/administer “welfare” – in whatever incarnation, nor to initiate war on behalf of its alleged “interests.”1964 campaign.
    “I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is “needed” before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents’ “interests,” I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.”

    As for its “interests,” I am reminded of a memorable quote from Goldwater’s

  • Phill O

    The rise of the liberals (progressives) in local politics is frightening. We see it all across North America. We (I) have been so focused on federal issues, we (I) have neglected the heart of the situation. We (I) mus refocus on local issues without neglecting the federal systems. IMHO

  • Peter Francis

    As politics is downstream from culture (Breibart), so may local politics be downstream from national politics. That said the pervasive social media/media complex infuses an osmosis between the 2 politics.

  • Gene Shipp

    As Christians our purpose is, God has given us a job see, to share the gospel with as many as possible so that all can be saved who will let themselves be saved. Capitalism has spread His plan of salvation farther and wider than any other way through its freedoms.

    Is it wearisome? Yes.
    But He is the one who decides when we quit. Because we are His servants.

  • Wodun

    Marxism is the confluence of the naive and well meaning with totalitarian psychopaths. It can not be any other way because the system is designed to allow the relationship to flourish.

    In an ideal world, the naive would learn from history, experience, and the outcomes of their preferred policies and engage in outcome based altruism. But most of them don’t care about the outcomes and instead focus on whethet or not they are “doing the right thing”. The emphasis isn’t on the outcome but the action. Also, Marxist organizations are really good at hiding outcomes because squelching dissent and dissemination of knowledge are activities that attract the pyschopaths.

    This is why the Democrat’s Technocrats are working so hard to implement a fascist system of governance that exists outside of our current one.

  • Cotour

    Precisely, the word is “Psychopaths”.

    If they do not start out that way they must soon conform to being one as their psychopath leaders execute their strategy to acquire or retain power.

    Yes, Psychopaths is the word. Very good.

  • “Yet, Americans want to try it for themselves. ”

    How many people who vote for these candidates do you think identify as Americans? I’d wager a month’s pay (because I have a job), that if you asked one of these constituents how they describe themselves, you’d go far down the list before they got to ‘American’, if at all. Generations of pervasive Progressive indoctrination has produced a populace given only to identity-politics self-interest.

  • Keith

    Cotour’s comment, “Apathy and low voter turnout are the best friends of the Progressive Left”, is actually embedded into the politics of NY and NJ. The state wide elections are always held in odd years, not corresponding to the national elections.

    And the electoral apathy in these off years around here is vast. That’s one of the main reasons these loony liberals run everything around here. The majority of people that get out to vote for these elections are their hard core base. Most of the rest of us have jobs and family lives.

  • Keith wrote, “The majority of people that get out to vote for these elections are their hard core base. Most of the rest of us have jobs and family lives.”

    Are you saying that having a job and a family is an excuse to be an irresponsible citizen? Because that’s what it seems you are saying.

    In truth having a job and a family is the reason you must vote. Otherwise, we get another Weimar Republic, and we all know where that led.

  • m d mill

    Well (and poetically) said.
    It seems historically that those generations who work mightily to create great and prosperous societies are inevitably replaced by lazier softer generations who then think prosperity and success are simply an easy entitlement to be bequeathed by the state bureaucracy. I think the collapse of most great societies follows this cycle…and the cycle continues.

  • Ian C.

    I recently dug out the books with anti-communist jokes I’ve inherited from grandpa (post-war anti-commie resistance in Europe). It’s both amusing and terrifying how many of those jokes already describe what’s going or what they’ve planned for us when one puts today’s names and (consequences of proposed) policies in. Hidden agendas and centralization of power, removal of civil liberties, double-speak and double standards, tanking economies and mismanagement in the small and the large, scapegoating to explain away failing policies, abuse of the legal system and physical violence, and above all a caste of infallible functionaries and their tools in academia and the media. It’s all there or coming, it’s just not equally distributed yet, but the commies will make sure it is, equality of misery is their profession.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3z3eSVG7A

  • Wodun wrote:

    “The emphasis isn’t on the outcome but the action.”

    Nail, meet hammer. Process-oriented v. goal-oriented. It explains some things.

  • Edward

    Robert wrote: “Yet, Americans want to try it for themselves.

    Sadly, Americans did try it for themselves, four centuries ago, with tragic results. Half of the Plymouth Colony’s population died.

    Unfortunately, today the wrong lessons are being taught about that fiasco. Rather than our schools explain how the American socialist experiment failed and the capitalist system that they tried the following year succeeded wildly, the schools explain how European farmers are not smart enough to grow food, so the Pilgrims had to be shown how to farm by their American Indian — oops — Native American neighbors.

    The schools teach how free market capitalism is bad, because in that economic system some people are poor but aspire to more, and socialism is good, because in that economic system everyone is poor and aspire to nothing more.

  • Keith

    No, Bob. I’m saying most people would rather work and provide for their families and not look to the government for most things in their lives.

  • Kyle

    The only thing I agree with is to close Riker Island. Look up documentaries on it! It’s inhumane! Now look at prisons in Norway and yes they have secured facilities for violent offenders and if you are a violent person you can still go to jail for life. How it works is every 10 years you are ‘evaluated’ and if your evaluation shows your still tendency to be violent then you get another 10 years and another 10 years. :)
    Essentially life and they do have solitary confinement like here in the USA but rarely ever needed and strict conditions follow that.

    So therefore criminals there really have no excuse to be monsters as they will keep getting their sentences extended by their own behavior not by the staff or courts. It’s truly a good way to see if a violent maniac can truly be changed within or not and if not the results show.

  • Kyle

    That’s how democrats work is by playing dirty. They will throw in one good bill that is needed (like closing Riker Island) followed by a bunch of time wasting bills that don’t accomplish anything except drain the economy and push us closer to the UN.

    Biden is a known drunk (at least among older people) it saddens today’s young commies can’t see thru it.

  • Kyle

    Do you really want a President that has been kicked out of bars for starting fights? If anything he will start WW3 with his mouth yelling to the wrong person.

  • Kyle

    The reason most conservatives don’t get their voice in is they are working their butts off. They have families to feed and lives to live. Only liberals and mentally ill watch the news 24/7.

    Conservatives are actual people with hobby interests that are not naughty with naked sex.etc. They have no time to vote at the polls and see it’s worthless as their votes will be thrown out.

  • Cotour

    Kyle, to your points:

    1. Rikers Island is some very valuable real restate, it is located adjacent to the center of the financial universe, NYC. And the fact that the mayor has defanged the police who work there it has become a very dangerous place for the POLICE, not the inmates. And I suspect that in the long run this “Progressive” action by our Communist / Marxist / presidential candidate mayor is related. Just like in Seattle the police are not allowed to do their proper job that all involved badly need. The inmates do to the flipped rational on the part of the politicos are free to attack, injure and maim as they please. Its a question of choosing the proper management system and philosophy and without it you have chaos I.E. our future if it is not stopped.

    2. Yes, politics, especially the politics of the day in America because so much is at stake is as dirty, filthy and desperate as is comes. Joe Biden is in no way a choice of the young Communists, he is an old white cracker that represents everything that they despise. Biden is going nowhere, is just there because the Democrat leadership believe that he is the one that can pander best to the meaty middle class Americans who consider themselves traditional Democrats. The Democrats are in the process of fracturing into three segments right in front of everyones eyes.

    3. Joe Biden is a natural Jackass and I am not certain that he will last to the primary. You keep a close watch on him tonight in the debates, he will attempt to step out and demonstrate that he is a “Leader”. He is neither a leader nor much of anything else other than a Jackass and a gaff machine. Sounds like the perfect puppet for the Democrat leadership and the Chinese. Bidens answers to the following questions will leave him on the floor sweating.

    1. What is your connection between your sons Hedge Fund and the Chinese leadership that “Invested” $1.5 BILLION dollars into it? And

    2. Exactly how long did it take for the Ukrainians to fire the prosecutor that you wanted fired in exchange for their $1 BILLION dollars in loan guarantees?

    And I will throw in this third question: 3. At what point in time did you become aware of the illegal spying against a private citizen that president Obama ordered against Hillarys political rival, D.J. Trump? Now thats a good because of the Barr investigations that will come up with the real answer in time.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/45438/vice-president-joe-biden-bullied-ukraine-firing-ashe-schow

    4. The acquisition of and the retention of political power is where everything in your, my and everyone elses world emanates from and the only way to influence that power is to vote. Period. That is real power that has real consequences on real lives, so ANYONE who is too busy working to vote is ignorant about how our system operates and becomes a danger to all that he or she values and cherishes. And the Leftists are mastering getting their people to the poles, so make a choice.

    This is real and true political warfare, do not look away and hide your head like an Ostrich.

    The French have a saying: You don’t do politics? Then politics will be done to you.

  • wayne

    Cotour–
    Correct me if I’m mistaken– Rikers Island holds local offenders who can’t meet or weren’t given bail, people sentenced to less than 12 months, and people being transferred to other facilities.
    (In Michigan, we call that a jail, ‘prison’ is for people sentenced more than 12 months.)

    You folks that want this detention center closed– how about we ship all of them to YOUR local Jail?
    Or– a much easier solution to drastically reduce the (temporary) population at Riker’s—QUIT arresting people for drug, gambling, or prostitution activities in NYC.

  • wayne

    Cotour–
    Forget to applaud you on point #4.
    If people are too busy to vote, they deserve everything they get.

    Q: Is that Spofford Juvenile Center, still in operation?

  • Cotour

    “QUIT arresting people for drug, gambling, or prostitution activities in NYC.”

    This is the flipped script Seattle model of politically correct / Leftist city destruction.

    Its funny, Bernie Kerick ran Rikers and things under his administration ran pretty well. Its all a matter of management and political will.

    (You watch that video, “Seattle Is Dying”. Towards the end the reason is revealed as to why conditions there has been allowed to deteriorate to the point of disgust, “100 percent of all of the people living on the street are on drugs”. And they all need to be rounded up, incarcerated, dried out and given a chance to recover. Or they are going to die. And this failure to allow the police to do their job is directly anchored in politically correct Liberal / Leftist agenda. An agenda that by design or by accident(?) flips the script and favors law breakers over the law abiding and the tax payer. Insanity, the anti and un American foundation of the Leftist agenda.)

  • Cotour

    The police arrest statistic as per Seattle Is Dying. And this is without doubt what will becoming to Queens NY if Caban is successful.

    Only 18 out of every 100 of all arrests result in any incarceration. Most all arrests, for every kind of offence including rape and violence and illegal drug distribution are thrown out and this has fostered the attitude on the street that there is no need to behave because the police have been left impotent.

    Respect, not Love, the foundation of civilization has been thrown out the window and replaced with political correctness and we have established that that one faulty thought process is what will kill everyone.

    Many of the people, living on the streets and threatening all who encounter them, mostly all are on drugs and or are mentally ill have multiple arrest interactions with the police, 50, 60 70 to 100 plus. And the police are not allowed by the city management, the Liberals / Leftist policy to do their job.

    The police live in fear of losing their jobs and their pensions and so they do as they are directed and their direction is the result of very bad management and political correctness.

  • wayne

    If one really, really, (really) wants to disrupt and bankrupt “organized” crime— legalize all drugs, yesterday.
    (Caveat– this presupposes the welfare-state is drastically reduced in scope. I don’t want to pay people to use drugs, nor do I want to house them while they are buzzed. Nor am I going to pay taxes to give them free drugs.)
    >Just leave them alone. Not going to “round them up,” or impose my will upon them.
    One either believes in Federalism, or one doesn’t.
    (Just sayin’)
    (and what exactly do we mean by “on drugs?”)
    If I recall correctly– were on the 6th iteration of the War on Drugs.
    This time around— nobody gets any pain-killers anymore. Obama drugged up the “poor” for 8 years, and now we’re cutting them all off (what could possibly go wrong?!)– Medicaid paid for 400 million dosage units of hydrocodone over the course of the previous administration.

  • Cotour

    All of that aside, there must be a reasonable line drawn that at some level respects the rights of the many, the tax payers who demand to live their lives unmolested by the government or the drug addled, and the mentally ill and the welfare culture of dependency. This line is where the Left gets it all wrong and they flip the logic of the situation to only the rights of the “Oppressed”. Their line has been perverted by them and their disease.

    A line, not one or the other, but a reasonable line.

    Many who live on the street in this condition actually need to be arrested and dried out, at least that gives them some chance at redemption. Other than that line and where it is drawn live your life as you see fit, whether it be on the street, in jail or behind a pretty fence with a hasp, and a locked door if it pleases you.

    Its all about reasonable choices being made and being willing to pay the price for those decisions and people respecting those decisions. But the one should never be able to overtake the other and create a slave nation to serve those who choose poorly. That is just unreasonable and unacceptable.

  • Gene Shipp: I just tried to reply to your email to me, and got a rejection as follows:

    “Client host rejected: The sender’s mail server is blocked by this recipient.”

    Do you not wish to receive emails from me?

  • Cotour

    IF YOU CAME TO AMERICA FROM ANOTHER PLANET IN 2019

    If you were to listen to most all of the Democrat candidates and you were from another planet you might come to a reasonable conclusion that they were all running for the president of South America and Mexico.

    And then you have the likes of someone like Bill DiBlasio, the worst mayor in New York City history, who in the excitement of campaigning naturally goes to his foundation, true and clear Marxism. At a rally he quotes Che Guevara. DeBlasio says he misspoke and apologizes for YOU misinterpreting or him not understanding where the quote came from. But lets remember that he and his wife as good Marxists ILLEGALLY spent their honeymoon in Havana, Cuba. (He knew exactly what he was saying the problem was that he said it to people from Cuba who also knew the truth of his deceit and true philosophy).

    https://youtu.be/aGWG7VlpDzo ; Don’t know who Che is? Look him up, educate yourself on the subject. A true believer, just like DeBlasio.

    All of these Democrat candidates are pandering to the extreme Left and through their philosophy intend to turn America into a place where they get to say how much wealth they will determine be confiscated from you the true American citizen and who it will be redistributed to in order to establish a perpetual Democrat political power model. And that really is what this is all now about. And what do they propose in their anti American drive for perpetual power?

    16 year olds to vote, eliminate the electoral college, open borders, no borders, decriminalizing illegally entering the United States, “Free” healthcare for illegal’s, guaranteed basic monthly income for all Americans, post birth abortions, reparations for slaves, reparations for gays, erasing college debt, and the list goes on. And you get to pay for it all as you lose more and more of your freedoms and your wealth and your private property. They apparently know much better than you what should be done with all of it.

    And if you consider yourself a Democrat and an American that believes in our unique Constitution and freedom, and the individual, and private property, how can you rationally support any of them? Because they are not Trump? Really?

    Democrats, wake up and smell the coffee, the Marxists are knocking on your door, do you dare open it and let them in? I think not. Their clear desperate Anti American insanity is your wake up call America.

  • Cotour: Nicely put. This is something you should distribute to all your leftist friends in New York. They won’t listen, but at least you will have done the right thing.

  • Andi

    I just couldn’t help shaking my head when they all said they would decriminalize illegal entry to the country.

  • Cotour

    This is my email today and it was sent to my friends who in my opinion are confused and need some rational and informed guidance. Some get it, and some don’t.

    I have a funny example: The other day a friend came in and of course we get into it. He is half my age, is a bit of a metro sexual, intelligent, “educated” (Traditionally educate and only to a degree), a very nice young man. Always wants my take on things. I confront him with his own “facts” and insist that he think.

    His comment to me was: “Why didn’t Trump take out the Iranians the other day for shooting down that drone?” (Remember, he considers himself a Millennial / Liberal Democrat)

    My reply; “Oh, your a big war monger now? You wanted him to order a strike at the cost of potentially 150 people?

    His reply: “Yes!”.

    Then I reminded him of a very inconvenient fact: “Have you forgotten that you work for the UNITED NATIONS !?”

    His reply: Damn! I thought you would have forgotten about that”.

    Many of them are so infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome that they are unable to clearly see or understand much of anything related to politics.

  • wayne

    Dr. Jordan Peterson:
    ” Embrace your shadow because its strength can guarantee peace”
    https://youtu.be/tskL4Ds66Yk
    3:45

    “Si vis pacem, para bellum.”
    If you want peace, prepare for war.

  • Cotour

    AOC: ILLEGALS ARE DRINKING OUT OF THE TOILET!

    The illegals apparently are drinking out of the “toilet” in the detention centers on the border.

    I guess technically the detainees are at least drinking very near to the toilet.

    Obviously no one is really drinking FROM the toilet.

    Just another fraud perpetrated by the Leftist / Marxist Democrat party in their desperation to become relevant as they continue their death spiral. The American people are absorbing all of this and will mete out their judgement soon.

    It ain’t going to be pretty.

    http://bp2.blogger.com/_Xf53yAVwNuc/SGk29zgIo_I/AAAAAAAAAd4/pTPa6sXSdrY/s400/neo+metro+toilet+sink+combo+2.jpg

  • wayne

    These alleged people, had never seen a toilet, before they broke into the United States.

  • Cotour

    An interesting development:

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/03/melinda-katz-stunningly-takes-lead-over-tiffany-caban-in-primary-for-queens-da/

    Katz takes lead over Caban in the Queens District Attorney race……………………….by 20 votes. Maybe Seattle will not visit NYC? For now anyway?

  • Cotour: This story will be posted on the main page. Thank you.

    This story is in itself most amusing. I am reminded of Minnesota and the recount of paper ballots that the Democrat conveniently found in the trunk of a car that gave Al Franken his victory over Norm Coleman.

  • Cotour

    Follow up: Capitalism / The Minimum Wage / A “Progressive” Billionaire / Seattle

    I happened to come upon this TED Talk from 2014 by self proclaimed “Plutocrat” Billionaire, Nick Hanaur.

    https://youtu.be/q2gO4DKVpa8 20 min.

    He enthusiastically proposes Progressive policies like increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour. In other words he proposes that government interfere with the market and set a higher than called for minimum wage. He proposes a “New” kind of rethunk capitalism. I guess the rules of operation in the old model in his opinion is no longer in effect in our modern economy. One problem.

    Mr. Hanaur uses Seattle as a shining example of how a local government inserts itself into the market and creates their own metric for what a minimum wage should be. And of course from this issues forth wealth and prosperity for the middle class and the homeless. The problem? Mr. Hanaur, a self proclaimed and well meaning “Plutocrat” / Billionaire who in 2014 used in his example for this “New” capitalism model Seattle and its “progressive” $15 minimum wage has cost many people on the fringe their jobs. Exactly the opposite as intended.

    And as you will remember I happened to use the documentary “Seattle is dying” (2019, just five short years from 2014) as a model for what NOT to do in a local economy. If you remember Seattle and its progressive government and its socialist “Compassion” has flipped the script on the entire population of Seattle and have made primary the concerns of the drug addled and homeless and have forgotten about the tax payers that pay FOR EVERYTHING. They have created a “Progressive” lawless city that solely exist to serve these street urchins, homeless and Illegal immigrants. In other words they have crafted a system that needs them to administer this insanity, they have created the reason for themselves and their well paid jobs to exist.

    Mr. Hanaur, BILLIONAIRE, seems have guilt related to his wealth. In the right place at the right time with the right idea and or capital and the stones to make a decision and he is a billionaire. What did he not learn? The best thing he and his fellow Plutocrats could do is to invest their wealth in order that it be able to be used by others to do exactly what he did. Not to further empower government and create a model that DEMANDS the further confiscation of that wealth and the growing of government. What does this guy not understand in his apparent guilt?

    Mr. Hanuar, what have you learned? What might the next TED Talk that you execute be called given som time and some real world feed back?

    TED Talk: “Nick Hanaur and the power of Capitalism and how the progressive political model destroys cities and people”?

    Mr. Hanaur I am certain truly means well burdened with his apparent massive guilt, but his well meaning and his misunderstanding of the economics model that has made him a Billionaire and his previous Ted Talk needs to be rectified.

  • Cotour

    Another wealthy genius “rethinking Capitalism”.

    https://youtu.be/dvJSK4viVMs

    His first mistake is that he equates a corporate structure, a corporate entity with a moralistic “Just” model. Their is no justice in a concept, a corporation or piece of paper unless you structure it in that manner.

    If you want to create a corporation that enriches their workers over and above what they are paid with profits, then just create a corporate model that does just that and see if anyone will risk their capital on that model. If you want to invest your billions in that model, then invest it and test your theory. If not, forget about it.

    If you want greater corporate “Justice” then create that corporate model, don’t monkey with the laws that dictate our American success and attempt to drastically replace them with some imagined conglomeration of “Progressive’ justice models that are sure losers.

    What is the matter with these grown and very, by their own testimony, highly experienced very wealthy as a result of capitalism people? They seem to not have learned much.

  • wayne

    Cotour–
    Plenty of whacky people, who happen to have a lot of money. The thing with money–having a lot of it doesn’t make one any smarter, ya know?! And as you note–they get real dangerous, real fast, when they want to impose their personality disorders onto the rest of us, just because they can.

    Elmer J Fudd, Millionaire
    https://youtu.be/j7dCTwlAI8Y

  • Cotour

    This is a cut from Mr. Hanaurs website.

    “Among his most notable essays, Hanauer published “The Capitalist’s Case for a $15 Minimum Wage” in Bloomberg Business Week in 2013. Early in 2014, he and Oxford’s Eric Beinhocker published “Capitalism, Redefined” in Democracy Journal. In the summer of 2014, Hanauer published “The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats” in Politico, which became among the most-shared essays in the publication’s history. Last year he published “Democrats Must Reclaim the Center … by Moving Hard Left” in Politico Magazine.”

    Again, he has lots of money, and he don’t get it. He is busy “redefining” Capitalism.

    “Democrats Must Reclaim the Center … by Moving Hard Left” in Politico Magazine.”

    Mr. Hanaur is in fact a Marxist I suppose? He sounds more like a Globalist attempting to reshape the world with a fraudulent theory of economics. Really no different than any pandering knucklehead running in the Democrat party for president (And many in the Republican party)

    “At the same time, Hanauer, a self-described “proud and unapologetic capitalist,” has become a leading critic of modern economic policy. He is now one of the world’s most provocative thinkers about our society’s growing inequality, the dire consequences that increasing inequality creates for our democracies, and how to fix the system. ”

    Just invest your money Mr. Hanaur, the rest will take care of itself. Incentive, disincentive, cause and effect. Why not fight to lessen the size government and put a limit on the ability of government to spend the people’s confiscated tax money with abandon, Mr. Hanaur? No, your conclusion is to flip things around and come to the conclusion that more of what has created this inequity in our society, big government, that you identify rather than less government is the solution. Does not compute.

    Rich, well spoken and apparently ignorant of what actually causes the problems that he is so concerned about. Does no one in his orbit have the stones to tell Mr. Hanaur that he is incorrect? So I must assume that he is actually intending something other than what he proposes. If anyone here knows Mr. Hanaur please forward my comments to him. I would love to hash things out with him right here on BTB.

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