The Justice Dept Inspector General report on FBI corruption
The Justice Dept Inspector General report on FBI corruption is now available [pdf].
The report is 568 pages long. I guarantee that almost every news report you read about it today will be based not on a careful reading of the entire report, but on a reading of its executive summary plus some quick dives into relevant but juicy segments within.
Nonetheless, this paragraph in the executive report I think is significant:
During the course of the review, the OIG [Office of the Inspector General] discovered text messages and instant messages between some FBI employees on the [FBI] investigation team, conducted using FBI mobile devices and computers, that expressed statements of hostility toward then candidate Donald Trump and statements of support for then candidate Clinton.
The quote that is making the biggest headlines so far is Peter Strzok’s statement, in response to Lisa Page’s text that Trump might win, that “No, no he’s not, we’ll stop it.”
However, I did a quick scan of chapter twelve of the report, which is focused on all the texts by FBI officials, and find that this is merely one very minor example of a deeply partisan FBI that was closely aligned with the Democratic Party. Not only were Strzok and Page passionately willing to use the FBI’s powers overturn a legal election because they didn’t like the winning candidate, a Republican, there were other agents that felt the same way.
My own read of the executive summary shows that most of the report covers ground that has already been revealed in past news reports. The report does reveal that former FBI director James Comey was generally incompetent, not partisan. He had a very hot potato in his hands (clearly illegal acts by presidential candidate Hillary Clinton), and didn’t know how to handle the situation. He tried to abstain, then found this was a bad idea. In the end, he only made things worse for everyone, including himself. Moreover, his waffling and inability to demand a straightforward and honest investigation allowed partisan subordinates like Strzok, Page, and others to misuse the FBI and its powers to play politics and corrupt the agency’s investigations.
And without doubt the FBI did misuse its powers and investigative position. This report puts a stain on everything it does, now and into the future. And the bottom line remains the same: The culture in the Washington bureaucracy, and in the FBI, is blindly partisan, and willing to do illegal acts to help the Democratic Party. Trump had better start cleaning house soon, or else this modern praetorian guard will overthrown our democracy.
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The Justice Dept Inspector General report on FBI corruption is now available [pdf].
The report is 568 pages long. I guarantee that almost every news report you read about it today will be based not on a careful reading of the entire report, but on a reading of its executive summary plus some quick dives into relevant but juicy segments within.
Nonetheless, this paragraph in the executive report I think is significant:
During the course of the review, the OIG [Office of the Inspector General] discovered text messages and instant messages between some FBI employees on the [FBI] investigation team, conducted using FBI mobile devices and computers, that expressed statements of hostility toward then candidate Donald Trump and statements of support for then candidate Clinton.
The quote that is making the biggest headlines so far is Peter Strzok’s statement, in response to Lisa Page’s text that Trump might win, that “No, no he’s not, we’ll stop it.”
However, I did a quick scan of chapter twelve of the report, which is focused on all the texts by FBI officials, and find that this is merely one very minor example of a deeply partisan FBI that was closely aligned with the Democratic Party. Not only were Strzok and Page passionately willing to use the FBI’s powers overturn a legal election because they didn’t like the winning candidate, a Republican, there were other agents that felt the same way.
My own read of the executive summary shows that most of the report covers ground that has already been revealed in past news reports. The report does reveal that former FBI director James Comey was generally incompetent, not partisan. He had a very hot potato in his hands (clearly illegal acts by presidential candidate Hillary Clinton), and didn’t know how to handle the situation. He tried to abstain, then found this was a bad idea. In the end, he only made things worse for everyone, including himself. Moreover, his waffling and inability to demand a straightforward and honest investigation allowed partisan subordinates like Strzok, Page, and others to misuse the FBI and its powers to play politics and corrupt the agency’s investigations.
And without doubt the FBI did misuse its powers and investigative position. This report puts a stain on everything it does, now and into the future. And the bottom line remains the same: The culture in the Washington bureaucracy, and in the FBI, is blindly partisan, and willing to do illegal acts to help the Democratic Party. Trump had better start cleaning house soon, or else this modern praetorian guard will overthrown our democracy.
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The print edition can be purchased at Amazon. from any other book seller, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
2 yrs now, tony weiner is the only name behind bars. AG Sessions does a better job of posing as Henry Gibson, than HG ever did. remember laff in ? ” He says I’m sure RR was professional and polite when he threatened the investigation team with subpoenas. Am I the only one who views AG sessions as a blackmailed whoore? I want name brand meat behind bars , NOW!!!!!!!!!
I used to think a million man armed veterans force besieging DC would be a start, but with the implementation of the 5G N/W, without a defense, that may not be an option. At least to attempted missile launches against BLUE METAL failed..
Happy Birthday Mr. President!
First, there is this report which is an internally generated investigators report which is not a criminal investigation and it is the beginning which will lead to the U.S. prosecutor Huber investigation, and then the Arkansas FBI investigation of the Clinton Foundation. Both of these other two investigations are legal investigations which can result in criminal charges.
Even if this issue was dropped right here and now with this carefully groomed report which is very damaging to the DOJ and the FBI leadership, the other two investigations are still underway. And ultimately these issue will be settled by design at the ballot box.
Remember the “blue wave”, well wave good by to it. The blue wave is more likely to be a blood red swirl in the political surf.
Cotour,
re; “Remember the “blue wave”, well wave good by to it. The blue wave is more likely to be a blood red swirl in the political surf.”
From your lips to God’s ear…a sad part of this is. the USA needs a genuine 2 party system , now more than ever. The old Nazi party seems to have had better political acumen than the present day Democrats demonstrate. It totally makes sense they are flat broke , if one were rich with cash , would you “donate’ cash , to any Democratic politician , especially California.? They seem to act deliberately insane. Is this because they think it will keep the out of jail?
No, they are Liberals / leftists they are by definition not sane and irrational. Everything that they do is based in slight of hand and lies, it has to be.
You want real differences in political party’s?
Don’t look now but the Trump party is well under way and gaining in momentum. For too long the republicans and democrats have been indistinguishable from each other, Trump is the paradigm change in politics that we all have been searching for.
The Democrats / Liberals are soo confused by the rejection by the American voters that they have no counter to it and are floundering. This IMO will continue if Trump continues on this locomotive like Americacentric track. What we are witnessing is the slow motion death of the Democrat party, and they did it to themselves because they reject the center Left where the people of America live and have instead been won over by the extremist Leftist ideologues among them. Plain and simple.
The democrats ONLY cure? Reject their the leftists among them and drag themselves back to the reasonable middle left where reasonable Americans live. If not they are going away for a long time, and I say thats a good thing.
Listening now to the FBI director Wray. (I guess he is doing the best he can do with what he has to work with, a big horse crap pie)
Its similar to listening to Howard Shultz of Starbucks. Wray states that “There was no political agenda that was driving the FBI leadership i9n the Clinton email and Trump election”. Wray will solve the problems by having all the agents and managers watch videos about how they should act, just like Shultz.
The agents within the FBI all understand what went on here and this is not the end but it is a beginning.
Cotour: If the only action taken is for the FBI management to make everyone take sensitivity training, then “IT” is never coming, and we are very very very doomed.
That is what Wray sounds like. This is far from over, it really has just begun with the release of this report. Wray and the media are making the best out of this horse crap pie as he and they can. Every rational and conscious person understands what went on within the FBI and the DOJ.
First the employees will be disgraced and fall, then the political appointees and then we will all be very disappointed if there are no politically empowered persons at some level disciplined for their treachery. And if by chance nothing of real substance shows up then the people will have their say at the polls and their commentary is really the ultimate price to pay in this game of thrones.
“IT” still approaches.
Why is Wray full of crap and making the best kind of lemonade out of what he has to work with?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5842335/Inspector-generals-bombshell-report-Clinton-email-case-released-today.html
Every rational American knows what went on.
(PS: Thanks for getting rid of that Capcha security element)
Cotour, I think you are a little too optimistic, the republicans will be lucky to maintain what they have squandered, midterms usually see a change of party control opposite the presidents party, just maybe this time it dosent happen, I agree the dems don’t have a logical platform to stand on right now, but it’s never been about logic for them any way.
IMO the trend appears to favor my interpretation. Too optimistic? Thats the trend as I see it.
Even if the Republicans maintain their position that would be fine, but I just do not see this as a normal mid term election cycle. Trump is that different and more importantly the people of America are sick and tired of this BS.
I am certain that 95 of the FBI field agents know that this is mostly spin and its just for the moment.
The report does reveal that former FBI director James Comey was generally incompetent, not partisan.
This requires the suspension of disbelief.
Comey didn’t know Huma and Wiener, two of the most famous people in DC/NYC, were married? Yeah right…
One important point: Horowitz wrote the body of the report, but the executive summary and conclusions were written by bureaucrats in the DOJ and FBI.
Also, the report is meant to find facts, not to give recommendations. Federal prosecutor Huber is running a parallel investigation, and will be in charge of prosecution.
I look forward to reading the body of the document, rather than the spin put into the executive summary.
By far the most detailed, solid analysis of these scandals is provided by a poster(s) named Sundance at https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ which I can’t recommend highly enough.
One might ask: Why has Strzock not been fired?
One answer might be because he is a cooperating witness and has agreed to provide testimony to Mr. Huber for clemency. (?) And that could be so for many of these participants in treachery and treason.
The MSM will down play all of this characterizing it as much ado about nothing, we all know better. Once again, this is a beginning and not an end.
There is a beginning, a middle and an end to everything.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/31874/justice-department-ig-recommends-investigation-5-james-barrett
This is only the beginning. And this is all a political drama of push and pull strategies and counter strategies. What did the Democrats do to attempt to counter possibly the biggest internal governmental coupe’s against a political candidate and sitting American president? The New York State Attorney Generals office files civil charges against the Trump family and their own fully funded by them Foundation.
(And its funny that the NYS authorities have never been able to detect any unusual goings on in the Clinton Foundation which is a NYS entity. And that story will soon be told of their willful blindness when the FBI investigation of the Clinton Foundation that is ongoing in Arkansas comes to the surface in the near future. The Clinton Foundation to my understanding was originally formed to raise money for the Clinton presidential library, period.
Think about that for a few minutes as you remember that the Russians themselves have poured $145 million into the Foundation and a $500 thousand dollar “speaking fee” to Bill Clinton who met with Putin before he spoke…………..in MOSCOW while Hillary was the Secretary Of State and had the ultimate say over the deal going through because everyone involved understood that she would be the next president of the United States. And who would dare stand in the way of the next president of the United States even if it involved our national security? No One. And that is a whole nother story here, no one would dare point out the security issues and stop the deal because it was Hillary in the middle of it. Many guilty here of surrendering their fiduciary responsibilities IMO)
A Weak and desperate move by a governor and Attorney General who had to do something to try to distract the public from the real and consequential news of the day.
Cotour–
yes, the NY AG is the responsible agency for policing non-profit’s within the State. NY has some very strict laws on charities & foundations. If you or I ran a Foundation in the State, and did a fraction of what the Clinton crime syndicate has already done, we’d both be in Sing Sing.
>>That would have been the creepy Schneiderman Guy.
Unless and until a whole bunch of these people are rendered off-shore and disappeared with absolute prejudice, nothing is ever going to happen.
To my point about the people meting out their form of political justice:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/gop-wants-trump-in-2020-more-popular-than-obama-jfk-reagan
Because the people of America see what they see even though the talking heads and the leadership within governance are telling them with a straight face the exact opposite. They are doing what they naturally do and can do nothing else, and the people will judge them all and there will be a cost commensurate with the offence. In other words the media will continue on its downward trajectory into irrelevance and the Democrats will not see power again for probably the next 20 years.
And that in the end is the best and most appropriate justice of all.
To my point about interviewing and fearing the wrath of the “Next president of the United States”:
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/fbi-agent-who-questioned-hillary-email-probe-called-her-president-4
They do not understand just how deep they are digging their political graves.
Robert,
At least the headline that you linked laughs at the IG report’s suggestion that there was no ‘political bias’ in the Hillary Clinton email probe. The American press may be biased, but the rest of the world sees the reality for what it is.
The bias in the FBI and the DoJ and the intent to act on that bias are documented in the text messages which describe a Trump presidency as a terrifying thought and the reply that says that they will stop it from happening. If the IG does not realize that this is bias against Trump then I don’t know what he would think is.
Edward: Mollie Hemingway explains the IG’s position here:
I have noticed an increasing number of reports that now are digging into the report, and finding that the executive summary seriously softpedaled the findings of the report.
Nonetheless, unless Trump actually starts firing people, nothing will be accomplished. And now is the time to do it, when the news is hot and he has good justification visible and available for everyone to see. If he waits another week he will lose the chance.
This is where I think Trump is failing, and failing in the most serious way. He has done a lot of good that I hadn’t expected (court appointments, slashing the bureaucracy in EPA, shutting down overregulation, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, North Korea, etc), but if he does not move now to “drain the swamp” (his words), he will lose the war.
Trump is being more effective by just allowing it all to sit out there in the public square rotting for all to see. If there were to be what we can all agree upon, justifiable firings by the president himself, then that could be used in a more effective way by the other side, and why is this important? Because as far as the coming midterm elections Trump and the Republican party have increasing momentum.
So IMO to begin firings, especially by the president, is not the thing to do. Better to let it all just sit out there festering and people doing their own internal judging while the internal government agencies are seen to oppose the president who they now have growing compassion for. And then there will be the moment where the people express themselves to right the wrongs that they have grown to despise. The public are very concerned with justice and they will deliver it themselves when those in power positions refuse.
Justice here will be a mixed bag and will take a bit of time, “IT” continues its approach, lets not rush it and screw it up.
To my point:
https://youtu.be/HCktBOaoI_k
Its just going to go on and on and Trump plays it like a master, turning over and over the rotting news compost when ever he needs it to reach into the minds of his followers and the others who both are becoming more and more outraged at the injustice.
The pedestrian realm is justice oriented and this all leads to the midterm elections.
Listen to Joe Degenova, he makes the parallel between Chris Wray and Howard Schultz of Starbucks, too funny, I made that connection the other day.
https://youtu.be/29ZoZmP5lXE
That is exactly what Wray sounded like, total unconscious proforma happy talk BS. Yeah, watch some videos, that will fix the problems.
Robert,
You wrote: “Mollie Hemingway explains the IG’s position”
Last night I heard someone describe an IG as a “department of excuses.” That certainly seems to describe this IG report.
“unless Trump actually starts firing people, nothing will be accomplished. And now is the time to do it, when the news is hot and he has good justification visible and available for everyone to see. If he waits another week he will lose the chance.”
I guess we will know within a week whether the swamp will get any drainage.
The Inspector Generals report is an internal report generated by and for the Political realm, when you apply Pedestrian realm expectations on Political realm situations you are bound to be disappointed.
When you have the I.G., just like St. Comey who could not find any “Intent” behind anything that Hillary and her crew did, produce 568 pages of an investigation and at the end the conclusion by the I.G. is “But we can find no politically motivations behind the actions of the FBI” which completely contradicts the information in his own report that is what I call convenient logic. And convenient logic is what it is and the people of America who are watching this all play out see it for what it is, empowered politicians and the government protecting itself and its employees. “How dare you question the FBI!”. Yeah, how dare we, get real.
There are however other elements to this political drama that are more Pedestrian realm centric related to law enforcement and of course the ultimate price to pay, and that is at the ballot box.
COMING “IT” IS, although it may take several different forms on the scales of justice as we wade through it all. It in a way is a beautiful mess, a beautiful mess that will spit out the other end some form of justice, what ever that will end up being. If this beautiful mess was not going on and we all knew that it was being totally ignored then we would have something much more ominous to be worried about.
Cotour wrote,
“When you have the I.G., just like St. Comey who could not find any ‘Intent’ behind anything that Hillary and her crew did, produce 568 pages of an investigation and at the end the conclusion by the I.G. is ‘But we can find no politically motivations behind the actions of the FBI’ which completely contradicts the information in his own report that is what I call convenient logic.”
It’s believed that the I.G. wrote the body of the report, and other(s) (Rosenstein is a suspect) wrote the Executive Summary and Conclusions. The purpose of the IG is to report the facts, and there are plenty of facts in the report. Once the other reports come out, the onus will be on Sessions, Huber, et al to prosecute.
The reports (this is just the first major one) are just the foundation; the real action happens later.
There are other elements as well, including Mueller’s report, the results of the midterm elections, attempts at impeachment, whether Admiral Rogers furnishes missing emails, etc.
My guess is that McCabe and Strzok serve some time behind bars (possibly reduced because of testimony; Strzok is still employed by the FBI, which suggests that he’s talking). I’m hoping that people higher up the food chain (Comey, Clapper, Brennan, et al, and even Loretta Lynch, both Clintons, Obama, and Valerie Jarrett) also receive justice.
But more importantly, I hope that either the FBI is abolished and their duties transferred to, for example, the US Marshall Service and the ATF, or there are serious reforms, such as a requirement to capture audio and video of every FBI interview.
The more I see of the details in the report, the more disgusted I am. My hope is that once the others dominoes fall, proper action is taken on the facts buried in the report.
If this whole mess is properly handled, I’d be surprised if the major action were done within 2 years from now.
Garry,
We are walking in lock step.
And IMO one of the first things that must happen? R.Rosenstein is fired or impeached by the Congress and shown the door. He now heads a branch of government not accountable to anyone, and apparently we work for him?
“How dare you question the FBI!”. Yeah, how dare we.
KNOW THE GAME, PLAY THE GAME, WIN THE GAME.
Jordan Peterson –
“Rules of the Game….”
(excerpt)
https://youtu.be/xC9zUdOj-mM
6:22
This is a short but instructive interview between John Katsimitidies and Dick Morris
https://youtu.be/9tJt2XUYLK8 9min.
I agree with Morris about where the I.G. report is going and he brings a few interesting detail tid bits about the Chinese and N. Koreans out that I was not aware of related to banking and bank accounts and what may have been a motivator.
Strzok wants to voluntarily testify in front of Congress, no immunity necessary. He feels he has been mis characterized and has been in fact “caricatured” in the media.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/392700-fbi-agent-who-sent-anti-trump-texts-offers-to-testify-on-capitol
“Goelman elaborated on Strzok’s reasoning for testifying on Sunday in an interview with The Washington Post, saying the agent “wants the chance to clear his name and tell his story.”
“He thinks that his position, character, and actions have all been misrepresented and caricatured, and he wants an opportunity to remedy that,” Goelman said. ”
Mr. Strzok and his lawyer I assume are willing to enlighten everyone in America in regards to how we have all confused ourselves related to his personal communications between him and his girl friend regarding president Trump and his interviewing of Hillary and his removal from the Mueller investigation and what he really meant.
I am certain they will explain how its really us and not him or them. Im sure its just one big misuderstanding, no harm no foul. He may call a do over.
Like I have pointed out previously, the I.G. report is a beginning and not and end, should be very entertaining.
After the devastating rebuke that the I.G. Horowitz report delivered REGARDING THE ACTIONS OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AGAINST A CANDIDATE AND PRESIDENT (Yes, I am yelling here for a reason) this opinionator for the Hill has come to a conclusion. “The Right wing of the Republican party must reform!”.
(I hate to tell all of you opinionators out there who agree with this strategic political blathering, its the Right wing of the Republican party that is in the process of saving this country from the Leftist, New World Order likes of Obama, Hillary, Soros and George Bush sr.. Read the report and tell me who needs to reform what. Seriously, the Republican party is in general a bunch of directionless morons until properly lead, but the I.G. report has little to say about what the right wing of the Republican party has or has not done related to the FBI and DOJ and the president conspiring against their opponent.)
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/392714-after-inspector-general-report-republicans-must-reform-themselves
Yeah, thats what the I.G.’d report specifically and overwhelmingly points to, the Republican party. (Is it me?)
The newest version of this counter intuitive but emotional think is now the children of the people who have illegally come to the United States, probably set up and encouraged by the Democrats or some operatives of their party at some level in order to create a wedge issue against Trump and America in general. And these “Immigrants” have chosen to bring their children with them. Laura Bush accuses Trump of being “Immoral”, I suppose as a counter to the comment from Milania on the subject who showed compassion for the children but insists on lawful entry into the U.S.. One First Lady against the other First Lady. OOOOOH.)
Attention Mrs. Bush, this is not about being moral or immoral, this is about making real changes to how our government operates and while Trump may be controversially for the short term using these children as a lever against the very destructive Liberal, now Leftist and now desperate and dying Democrat party in order to actually change their harmful laws and actions of the past I.E. open borders and the fulfillment of the New World Order your father in law, G.Bush sr. so fondly and purposefully set into motion.
(And should any Bush really be making any comments about the morality of any presidents policies and actions? Really? IMO most all Bush’s might well be banned from politics as a general rule based on morality. Strategy yes, morality no.)
So to summarize, these children who have been brought to our door step and have been “ripped” from their parents arms, as Gerold Nadler of NY so emotionally opined the other day on national TV appear to me to be in very good shape and appear to be being taken care of fairly well. And while not ideal for them we must all realize that in the short term they are being utilized as political pawns on both sides, each for their own political purposes. The Republican’s in order that they are able to force the Democrats to properly structure our immigration law to protect our country and citizens, and the Democrats to create some issue with which to gain some political capital in the eyes of the public against Trump. Since because of their own un and even anti American policy to flood the borders with illegals to in the long term solidify their voting base with those illegals who raise their family’s in America thereby creating their voting base (That’s the theory anyway, and its effective). Remember who first used “The Children” in our modern politics as the ultimate political weapon? Yes, thats correct, it was, Bill, Monica made me do it, Clinton. That is how simple this all is.
I say stay focused president Trump and do not falter on this or any other issue that you know to be correct for our country, there in lies your reelection and the country’s salvation and the next 100 years of American relevance on the planet.
The legacy of the Left: “Compassion”, political correctness, these are the things that threaten us all, everyone dies if this philosophy is not identified and rejected with extreme prejudice. The Liberal Democrat is a mildly tolerable yet delusional American, the Leftists that now lead the Democrat party threaten all of our freedom and lives.
https://youtu.be/_WyEEdPaQqs
And this is exactly what the Democrats want to occur right here in America, anything in the pursuit or the retention of power, anything. And if Hillary were to have won the 2016 presidential election this is exactly what would have proceeded to happen to America.
No I.G. report, no firing of Mr. Comey or McCabe, and Strzok, Page, Ohr and on and on right in the places where they could do the most harm to the country and the Constitution. Loretta Lynch is the Attorney General or was it Supreme Court Justice (?), Bill Clinton is maybe the Ambassador to Russia (?), the Communist Brennan still heads the CIA, you know I could go on and on.
And think about this, appreciate it. All because of one man being able to somehow become president disrupted and stopped much of it. I find that both inspirational and terrifying at the same time.
Once again, appreciate that video and the one person element nature of our current history.
I was pointed to these two opinions about the IG report:
The first compares the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign to a suspected future bank robbery. Strangely, the author said that the bank under surveillance was robbed, but in reality the other bank (candidate) was the one that was robbed.
http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/391566-the-fbis-fractured-fairytale
The second essay compares the behavior of those scrutinized by the OIG’s investigation to the behavior and investigation of high school teachers getting arrested for having sexual relations with underage students.
https://spectator.org/the-real-problem-with-the-oig-report/
THE BEGINNING OF THE BEGINNING AND NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE END
Listening today to the opening comments and questioning by both Republicans and Democrats in the I.G. Horowitz questioning related to his report what jumps out right in your face is that the two sides have firmly dug into their positions. The Republicans clearly read the report and see the blatant bias displayed by the leadership and leading FBI investigators that 1. Had extreme and visceral shared negative opinions about candidate Donald J. Trump and president Donald J. Trump. And 2. The FBI went out of their way to not find Hillary Clinton guilty of having a compromised email server that illegally held top secret communications.
And the Democrats have attached themselves to I.G. Horowitz’s comments that the charging PROSECUTORS in the DOJ did not display any bias in their choice not to charge Mrs. Clinton. Two things, DOJ prosecutors and FBI investigators.
Now this is all very highly lawyered head butting but what the questioning and the report clearly reveals is that the I.G. made his determination about bias related to charging or not charging Mrs. Clinton by the prosecutors of the DOJ and not about anyone in the FBI who was clearly biased and doing the communicating and conspiring. Mr. Horowtiz did however have a lot to say about the bias and conspiratorial conversations of investigators in the FBI, who are not the prosecutors but make recommendations to charge or not charge. Its a fine lawyerly line.
By his own testimony, Mr. Horowitz sees all this as “Extremely highly troubling behavior” by the FBI players which he has never seen before in his career related to prejudging and coming to a conclusion about a case even before any investigations had even begun. Pre judging and making decisions as such which is the very definition of bias in action.
As these hearings continue we will all realized that this is truly the beginning of the beginning and not the beginning of the end.
related…..
“What is the status of the FBI investigation of the Clinton Foundation?”
JBS segment
https://audioboom.com/posts/6901778-what-is-the-status-of-the-fbi-investigation-of-the-clinton-foundation-charlesortel
It will be the Weiner computer that will bring it all together.
Anthony or Huma does not have any immunity given by the FBI / DOJ because it is an entirely different investigation separate and apart from Hillary and the election of 2016. Maybe someone in NYC has spoken to people who know and there might appear to be some very disturbing files over and above the 300K + (?) Secretary Of State emails found on Weiners personal computer. Someone might just be wondering whether it can or will be released because the FBI is controlling / sitting on it all.
Remember, there are “Many, many more investigations underway which I can not comment on”, M. Horowitz. And this Weiner computer issue will I assume be dealt with by U.S. Prosecutor, Mr. Huber. This is far, far from over. The beginning of the beginning.
In the Alternate Universe, James I-didn’t-know-Huma-was-married-to-Weiner Comey, would already have been rendered off-shore.
Carlos Danger for Mayor
https://youtu.be/i7KGTmG-2Wk
(0:32)
To my previous point:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/fbi-doj-and-hillary-clinton-weiner-problem/
“So . . . what did McCabe, Comey and Strzok do? They sat on it until police officers in New York and FBI agents in New York threatened to expose them.”
Q: Will the DOJ refuse to prosecute both Huma and Anthony Weiner because they have a child? Or will Huma be able to have her son live with her in her new accommodations?
The Weiner personal computer that contains hundreds of thousands of secreted away for what purpose (?) Secretary Of State emails both secure and top secret Plus other “interesting” files is where the rubber meets the road. I wonder if Hillary will just say that she knew nothing about it all? Between what Huma knows about Hillary and her operations has been up to should make for some very tense negotiations.
Many have the potential to fall on both sides and normally you might assume that none of it will be revealed…………but the people know about it. No leaks yet about what actually on it, but there are people who know. I can think of nothing bigger in politics besides something possibly as big as the subject that must not be spoken of. The Weiner personal computer and what it contains is almost too big to comprehend in its implications.
Huma and her entire extended family, are all Muslim Brotherhood.
I will let Bill Still lay some of it out.
https://youtu.be/8oZeVAaa1WU
Our mess is going to be so beautiful and it will once again prove the Founders thinking on the nature of man (And woman) related to the abuse of power. Shine the light so all can see and understand properly.
Dinesh D’Souza on Huma, her whacky mother, the Muslim brotherhood, and Bonny & Clyde….
> august 2016
https://youtu.be/qQsZ_W7jC8Y
4:33
Robert Zimmerman,
You wrote above ( http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/the-justice-dept-inspector-general-report-on-fbi-corruption/#comment-1054423 ): “unless Trump actually starts firing people, nothing will be accomplished. And now is the time to do it, when the news is hot and he has good justification visible and available for everyone to see. If he waits another week he will lose the chance.”
The report has been out for a week, now, and I have not heard of any firings or other actions to drain the swamp.
The news media has pushed us off onto another topic of distraction, so either the chance has been lost or now is the time for Trump to bring us back to the topic of abject corruption in the U.S. government by beginning the draining of the swamp.
Edward: Note my sense of depression, mentioned in my most recent short essay Too much hate, is partly because of this timing. As you note, a week as passed and the leftist media has aggressively found a fake controversy aimed at distracting the public from the partisan pro-Democratic Praty corruption in the FBI and Justice Department, and thus it has become harder to Trump to act to clean those two agencies out.
Both of you guys don’t get it. Trump himself is not going to fire anyone, and if he did that would be a foolish move, bad strategy. (assuming that he could fire anyone).
Your both looking for pedestrian realm justice in a pedestrian realm time frame, wrong, wrong, wrong.
There are a tremendous number of related investigations underway and will be revealed in the proper time frame and not in a pedestrian realm time frame.
And what else has to be figured in to this equation? The midterm elections, all of the distraction and desperate Democrat narrative changes are focused on that one event. If the Republicans retain their level of power the investigations will continue. If the power changes to the Democrats to some degree a lot of it will probably be lost. This is for all the marbles.
IMO the Republican trajectory appears to favor them remaining in power. In addition with all of this juicy information being revealed the public has a need and interest in seeing it play out. No guarantees, but that is the general trajectory.
The best show on TV.
Cotour wrote, “The best show on TV.”
I am not sure that the Jews whom the Nazis rounded up considered their experience an example of good entertainment. Nor am I sure the people whom Robert Mueller has destroyed think the same.
How did we get to the Jews and NAZI’s ???
I am speaking about both of you guys comments and American politics in 2018.
And as far as Mueller goes, no the people that are being reamed by him I am certain do not think it entertaining at all. Did I indicate that in any way, shape or form?
(May I suggest the camping, you really do appear to need it. Remember the video camera, one with a really good zoom)
Cotour wrote, “And as far as Mueller goes, no the people that are being reamed by him I am certain do not think it entertaining at all. Did I indicate that in any way, shape or form?”
Yes. Your words, “The best show on TV.”
And yes, when it comes to Trump, you have repeatedly appeared very naive about him. Your descriptions of him often sound as you see him as our savior. You might not mean it that way, but that is how you sound.
Trump is a unique person in our history, and yes, I do see him as our singular savior. Bulls eye. That is what it comes down to sometimes, one man. Without Trump it is the same old no real leadership, except to the Left no matter who is driving the bus. I have stated plainly in the past, Trump will be considered in the top 10 presidents of all time and possibly the most relevant in the last 150 or so years, since Lincoln. I have said it many times.
You are and have been behind the curve here, there are more things going on than you realize and Trump is definitely at the center of them. I have been pretty much right on about Trump. You and others here are late to the party, so that makes me naive? I understand Trump, you do not.
(You all better be hoping that I am correct. Don’t worry, my confidence is high)
And this IS IMO the best stuff on TV, you can not make this stuff up, this is history played out in real time, no one would believe it. You yourself have agreed with me when I have written the same in the past, you have included my very observations on the subject in one of your essays if you remember.
What about the Jews and the NAZI’s? I have never made a reference to them in the context of this conversation. And what is playing out in Washington is very interesting on many levels, not so much entertaining but certainly most interesting. I take no pleasure, as you insinuate, in others wows. You have characterized my comment as being “entertainment”, my point is that it is very interesting and consequential for us all.
Cotour: What is going on in Washington is not a “show”, for entertainment. It is the exercise of raw power, often against innocent people, for the sake of power. Such abuse of power is the same thing the Nazis did in Germany, and it was met then with the same kind of amused nonchalance. O those silly Nazis! Let’s go watch The Great Dictator again and laugh about them! (I am a historian. I can’t tell you how many memoirs I have read — some to which I had a personal connection — from between the wars by people being oppressed by the Nazis who were met with that kind of amused nonchalance.)
You are not nonchalant about this subject, but to refer to it as “the best show on TV” puts this abuse of power in that category, something to be amused and nonchalant about. I can’t help but be offended by this.