What I learned as a liberal talking head on Fox.
If only more liberals were this open-minded: What I learned as a liberal talking head on Fox.
Read it all. Her essay gives me hope. The key quote:
But if I want that viewpoint – and those who share it – to get more powerful, so that we can fix these systemic problems once and for all, then demonizing people who disagree with me won’t help. In fact, I need to persuade them. And no one will even listen to your argument, let alone agree with you, if they think you don’t like them.
If only the teachers at Brandeis and the fascists that got the CEO of Mozilla fired understood this.
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If only more liberals were this open-minded: What I learned as a liberal talking head on Fox.
Read it all. Her essay gives me hope. The key quote:
But if I want that viewpoint – and those who share it – to get more powerful, so that we can fix these systemic problems once and for all, then demonizing people who disagree with me won’t help. In fact, I need to persuade them. And no one will even listen to your argument, let alone agree with you, if they think you don’t like them.
If only the teachers at Brandeis and the fascists that got the CEO of Mozilla fired understood this.
Readers!
Every February I run a fund-raising drive during my birthday month. This year I celebrate my 72nd birthday, and hope and plan to continue writing and posting on Behind the Black for as long as I am able.
I hope my readers will support this effort. As I did in my November fund-raising drive, I am offering autographed copies of my books for large donations. Donate $250 and you can have a choice of the hardback of either Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8 or Conscious Choice: The origins of slavery in America and why it matters today and for our future in outer space. Donate $200 and you can get an autographed paperback copy of either. IMPORTANT! If you donate enough to get a book, please email me separately to tell me which book you want and the address to mail it to.
Please consider supporting my work here at Behind the Black. My analysis of space, politics, and culture, taken from the perspective of an historian, is almost always on the money and ahead of the game. For example, in 2020 I correctly predicted that the COVID panic was unnecessary, that the virus was apparently simply a variation of the flu, that masks were not simply pointless but if worn incorrectly were a health threat, that the lockdowns were a disaster and did nothing to stop the spread of COVID. Every one of those 2020 conclusions has turned out right.
Your help allows me to do this kind of intelligent analysis. I take no advertising or sponsors, so my reporting isn't influenced by donations by established space or drug companies. Instead, I rely entirely on donations and subscriptions from my readers, which gives me the freedom to write what I think, unencumbered by outside influences.
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I think that Ms. Kohn has it backwards, but it would be nice if the left were to “listen” to her advice.
We, the right, *do* listen, but we then think about it and realize the fallacies of the argument and counter-argue. The counterargument is seen by those on the left as “not listening.” To the left, to “not listen” is to disagree and to “listen” is to agree.
To those on the left, it is not acceptable to disagree with their opinions or conclusions. To disagree is to not have heard what, to them, is correct. That is why it is so difficult to get them to realize even the most basic facts, such as the debate is *not* over, since there are people *still* debating. How can so many people miss such an obvious fact. Since they miss the obvious, the more subtle also eludes them.
It has to elude them, if they want to keep their friends, for if they disagree with the viewpoint or position that the left has chosen to advocate, then they will be shunned, unfriended, vilified, demeaned. and demonized.
From the op/ed: “According to social science research, we’re more likely to be persuaded by people we like and we’re more inclined to like people who, we think, like us.” The leftist thinks that you like them only if you agree with them. Perhaps the research has the problem of including leftists, for whom the conclusion is true, thus the data was skewed toward that conclusion.
The leftist finds out what the current left position is from someone who is their friend (or friendly news organization), then he sticks to that position until he finds out, from a friend, the new position on the matter.
To the leftist, they can only like you if you agree with them.
To the leftist, you either agree with them or they want you to shut up. There are no acceptable counter arguments, and they won’t bother to listen to yours. That is why Mozilla thought that free speech had to be balanced, otherwise someone might have the temerity to disagree with them.
To the leftist, everyone *must* agree (so there is no defending to the death anyone’s right to free speech), and anyone who disagrees must be shunned, unfriended, vilified, demeaned. and demonized. It is how the left keeps everyone in line, otherwise they would disagree on important issues, like the right does, and it would seem like chaos, with everyone on the left unsure of what the acceptable position is. It is yet another form of being taken care of, a leftist philosophy.
To the leftist, the debate *is* over, so shut up. (I would include a link to Klavan’s “Shut Up” video here, but that is already in another post this week. Gee, I could include Klavan’s video in a quarter of your posts, Robert.)
It seems that her conclusion is wrong, because she was with a lot of people who liked her and thought that she liked them. Those nice people who liked her were not convinced, and neither was she. She still “didn’t listen” (her definition) to them and kept her own viewpoints, positions, and thus her friends.
To the rightist, we *want* the leftist to have her say. Not only is it her right, but the exchange of ideas is how we advance knowledge and philosophy.
And it is just plain fun to hear someone say, right in the middle of the debate, that the debate is over.
Her essay may have given hope, but the comments on the essay from her fellow leftist removed that hope 10x over.